What keeps you from committing suicide?

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14 Apr 2009, 9:20 am

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Cowardice and hentai.

Another reason could be because people like you are there to make me laugh :lol:


That too, is another reason for me, but then I like being picked on and treated like a sub-human.


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14 Apr 2009, 9:25 am

deathchibi wrote:
Fickle_Pickle wrote:
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Cowardice and hentai.

Another reason could be because people like you are there to make me laugh :lol:


That too, is another reason for me, but then I like being picked on and treated like a sub-human.


Sub-human?
Crab-people! crab-people! crab-people!


I'm lower than that. Then again this thread has no point.



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14 Apr 2009, 10:00 am

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what a weird question...

DEATH does NOT FIX a PROBLEM.

it ERASES you, and then creates new problems for everyone left, but those cease to exist when it comes to the one who's now dead.

people seem to think DEATH is like some VACATION TO FIJI or something, IT IS NOT.

for "pete's" sake, cant people understand this? ever since the dawn of time, people have offed themselves to solve some problem "dang, my life really sucks. ill fix it by exploding my brain. that's surely gonna make everything better again!"


Sometimes there is no easy fix for a problem. We're on the wrong planet here, sir, and it is a persons right to leave if they want. Just being born isn't in itself a reason to stay.


wrong planet? so killing yourself will bring you to the right planet?

my point remains the same, suicidal people (been there, dont assume anything else) want THE GOOD IN LIFE. thats why theyre depressed.
ENDING their life wont solve anything.


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14 Apr 2009, 1:09 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
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what a weird question...

DEATH does NOT FIX a PROBLEM.

it ERASES you, and then creates new problems for everyone left, but those cease to exist when it comes to the one who's now dead.

people seem to think DEATH is like some VACATION TO FIJI or something, IT IS NOT.

for "pete's" sake, cant people understand this? ever since the dawn of time, people have offed themselves to solve some problem "dang, my life really sucks. ill fix it by exploding my brain. that's surely gonna make everything better again!"


Sometimes there is no easy fix for a problem. We're on the wrong planet here, sir, and it is a persons right to leave if they want. Just being born isn't in itself a reason to stay.


wrong planet? so killing yourself will bring you to the right planet?

my point remains the same, suicidal people (been there, dont assume anything else) want THE GOOD IN LIFE. thats why theyre depressed.
ENDING their life wont solve anything.



Depends on individual circumstances, of course. To point out a very extreme case, sometimes in Medieval Europe in times of famine, the elderly willingly refused food so that the young would eat enough to survive; comparable sacrifices happened with the early Antarctic explorers or among the Inuit in times of famine. In these cases, suicide was carried out to help everyone else. Of course, suicide is normally done because of one's problems and not as a sacrifice - the famous 'Suicide kills two people - that's what it's for.' You can't generalise to every single case.
As I posted, I would not commit suicide because I can't do that to my parents. But if it weren't for them, others would be neither much worse, nor much better off if I wasn't around.


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14 Apr 2009, 4:09 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
my point remains the same, suicidal people (been there, dont assume anything else) want THE GOOD IN LIFE. thats why theyre depressed.
ENDING their life wont solve anything.


Not all suicidal people want the good in life. It is possible to get to the point when you want nothing more from life at all. When nothing seems a compelling reason to keep going, and everything is a huge effort with little or no reward, leading only to pain. Normally at this point however, there is also no compelling reason or even ability to make the effort to end it all either. Rapid terminal cancer would have been a relief and solved the problem. Dying in an attempt to save a life even better. Not having ever been born, even better still.

This is different from the situation of being in a lot of mental pain and anguish and knowing there is something (albeit impossible) that you want and can't have and therefore want to die a lot more actively to get rid of the pain, but at the same time really want things to get better. Normally this is what I have felt during my depressions. The former feeling (or lack of it) was a bit of a surprise after coming off medication, seeing as I was supposed to be better by then. It is gradually fading though, bit by bit as the summer comes. Slightly unwilling to let it go though completely, as its given me a lack of fear of death and an emotional distance from everything, which is quite protective and could be useful in risky situations.



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14 Apr 2009, 7:01 pm

When I was in primary school I was a zombie, ppl would occasionally pick on me coz I didn't have any friends. Otherwise I sat through class doing whatever work was in front of me, and spent recess and lunch time just walking around the school pointlessly. I didn't have any meaning to life, I would consider killing myself but I wasn't depressed in the slightest. I just wondered if people would care if I died. I would come across a metal poll in the playground (like the monkey bars ect) and I would wonder how quick I could die it by just head butting it repeatedly as hard as I could.
I was so detached I recon I could have just bypassed all self preservation instincts and done it. Not sure if I would have died or passed out first.

At times I had so little joy in my life to outweigh the suffering I had at the hands of my older brother I did intent to kill myself. I kept going only on the knowledge that sooner of later something good would come up to live for. I was so optimistic back then.

In short I survived, but compared to the happy and gentle kid I was b4 primary school I’m dead inside. I can’t feel empathy towards other people, I am sadistic, I don’t even love my girlfriend or any previous one. I can only pretend to have feelings for my friends by beating up anyone who causes them pain.

I like who I am, but I know I cause a lot of pain for many people through my very existence. Social isolation is worst when surrounded by people.



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14 Apr 2009, 7:44 pm

i simply dont have it in me.



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14 Apr 2009, 8:46 pm

Right now? Because my Grandpa just died last night and my family would have too much on their hands if I died. Let me rephrase that, they already do have too much on their hands and it would only add more chaos.

In the future? Because I have a potential to have a great computer career and live on my own. Not to mention, my music skills might lead me to being a bassist in a band eventually and I could have several things going well that would be destroyed if I committed suicide.

Hopefully I won't find myself getting too down ever because if I get too depressed the above is subject to change (I'm not hinting anything, I'm just saying anything's possible).

I never really was that much of a suicide aspie, anywho. I'm more of a rage aspie. For example: "I hate humans" "I'm so mad at the people who bullied me" "Don't bully me or you will get bullied back"...I would say that stuff and not even mean it, though.



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14 Apr 2009, 9:56 pm

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Since this is 'The Haven', I know alot of you have entertained the thought of suicide, and some of you might have actually done it and come back as zombies. Anyway, what's actually stopping you from going through with it?

For me, it's the thought of my family being sad afterwards.


I think part of me wants to live.

The couple of times, it was the hospital. I almost bled to death from a stab wound so I have to say that I'm glad I didn't die that way.

Also I got my cats to worry about and since then I think I've become more aware of how it would affect my family just as my drinking and using did.


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15 Apr 2009, 12:50 am

Frankly, the fact that in my specific situation, it would be a distasteful and pathetic way to kick the bucket. Everyone I care about had better die before I do, So I have nothing to fear about leaving something behind when I do. That's a truly irrational thought, and very subject to change, so don't take it at face value; rather, take the first sentence and ignore everything else. I will add this, however: dying is like being born; if you get the chance, you'll probably regret it at some point.


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15 Apr 2009, 1:04 am

ZEGH8578 wrote:
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what a weird question...

DEATH does NOT FIX a PROBLEM.

it ERASES you, and then creates new problems for everyone left, but those cease to exist when it comes to the one who's now dead.

people seem to think DEATH is like some VACATION TO FIJI or something, IT IS NOT.

for "pete's" sake, cant people understand this? ever since the dawn of time, people have offed themselves to solve some problem "dang, my life really sucks. ill fix it by exploding my brain. that's surely gonna make everything better again!"


Sometimes there is no easy fix for a problem. We're on the wrong planet here, sir, and it is a persons right to leave if they want. Just being born isn't in itself a reason to stay.


wrong planet? so killing yourself will bring you to the right planet?


Nope.


ZEGH8578 wrote:
my point remains the same, suicidal people (been there, dont assume anything else) want THE GOOD IN LIFE. thats why theyre depressed.
ENDING their life wont solve anything.


It will solve the small problem of them having to go through life not wanting to be alive, but yes it creates further problems for friends, family, the people who have to clean it all up.



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15 Apr 2009, 1:17 am

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15 Apr 2009, 12:17 pm

I already posted but I thought of another thing: I have no heirs to leave my estate to. Yes, I have something to leave behind but not much. If I commit suicide now, the government will get it. :evil:


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15 Apr 2009, 11:22 pm

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I already posted but I thought of another thing: I have no heirs to leave my estate to. Yes, I have something to leave behind but not much. If I commit suicide now, the government will get it. :evil:


my 'estate', which is my 401K and my life insurance my company has on me will all go to C.A.T.S (Committed Alliance to Strays) a full adoption shelter, for only adoptable animals: and given to only folks that can make a life-long commitment for them. My cat goes back there, too, he is microchipped.

I guess they just eat it on my school loans. Not much good getting the degree, either, only job I could find you didn't need a degree, anyway

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16 Apr 2009, 12:36 am

Maybe if I live longer, I have a chance of turning bitter and cynical.



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16 Apr 2009, 2:38 am

Fickle_Pickle wrote:
Maybe if I live longer, I have a chance of turning bitter and cynical.


I think I'm already there.... :roll:


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