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OliveOilMom
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27 Aug 2015, 9:35 am

Skilpadde wrote:

Please keep in mind, guys, that this is the Haven. This part of WP is about support and understanding, not advice, however well-intended it may be. When members post here, they are not asking for advice, but empathy. On any other part of WP advice is fine, but replies posted here must be in concordance with the rules of the Haven, and not be upsetting to the OP of the thread. Some posts in this thread break the spirit and the rules of the Haven.

Please respect that this is the Haven and stick to the rules for posting here.

Well ok. Never mind. No advice here. Just hugs cause that will help solve the problem.

No more advice.

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28 Aug 2015, 6:40 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:

Skilpadde wrote:

Well ok. Never mind. No advice here. Just hugs cause that will help solve the problem.

No more advice.

hey OliveOilMom. have you been ok? I haven't' seen you on as much :S

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29 Aug 2015, 4:36 am

sly279 wrote:

OliveOilMom wrote:

Skilpadde wrote:

Well ok. Never mind. No advice here. Just hugs cause that will help solve the problem.

No more advice.

hey OliveOilMom. have you been ok? I haven't' seen you on as much :S

I've had a bad sinus infection and it's hard to post on this phone. You might not be seeing me around at all because I got a warning for my quoted post saying I would comply with not giving you advice. Did my "sarcasm" bother you at all in that post? I'm asking because you are the OP and the mod who warned me is the one I said it to. I want to make sure that didn't upset you and that might be why I got the warning.

Also have I been bothering you giving you advice so far? From what I gather when we post to each other, You were interested in hearing it considering I had some things that would help. I believe you even asked for my advice a page or two earlier in this thread. But I did read what the mod said and I complied with it, although obviously not as humble and grateful for the words of wisdom as was expected. Anyway I've asked if the warning can be reviewed by a board etc and there is no telling how this will go. I didn't insult anyone and didn't break any rules and so I'm asking for this to be fixed. We will have to wait and see but if I'm around I'll be glad to help you out and if I'm not then wp will have gone completely over to the touchy feely side where nobody will ever read anything constructive. I won't come back if I get anything else for something that isn't a rule violation and is only slight offense taken by the person not in distress and it's not even anything actually ride or sarcastic. Trust me if a sentence like that is banned then nobody will ever learn anything here.

But we shall see.

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29 Aug 2015, 5:00 am

Actually one other person was reported here, not you.

Skilpadde posted that warning here for everyone since debate became a bit too heated for heaven and it was making sly feel even worse. He didn't mention you in any bad context.

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29 Aug 2015, 7:19 am

sly279 wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Sly equates women being condescending to women wanting him to die.

This is erroneous.

Sly has lots of virtues, I'm sure.

no i relate them saying I'm sub standard and worthless to wanting me to die. they see me as a burden surely me dieing would then free them of that burden

condescending is just mean. its treating people like children. I've noticed women do it a lot when they disagree with you but dont' just say so. they pretend to agree with you in a condecending tone. so you know they don't actually agrree with you. its a mind game meant to confuse and belittle us.

maybe but non of them matter without the high income. many women say I'd make a good bf until they find out I make min wage. so they like that I'm romantic, kind, caring, sweet, cute, funny, and sexual stuff, but all that goes into the trash over income. baffers me how women will have a guy that meets 99% of their wants and refuse him over a single issue, they want perfection.

though some will accept a guy who lacks all the stuff I do as long as he has high income.

to me this is insane. money isnt' important. all the other stuff. you know personality and intersts is the important things. or you might as well just be a whore and exchange sex for money. if you are witha guy who doens't meat the other stuff you want but has money then that's what they'll doing. sure its not outright because you're pretending to have a relationship. but if you exchanging your sex for his income what else is it?
not saying all women do this, but some women even say they give the guy "comfort" for his income. can they really not see it for what it is?

got in a arguement wtih lady over it. shes like the majority of women so I thoght since shes talking to me I could ask her about that stuff and find out whats the min money the majority of women like here would accept but she wont' anwser.

i don't get it. they say they not asshamed of it and they right ot demand it so why act ashamed by not answering.

if you ask me about stuff I do and I'm not asshamed of it I'll tell you. most people will talk about stuff they aren't ashamed of but won't if they are. so is part of her ashamed shes superficial?

I've been sick for awhile and maybe the antibiotic I'm taking now just kicked in. Anyway, I'm not sure what the rules are here in this Haven place, but is this post about me? So far, I've been called "superficial" several times and I don't feel like I am at all. Are you wanting me to quote money amounts that I expect? Because I will. I'm not ashamed, at all, about how I think and what I want. It has nothing to do with not liking men - I love men. But, there are certain things I'm looking for in a partner and I won't settle and have someone make me feel bad because I know what I want. So if I am the person you speak of in this post, I will gladly come out and say numbers, but I don't think it will make you feel any better about the situation and that's why I haven't done it.

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29 Aug 2015, 7:35 am

Another thing I want to add (not to anyone in particular), is there's a reason I want someone who makes the same as myself. Last year, I lost my job (which can happen to anyone) and you need a second income to support the lifestyle both of you have made. Now, I have a very bad case of pneumonia and have had to go on short term disability which I will be bringing in only 60% of my normal income which is not going to be enough without me going into my savings. I've never been sick in my life and here I am battling a really bad case of pneumonia that's going to have me out of work for probably a couple of months because I'm not progressing like they think I should be. I might even have to go into the hospital. Why am I saying this? Because anyone's health can go bad at anytime and you need another income that is the same in order to maintain the life that you and your partner have built together. People don't think about the problems that arise, but sure as the sun comes up you're going to have a rainy day that you better have planned for because its coming. I have specifically planned just for these times and that's why I'm feeling a little bit better about my circumstance of being this sick. Now all I have to focus on is getting well so I can then get back to work and prepare for another rainy day should it come. I don't want to be with someone who lives life day to day and doesn't plan for any bad times. Planning for these times requires money. Love isn't going to help me keep breathing should my pneumonia get any worse. I'm a realist.

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29 Aug 2015, 8:23 am

Angela, you don't have to justify yourself. It's obvious you can't have a person who makes EXACTLY as much as you do. But it would be desirable, given your circumstances, to have a man who makes a decent wage. But if it so happens you fall madly in love with some poor guy...who knows

Olive Oil: Sly does appreciate your advice, despite his reaction to it. He missed you. You're like an old shoe to him. He tends to go overboard on things.

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29 Aug 2015, 8:42 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

Olive Oil: Sly does appreciate your advice, despite his reaction to it. He missed you. You're like an old shoe to him. He tends to go overboard on things.

Mr. K,

If I didn't feel like I had to keep justifying myself, I wouldn't be. I'm tired of being labeled as "superficial" when I have plenty of great qualities to offer in a relationship. I guess this Haven place is supposed to be a place where only good things are said to make people feel better, but I'm not reading any good things in regards to women - same bashing except I guess nothing can be said to the OP now unless its something backing up their claim and making them feel better? I don't get the logic.

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29 Aug 2015, 8:48 am

I don't think any logical person is offended if somebody takes a stand (without insulting anybody) and sticks with it. Are you feeling a little better? If not...maybe go to Urgent Care?

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29 Aug 2015, 3:54 pm

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It was a pm from him to me that said board warning and it was about my remark

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29 Aug 2015, 4:07 pm

Nurseangela I am getting over a sinus infection right now and had a terrible time. I got lincocin and decadron in the ER and codeine and phenergan syrup along with Biaxin for home. I was fine for five days of the ten day round but then my slight stomach upset turned into hell on earth. I had projectile vomiting and dry heaves for two solid days.

I threw up everything I ever ate, things I only thought about eating, things my kids ate, and the shop vac we keep in the storage room lol. It was bad. They said to d-c the Biaxin and I did and in getting better. Be careful and I hope you don't have the reaction I did

Kraftie I know sly appreciates it and I don't mind giving it to him. He needs a little tough love and I know not to go overboard with it. My issue was the pm warning I got for my post about how hugs won't really solve his problem. It didn't upset sly at all only the moderator. I thought it was the OP who was supposed to be protected in the haven and not the mods, especially when that post wasn't mean by anyone's standards. I can usually tell when somebody could use my form of support and I give it then and I don't beat a dead horse. My point was that if we just give gentle hugs and don't offer any advice them we might as well all give up and move into our mothers basement and buy a shedload of cats and sonic games cause we will be screwed, blued, and tattooed without real support and advice. Also if that very mild post of mine is offensive to anyone (and it wasn't to the OP sly) then they are going to have real problems dealing with people out in the world and really do need some tough love help so they can learn how to handle things like that without it upsetting them.

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29 Aug 2015, 4:15 pm

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I can not think of a group of people that are more hated right now than white males, add a dash of Autism and U. S. policies... well, you get the idea.

That means I'm like the most hated person in the world, and all I've ever done is stay to myself. Oh well, I guess I was born with at least one skill: pissing people off.

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29 Aug 2015, 4:28 pm

Aristophanes wrote:

Anachron wrote:

I can not think of a group of people that are more hated right now than white males, add a dash of Autism and U. S. policies... well, you get the idea.

That means I'm like the most hated person in the world, and all I've ever done is stay to myself. Oh well, I guess I was born with at least one skill: pissing people off.

Don't buy into that s**t please.

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30 Aug 2015, 3:08 am

OliveOilMom wrote:

sly279 wrote:

OliveOilMom wrote:

Skilpadde wrote:

Well ok. Never mind. No advice here. Just hugs cause that will help solve the problem.

No more advice.

hey OliveOilMom. have you been ok? I haven't' seen you on as much :S

I didn't and never have reported you. you've never said anything out right mean to me that i can remember. other then maybe the oral thing in adult section but you didn't do it to be mean to me. I don't think anyways.
I do hope you don't get banned from here. only person who deserves that is the one lady and she keeps coming back despite being banned. you'd be missed. i was concerned that you hadn't been on. i know you've had a hard past year.

sorry about about your sinus infection. I myself am sick with a cold I hope. day 4 or 5, if it goes longer or gets worse might be flue again. did you get the infection from a cold/flue. i hear thats one of the main ways it can happen. I think i had one for a while after the flu as all the other symptoms went a way but the nose problem for a while.

only person who upset me was the one who called me a whiney victim and what not and they appoligized. well only main one in this thread. i've been keeping out of the politics forum.

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30 Aug 2015, 3:25 am

nurseangela wrote:

sly279 wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Sly equates women being condescending to women wanting him to die.

This is erroneous.

Sly has lots of virtues, I'm sure.

no this is not about you. but yes i do think you are superficial. but so is a lot of the population they and you all got sucked into the myth that you need money and tons of it to live

poor people get sick to and they make do over and over and over. guys who are the sole provider get sick and still their family's make due. so it is possible to live good lives without being well off and having lots of money. you'll never see that though. you've totally bought into the bankers lies that you need money to live . that you need millions and millions to have kids. you need what it cost to build a f22 jet to have one kid lol. yet the militay is made up of a lot of poor peoples kids who still managed to grow up and join or go to college. how do all these poor kids live . they are contradiction to the laws society says are true. if you need that much then these kids should all be dead. yet me and billions others aren't. also how do people in Africa, china, India, Russia etc live despite lacking the money? people can and will make do and live. we adapt, overcome and survive. its not only well off and rich people who get married and have kids.

bashing to women. so never say anything bad about women. if a woman is mean you go online and praise how good and holy she is right. yep women climb back up on your alter so we can worship you again. nope women are humans they do bad things and should get called out on them. try not to take when men complain about other women as an attack on all women kind.

hope you get better from this pneumonia thing quickly. normally i'd hug but I doubt you want it from me so I'll respect that.

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30 Aug 2015, 8:08 am

Sly: any sensible woman would want a hug from you.

Also: Olive will never get banned.

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