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Luntan wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
The main reason, I believe what your seeing - the narcissism, the unbridled self-intrestest and sheistiness, that's not just a human characteristic, its animal, its characteristic of anything living. Its genetics, the favoritism is eugenics, its our genes and the fragile structure that we're built upon having its way with us.
A biologistic approach to psychology is not very nice. We are more than animals. The most important things in society and our lives can't be related back to the animal kingdom.. Ideas, ideals, music, faith etc. If there's anything people are genetically predispositioned to do it is to get together and solve problems, but that's as far as my biologistic thinking goes.
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Ultimately the world being the way it is is no ones fault and there's no government system that could ever fix this, you could perhaps get a strong global leader with the power to 'make the trains run on time' but while I think you like expediency in helping the suffering I don't think you'd want the reality of it, ie. brown-shirts gone wild.
I think this is very much an american misconception. The idea that any restrictions or rules to how we conduct business, no matter how well thought through, are bad, or that taxes are supposedly immoral.
I'm swedish myself and we never went that route, and hopefully we never will. We're not communist, but we've established a Keynesian economy.
It doesn't really matter in this discussion but here's the deal. If you put the money needed on special education for children with Asperger Syndrome and quit clumping them together with down-syndrome kids etc. If they get the chance to hone their skills and also make up for their weak sides, they are going to be able to walk out in life and manage themselves, be productive, and pay tax too. So it's really a matter of sound social investment when you lift resources and put them on aspies, because they will return it.
What I meant with my post was not so much economics and politics, but there you go. I meant that Aspies shouldn't regard themselves as a problem when they are not. Neither should they think they have to adapt so much. If a work- or social environment just contains people who think and act the same, then it's a really crappy environment. Also, such places aren't ultimately reasonable to begin with and their codes aren't set in stone. Bring forth an aspie and you have more ideas circulating. Also bring a bigger number of women on top positions, more immigrants etc. This is eugenics of ideas, and that's a good thing. It doesn't mean that anyone is sorted out but that more different people = more ideas. The good ideas survive, the social/work environment evolves while nobody is singled out.
In essence, an aspie shouldn't feel suicidal over the fact that he can't go into social situations on the exact same terms as others. If he's got track of the basic good manners then that's enough. We shouldn't ever feel like we should go and hide just because we "totally weirded sombody out". That's crazy.
If we judge ourselves as something of less worth then we're also ruining humanism and help replacing it with something considerably more nasty, social darwinism, and who wants to be guilty of that?
"A simpler life and yes that sounds wonderful."
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