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17 Apr 2013, 12:47 pm

Nothing is EVER your fault, is it?



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17 Apr 2013, 12:50 pm

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I think the entire problem with this thread is that the OP wanted to have everyone side with her and say "Poor Namaste" and when that has not happened it brought out her teeth and nails. She is getting advice on how to change and better her life instead of "you poor lady... "

This woman is not ready for positive change in her life. Regardless of culture every human being has emotions, a conscience, remorse, sadness and anger and too many more emotions to list. Who in the world would like a plate thrown at them? Or their neck throttled? NO ONE. NOT EVEN THE OP HERSELF. So it makes not one jot where in this world you reside. I don't care who you are, what age you are and where you are from - someones hands around your neck is going to mess with your head... your confidence and your successes and failures in this life. No matter where you live you can find kind acts and people acting outside the "culturally acceptable" ways... you just have to want to do so. Just because it is culturally acceptable doesn't mean you have to act that way. By the OP's own admission her husband is nice to their son and his parents before him were nice parents - and sadly that apparently makes her sick and intolerant. (shocker! Totally against cultural accepted ways! So point proven just because culture accepts mean and nasty doesn't mean you have to be that way)

The OP has no problems telling her abuse stories and so wants everyone to recognize how she has suffered. Well her childhood is over. She needs to get over it and heal. Her son is suffering at her hands now... That is the current situation and the issue at hand.

I feel for her that she has had such a rough childhood, been forced into marriage and had a child she didn't want. But that is exactly what life has given her... So she can accept the mud she is in and start changing to start building a better life... or she can continue sinking in the mud and continue to be miserable. Those are her choices as I see them.. but apparently these views are unwelcome and anger generating.

Yes i actually thought i would get some support here. Because people here could always understand me. Whether its fear of pregnancy, or dealing with social cues or visiting a beauty parlour and feeling uncomfortable. I could always relate to the problems people on WP face and most of the time i felt similar way. So i came here thinking probably others also face the usual problem of dealing with childrens tantrums and husbands who dont listen.
I was in a bad phase of my life and without support from anyone neither parents, no siblings. I came up here to see whether others face this problem...but the language which was used against me literally disappoints me. In the womens discussion thread women are writing how they are afraid of getting pregnant and going through birthing process and delivery is painful/nightmarish.
I could relate to that but if i speak about it in India women would scorn at me here all the ladies have two children, they are not afraid of getting pregnant, most of the women get pregnant immediately after marriage, they are trained and counselled about pregnancy right from childhood by their mothers and sisters...they are not afraid.
I never understood why I am afraid of pregnancy and delivery.
But i am quite disappointed with the language, explanation and harsh talk given by forum members for some issue I am facing...
They could have been little polite and discreet. I would have still understood and implemented things if they had put it across in better way
rather then verbally abusing me.
I would not discuss family problems on WP now onwards.
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17 Apr 2013, 12:52 pm

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Great. Within the next 20 years, all North American parents will be using the Asian Method with all of their children no matter what their challenges are. I can just see it now and the parents won't care that the young would be taking their own lives.

Pure Racism


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17 Apr 2013, 12:57 pm

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If you want to excuse your behaviour as "culture", I think of the "asian method" (mostly Japan) which is gaining popularity here in North America.

The parents will scream and hurl insults and abuse, withholding all love and compassion until the child performs up to their insanely high standards (like a perfect score on a test - even a 99% is punishable.)

People are starting to like how it generates high achieving children... but they forget about the other side of the coin, which is that the children are miserable, depressed, and committing suicide in huge numbers.


Your method of ruling like a cruel tyrant is obviously not working - your child doesn't do what you want. As he gets older, he will resist your cruelty even more.


YOU MUST MAKE THE CHANGE. No more excuses.

I have been repeating again and again that i have never pressurised my son to perform better in anything
He is a average student scoring 60%, he has his school diary full of red remarks
His teachers keep on calling me complaining against him
He performs poorly in class test and all books are incomplete

I never run around with a gun behind him asking him to score 99%

Infact many of his classmates are scoring 80% and above
And yes many of his classmates parents have quit talking with me
because of my lack of interest in his studies
They are always pressurising their children to score well not only in studies but also in extra curricular things
They keep private tutors and also they themself teach their children.

You cant blame me based on your own delusions
just curious are you on some psychiatric medications??
You sound very delusional


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17 Apr 2013, 1:12 pm

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So from my oppinion its much better to be in a good border school the boy is happy with, then being at home with a mother that simply doesnt love him and cant handle the situation of socially being expected to love and care for the child she hates. But there is no use thinking about it, if there is no loving family around. There simply is no therapy that forces you to love your kid.

I dont hate my kid

His behaviour is difficult, much difficult then any Indian parent would tolerate

My mother in law, my husband, his tution teacher, his class teachers are also not able to handle him
we all have almost given up on him.

And i have come from totally disturbed background its even more difficult for me to deal with such a kid.
and my husband is not much of a help... he doesnt take up responsibility of even talking with the kids school counsellor
but he is always ready to spoil the kid by supporting him in wrong things.

I want a change i want a husband who is firm with children and who knows the worldly ways, accepts responsibilities and is not blaming me
for things which ultimately he has done.
I want a kid who is not pampered and spoiled by his father, who takes responsibility in doing his work with sincerity, who doesnt steal money from house
to fund his addiction of playing trump cards with friends, who completes school homework, who doesnt throw tantrums to eat food, who doesnt need to fed with hands at age of 9, who doesnt tell lies,
I dont expect my child to get 99% and complete all his homework

But after coming from a house where mother used to make me do all household chores
Where father was drunk and beating daily and not allowing me to study
where no one was interested in my studies
I managed to score good grades and completed all my homework, books task on my own

My son has a far better atmosphere at home and he isnt doing even 20% of what i was doing
About husband i dont think he will change
we have reached stagnation point of our relationship
a point where cricket and football scores matter more then wives happiness
a point where you end conversation with monosyllablical answers
a point where you prefer sleeping on the couch, watching a match on TV then going
out for a walk with your wife.


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17 Apr 2013, 1:14 pm

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Please do not personally attack members based on their viewpoints, it won't make anything better if you attack people for their views. Also it is against forum rules as well. Don't let this thread get out of control or a mod will lock the thread. Please keep this in mind.

so why arent you saying this to the person who made harsh comments to me


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17 Apr 2013, 1:15 pm

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Nothing is EVER your fault, is it?

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17 Apr 2013, 1:31 pm

In other news, this thread doesn't fit the criteria of The Haven anymore does it?



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17 Apr 2013, 1:35 pm

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In other news, this thread doesn't fit the criteria of The Haven anymore does it?

yes because it ultimately turned up into personal bashing, humiliation and racist attack thread.


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17 Apr 2013, 3:47 pm

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MacGyverAspie wrote:
In other news, this thread doesn't fit the criteria of The Haven anymore does it?

yes because it ultimately turned up into personal bashing, humiliation and racist attack thread.


More like a deflect-everything-away-so-I-don't-have-to-be-responsible-for-anything thread. :roll:



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17 Apr 2013, 4:07 pm

namaste wrote:
MacGyverAspie wrote:
In other news, this thread doesn't fit the criteria of The Haven anymore does it?

yes because it ultimately turned up into personal bashing, humiliation and racist attack thread.




Again, I SEE NO RACISM.

It's just people's separate opinions, and there is NOTHING wrong with that.



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17 Apr 2013, 5:33 pm

I have nothing left to add to this thread. The thing about Wrongplanet people is that we're going to be very truthful and blunt about family issues, because many of us have been through similar experiences. My favourite staff worker at Stepping Stones is East Indian, so I'm not racist. I have friends of many races as well.


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17 Apr 2013, 5:45 pm

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Your son and husband would feel safer without you. I doubt that your son potty's in his pants on purpose to provoke you. I'm incontinent. I know he doesn't. The pressure that he's under is making his shaking and incontinence worse.

Here's a little mind game for you. Imagine that your son's you and you're your son. Imagine that you come home from school each day expecting love and nurturing and it's nowhere to be found. You don't know if you're going to get hugs or beatings. Imagine that you're shaking and you lose control over the type of incontinence that you would experience if you were your son. Imagine how you would feel knowing that you were going to get some lashes and you wouldn't get supper that night.

I think you are sick.
Who told you i beat up my son the moment he enters the house
You think i am some psychotic or what??
I am very nice to him,...i complete his homework, i allow him to play for hours, i am not at all strict with him..
You create anything based on your assumptions.

What knowledge you have about encopresis??? Its caused due to genetic predisposition and not due to my beatings
Without having medical knowledge how can you blame me?
Go and do some research before pointing fingers
http://www.ucanpooptoo.com/about-encopr ... ble-causes



Encopresis is occasionally aggravated by a genetic tendency to enlarged lower bowel, but is far more frequently due to psychological disturbances.

http://www.attachmentexperts.com/whatisattachment.html
http://www.psikofarmakoloji.org/pdf/21_4_7.pdf



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17 Apr 2013, 6:00 pm

Everyone can poo, it's just a matter of whether the nerves of your body and your rectum will allow you to make it to the toilet on time.


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18 Apr 2013, 12:23 am

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namaste wrote:
MacGyverAspie wrote:
In other news, this thread doesn't fit the criteria of The Haven anymore does it?

yes because it ultimately turned up into personal bashing, humiliation and racist attack thread.




Again, I SEE NO RACISM.

It's just people's separate opinions, and there is NOTHING wrong with that.


What am I? The Big, Bad Anglo Racist now? I don't see any racism in this thread, either.


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18 Apr 2013, 2:31 am

Me driving people nuts
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