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22 Feb 2012, 9:31 pm

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It isn't exercise that's going to change your weight. It's your diet.


But surely it'll help, right? It'll burn the calories and then fat too right? If I eat better and exercise, surely I can become beautiful?



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22 Feb 2012, 9:34 pm

Erisad wrote:
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It isn't exercise that's going to change your weight. It's your diet.


But surely it'll help, right? It'll burn the calories and then fat too right? If I eat better and exercise, surely I can become beautiful?


It does help but not on it's own.

Exercise increases your hunger. It's a fact. So unless you can control how much you eat it won't make any difference.

Also you may want to consider having a tablespoon of psyllium husks in water with any low fibre meal you have. If you can't keep things moving you're metabolism isn't going to work.



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22 Feb 2012, 9:36 pm

Thing to remember is, your body looks at you exactly the opposite of the way you look at you.

It sees that being overweight as glorious reserves encase of starvation.. you have to figure out how to trick it into know it's still being fed the same quantity it's used too.. but at the same time cut down on the things it can store easily.. like Carbs.



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22 Feb 2012, 9:36 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
It isn't exercise that's going to change your weight. It's your diet.


But surely it'll help, right? It'll burn the calories and then fat too right? If I eat better and exercise, surely I can become beautiful?


It does help but not on it's own.

Exercise increases your hunger. It's a fact. So unless you can control how much you eat it won't make any difference.

Also you may want to consider having a tablespoon of psyllium husks in water with any low fibre meal you have. If you can't keep things moving you're metabolism isn't going to work.


psyllium husks? Does it dissolve in the water? I have actually no idea what that is...I'm good with getting fiber and stuff usually. I figure if I'm going to keep screwing up my diet, I may as well make up for it with exercise.



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22 Feb 2012, 9:40 pm

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Thing to remember is, your body looks at you exactly the opposite of the way you look at you.

It sees that being overweight as glorious reserves encase of starvation.. you have to figure out how to trick it into know it's still being fed the same quantity it's used too.. but at the same time cut down on the things it can store easily.. like Carbs.


...and there's the trick. My body is so good at storing s**t that I don't know how to be thin. :(



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22 Feb 2012, 9:40 pm

Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
It isn't exercise that's going to change your weight. It's your diet.


But surely it'll help, right? It'll burn the calories and then fat too right? If I eat better and exercise, surely I can become beautiful?


It does help but not on it's own.

Exercise increases your hunger. It's a fact. So unless you can control how much you eat it won't make any difference.

Also you may want to consider having a tablespoon of psyllium husks in water with any low fibre meal you have. If you can't keep things moving you're metabolism isn't going to work.


psyllium husks? Does it dissolve in the water? I have actually no idea what that is...I'm good with getting fiber and stuff usually. I figure if I'm going to keep screwing up my diet, I may as well make up for it with exercise.


There's high fibre and HIGH fibre.
I consider any meal that isn't all bran, fruit, vegetables or legumes low fibre.
It doesn't disolve in water, but it's taken in water. It's a gross texture. But it keeps your bowel clean.

The problem with mending a bad diet with exercise is that you may feel like it's worked, and you'll feel more comfortable eating bad food when in reality you're still gaining weight because you aren't burning off anywhere near as much as you think you ought to be.

You have to remember how much energy is in food. A half hour hill walk will burn off a couple of deep fried chips and nothing more.



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22 Feb 2012, 9:47 pm

Erisad wrote:
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Thing to remember is, your body looks at you exactly the opposite of the way you look at you.

It sees that being overweight as glorious reserves encase of starvation.. you have to figure out how to trick it into know it's still being fed the same quantity it's used too.. but at the same time cut down on the things it can store easily.. like Carbs.


...and there's the trick. My body is so good at storing sh** that I don't know how to be thin. :(


Well.. i got my nickname because I figured out, after I hit 180lbs, that if I dropped all sugar from my diet, and ate raw celery, carrots and the like at every meal.. I could get rid of fat.. I dropped 35pounds in just a few months.. I've since put some of it back on since I became a student and quit walking to work... it's harder to avoid fast food when you have a 2 hour commute each way to and from school in addition to 7 hours at school.



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22 Feb 2012, 9:51 pm

I agree with Hale-Bopp. Excercise alone won't do much to reduce weight. I exercised a huge amount and stayed the same weight for a long time. It was only when I got careful control of my diet that I lost weight.

The way I think of it now is that you reduce your calories to lose weight and you increase your excercise to feel good. Just walking a mile or riding a bike for a few miles can give you energy and make you feel a lot better. It won't take weight off, but you will be mentally clearer and you will probably feel a lot happier. Reducing portion size at meals may feel a bit unpleasant at first, but you get used to it after a few days and it really isn't a big deal afterward.

Good luck.


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22 Feb 2012, 9:52 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
It isn't exercise that's going to change your weight. It's your diet.


But surely it'll help, right? It'll burn the calories and then fat too right? If I eat better and exercise, surely I can become beautiful?


It does help but not on it's own.

Exercise increases your hunger. It's a fact. So unless you can control how much you eat it won't make any difference.

Also you may want to consider having a tablespoon of psyllium husks in water with any low fibre meal you have. If you can't keep things moving you're metabolism isn't going to work.


psyllium husks? Does it dissolve in the water? I have actually no idea what that is...I'm good with getting fiber and stuff usually. I figure if I'm going to keep screwing up my diet, I may as well make up for it with exercise.


There's high fibre and HIGH fibre.
I consider any meal that isn't all bran, fruit, vegetables or legumes low fibre.
It doesn't disolve in water, but it's taken in water. It's a gross texture. But it keeps your bowel clean.

The problem with mending a bad diet with exercise is that you may feel like it's worked, and you'll feel more comfortable eating bad food when in reality you're still gaining weight because you aren't burning off anywhere near as much as you think you ought to be.

You have to remember how much energy is in food. A half hour hill walk will burn off a couple of deep fried chips and nothing more.


*sigh* Bulimia and anorexia sounds much easier. >.<



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22 Feb 2012, 9:55 pm

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I agree with Hale-Bopp. Excercise alone won't do much to reduce weight. I exercised a huge amount and stayed the same weight for a long time. It was only when I got careful control of my diet that I lost weight.

The way I think of it now is that you reduce your calories to lose weight and you increase your excercise to feel good. Just walking a mile or riding a bike for a few miles can give you energy and make you feel a lot better. It won't take weight off, but you will be mentally clearer and you will probably feel a lot happier. Reducing portion size at meals may feel a bit unpleasant at first, but you get used to it after a few days and it really isn't a big deal afterward.

Good luck.



*sigh* So how much do I have to do? Eat nothing but fruits and vegetables, give up meat and everything delicious and one day I'll be thin and finally be worth something as a woman? I'll most likely still be miserable since I wouldn't be allowed sweets or anything yummy. I just don't know how to adapt to this kind of lifestyle. Maybe it's because I live with my grandma who eats a dessert after EVERY MEAL. :(



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22 Feb 2012, 10:26 pm

You are worth so much more that you are likely to believe.

There really isn't a critical reason to lose weight if it isn't causing you serious health problems. I understand wanting to lose weight for your own sense of self. I need to lose some weigh (again) myself so believe me, I ain't gonna be the first one to complain. But I understand feeling like a lesser person in this society because I weigh more than average.

There are some practical guidelines that are useful if you want to lose weight, but every person is more than their weight. Regardless of any physical qualities, you are intelligent (I've read many of your posts) and focusing only on one physical aspect ignores all the other good and bad things that you are.

Weight is a rather superficial aspect of a person. Some people might think it's important. Are they really the kind of people whose opinion means a lot? Aren't there more important things in life? I assume you are young... In your 20's... These things seem a lot more important. Heck most things seem a lot more important when you are young. Give it a few years... What is more important is who you are as a human being. Focus on that.

Do the things that make you feel better. Don't worry too much what others think. (I know... Easier said than done) you may never believe you are as good a person a you are. Nothing I write would convince you of something you don't believe... But I've read a few of your posts and you're not so bad.

There is no easy answer to life. But really, is it fair to be so hard on yourself? Wouldn't you be angry If someone treated a friend of your's the way you treat yourself?


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22 Feb 2012, 10:28 pm

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Just be careful about the spinning, it is addictive. I love bikes. I have a Trek and a Kurt Kinetic Fluid Trainer that I use with computer that tells me how many miles and calories burned plus several spinning DVD's by Spinervals. I also have a folding bike called a Brompton that is fun.


It's not bad as long as your butt doesn't get too sore.



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22 Feb 2012, 11:17 pm

Erisad wrote:
jagatai wrote:
I agree with Hale-Bopp. Excercise alone won't do much to reduce weight. I exercised a huge amount and stayed the same weight for a long time. It was only when I got careful control of my diet that I lost weight.

The way I think of it now is that you reduce your calories to lose weight and you increase your excercise to feel good. Just walking a mile or riding a bike for a few miles can give you energy and make you feel a lot better. It won't take weight off, but you will be mentally clearer and you will probably feel a lot happier. Reducing portion size at meals may feel a bit unpleasant at first, but you get used to it after a few days and it really isn't a big deal afterward.

Good luck.



*sigh* So how much do I have to do? Eat nothing but fruits and vegetables, give up meat and everything delicious and one day I'll be thin and finally be worth something as a woman? I'll most likely still be miserable since I wouldn't be allowed sweets or anything yummy. I just don't know how to adapt to this kind of lifestyle. Maybe it's because I live with my grandma who eats a dessert after EVERY MEAL. :(


Giving up what's delicious is a sacrafice most people have to make.

I don't. I simply eat nothing by raw fruit lean meat legumes and vege as long as I can have a tasty meal to look forward to at the end of the day. I don't know if it works, it might :p



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22 Feb 2012, 11:26 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Erisad wrote:
jagatai wrote:
I agree with Hale-Bopp. Excercise alone won't do much to reduce weight. I exercised a huge amount and stayed the same weight for a long time. It was only when I got careful control of my diet that I lost weight.

The way I think of it now is that you reduce your calories to lose weight and you increase your excercise to feel good. Just walking a mile or riding a bike for a few miles can give you energy and make you feel a lot better. It won't take weight off, but you will be mentally clearer and you will probably feel a lot happier. Reducing portion size at meals may feel a bit unpleasant at first, but you get used to it after a few days and it really isn't a big deal afterward.

Good luck.



*sigh* So how much do I have to do? Eat nothing but fruits and vegetables, give up meat and everything delicious and one day I'll be thin and finally be worth something as a woman? I'll most likely still be miserable since I wouldn't be allowed sweets or anything yummy. I just don't know how to adapt to this kind of lifestyle. Maybe it's because I live with my grandma who eats a dessert after EVERY MEAL. :(


Giving up what's delicious is a sacrafice most people have to make.

I don't. I simply eat nothing by raw fruit lean meat legumes and vege as long as I can have a tasty meal to look forward to at the end of the day. I don't know if it works, it might :p



I despaired over eating healthy, and then I discovered a cook book of Indian recipes.. It's amazing how many different ways you can cook lentils and not get sick of them..



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22 Feb 2012, 11:33 pm

legumes are really amazing.

I made nachos the other day, sure, they aren't what I would call healthy, but they had the following:

1 chopped up courgette
Half a chopped capsicum
2 chopped carrots
Chopped brocolli
Can of chickpeas
Can of chilli beans
can of salsa
One tomato
One onion
I packet of nacho seasoning

(Plus chips, a little cheese and lite sour cream)

Yeah, it's got some fattening elements. But look at all those nutrients!



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23 Feb 2012, 3:11 am

Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Erisad wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
It isn't exercise that's going to change your weight. It's your diet.


But surely it'll help, right? It'll burn the calories and then fat too right? If I eat better and exercise, surely I can become beautiful?


It does help but not on it's own.

Exercise increases your hunger. It's a fact. So unless you can control how much you eat it won't make any difference.

Also you may want to consider having a tablespoon of psyllium husks in water with any low fibre meal you have. If you can't keep things moving you're metabolism isn't going to work.


psyllium husks? Does it dissolve in the water? I have actually no idea what that is...I'm good with getting fiber and stuff usually. I figure if I'm going to keep screwing up my diet, I may as well make up for it with exercise.


There's high fibre and HIGH fibre.
I consider any meal that isn't all bran, fruit, vegetables or legumes low fibre.
It doesn't disolve in water, but it's taken in water. It's a gross texture. But it keeps your bowel clean.

The problem with mending a bad diet with exercise is that you may feel like it's worked, and you'll feel more comfortable eating bad food when in reality you're still gaining weight because you aren't burning off anywhere near as much as you think you ought to be.

You have to remember how much energy is in food. A half hour hill walk will burn off a couple of deep fried chips and nothing more.


*sigh* Bulimia and anorexia sounds much easier. >.<


No they are not. :(

Today I ate 4 small slices of pizza at a uni conferance because my son was feeding me. This is the first I have eaten since Saturday. I still ended up vomiting from this amount of food and I feel really bloated and dehydrated now. Plus I feel twice as fat as usual so i am laying in bed in my fat clothes. You are beautiful erisad. Don't ever wish an eating disorder on yourself.


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