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Trigger11
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26 Mar 2008, 12:46 pm

Argh!! !! !! !! !! !! ! :x People suck!! !! !! !! !


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26 Mar 2008, 5:03 pm

I find it F'ing hilarious that some humans on here, having experienced extreme emotions themselves, are incapable of even LEARNING any concept of how they work and how they can affect someone.

How much intelligence does it take to understand that when you are angry, distressed, desperate and never having any peace, you do wish to die, you hate yourself so much that you do wish to maybe even die a painful and slow death. Wishing for that does not mean you are disrespecting those who have the said disease, in my opinion. Especially if you would gladly swap with them and give them your life to use to the best of their ability because you cannot heal yourself.

I get tired of people considering physical illness to be more serious and more painful and debillitating than mental illness, simply because with one, you can see the symptoms more obviously. To me, this is utter and total crap. Many mental illnesses are biologically based and many of these can cause death...and before any smartarse says 'it is someone's choice to take their own life', maybe it is, but if one has a biologically based, serious mental illness...or multiple mental illnesses that cause them to be unable to live even a close to normal and peaceful life, who is anyone to say that they chose to die?

Living with mental illness can be just as frightening and just as painful as living with physical illness, and can be just as out of the person's control.

I am sad that all that is important to some is the wording I used, as opposed to the meaning behind the wording and the obvious distress. I do not care if this is a forum for AS, I am close to someone who was diagnosed originally with LFA and they are perfectly capable of seeing past my words.

It would take many hands and fingers to count the number of similar posts in the Haven by others who have, at a very painful time in their lives when they could see no way to turn, wished they were dead or said they were going to kill themselves.

I would have thought that by now it would be fairly obvious such things are cries of desperation, for some sort of help/support, and for someone, anyone, to see what they are going through, even if they cannot fully understand.

It is human nature to turn to others when in need, and to berate anyone for that is to tell them to have that stiff upper lip and conform to this idea that we must not show any weakness nor need anyone else to support us.

Even if we are not a shrink, even if we are not a doctor, that does not mean we cannot be a voice of reason, or a voice that let's someone know that they are not alone, and that there is some hope out there for them.



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26 Mar 2008, 10:44 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
Wishing for that does not mean you are disrespecting those who have the said disease, in my opinion. Especially if you would gladly swap with them and give them your life to use to the best of their ability because you cannot heal yourself.


Avoiding the fallacies prior, and arguments that mean naught as it's stated nowhere that one must provide emotional support to others, especially if they don't know how to under certain situations: it is disrespectful. Daniel wants to die now, but he's too cowardly to kill himself, so he'll wish for AIDS, or perhaps he'll wish for another mental illness that allows one to kill themselves then. It's lacking in courteous regard to those who don't want said illness. For example, if someone said they'd wish for autistic disorder, so they can get out of doing something themselves, I'm not supposed to take that as disrespectful?

dis•re•spect (dsr-spkt)
n.
Lack of respect, esteem, or courteous regard.
tr.v. dis•re•spect•ed, dis•re•spect•ing, dis•re•spects
To show a lack of respect for: disrespected her elders; disrespected the law.



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26 Mar 2008, 11:15 pm

f*****g cant be f*****g bothered, sick of people who have no comprehension of emotion.



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26 Mar 2008, 11:19 pm

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LEAVE ME ALONE.


No worries (this means ok), but if one speaks of me, I'll speak to them if I can, and in here I can.



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27 Mar 2008, 12:34 am

I hate my family.. They never loved me unconditionally. I think sometimes that they are scared that I might draw too much attention to how they really are, pretending to be normal. I am colourful, I'm exceptionally creative, and I deserve better. I think I should just disappear.



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27 Mar 2008, 8:51 am

Averick wrote:
I hate my family.. They never loved me unconditionally. I think sometimes that they are scared that I might draw too much attention to how they really are, pretending to be normal. I am colourful, I'm exceptionally creative, and I deserve better. I think I should just disappear.
I think I might know how you feel...



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27 Mar 2008, 11:15 am

I don't think suicide is cowardly. I think it must take a lot of guts to end one's live, not the death process but forfeiting life and a chance for it to get better. They say there's a solution for everything but no solution for death but what if there is no other solution besides death? It's easy to say.

I know the pain I would cause if I passed away would be too much for you to bear, I know how sensitive to these things you are. You always mention Jucira's son who was killed in an accident and always empathize with her situation. You tell me that there's nothing worse than loosing a child.

I wish I died in an accident, maybe then I wouldn't feel so guilty.


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27 Mar 2008, 11:36 am

I don't think so either. It isn't any more cowardly than hiding under a desk when there's a guy in your classroom shooting people. People have to do what they have to do to protect or save themselves, and for some people it's the only way out (a lot of the time until you give them antidepressants and/or stimulate them in another way, and/or get them to get rid of their problems by making them known to people, etc). If they don't die, they will die. Do you sort of understand? If your house (your head, in this case) is caving in, you need to get out or it will trap you or fall on your head and kill you. And it doesn't function as a house (or a brain) anymore. There are people who went nuts or became catatonic because they did not kill themselves, perhaps because they believed they didn't even have that option.



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27 Mar 2008, 8:53 pm

Suicide is the cowardly thing to do. It is much harder to live.


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28 Mar 2008, 9:59 am

Trigger11 wrote:
It is much harder to live.


That it is.


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28 Mar 2008, 10:59 am

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31 Mar 2008, 6:36 pm

i hate how society tells us how to live and how to act and the fact that it may not work for us. i hate people who litter and dont give a rats ass about our planet. i hate gangs who kill innocent people "accidentally". i hate being single. i hate war. i hate fighting. i hate hate. i wish people could live in peace and i hate the fact that there are so many people who want that but its not happening. i hate being judged on my past and the way i dress or dont dress rather than being judge on who i am. GRRRRRRRRR

ok now i think i should post what i love so i dont get depressed and s**t XD.

i love my family and my friends. i love that i live in a good country although it may be a bit f****d up. i love this forum for being a place were i can come to relate. i love people who care about other people. i love this smiley 8O . i love sleep. i love love. i love peace. i love that little alien dude sitting on the "e" in wrongplanet.net at the top of the page XD. ok ranting done :D now i feel super XD.



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31 Mar 2008, 7:12 pm

Nobody gives a s**t about me. I told Jack that I felt depressed and I couldn't even cry and was afraid to tell anyone because they'd just tell me something stupid like "Be happy, hahaha" or call me stupid or tell me to pull up my socks or something. Rich owned up to it, saying "Only when I'm drunk." Jack said, "What people? Who are these people? I don't know who these people are that you talk to all the time." Getting defensive, thinking I meant him, or something. He cares more about that than about how I feel. More about stupid details, getting bogged down in them. I didn't know he was that badly f*****g autistic. Asking me dumb defensive questions like that and making me feel worse, rather than caring how I feel. I just want to run in front of a firing squad so that someone who cares might notice and want to just make me feel better, forget about stupid details.



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02 Apr 2008, 8:30 am

Sometimes I wish I could leave WP for good. I don't really enjoy it here anymore (not your fault, alex.) but for some reason I keep coming back :x
Sorry.


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02 Apr 2008, 9:03 pm

i don't much enjoy it either

I stay for 1 person
and I am glad to stay for her
she is a good friend