Why did God make people with AS?

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Hi Amnos, thank you for the quote of Bo Giertz. I like that.

BTW where are you from, since you know him? Are some of his books translated into English? I only thought they were translated to other Scandinavian languages. (He is Swedish, for those who don't know.)

I like his 2 devotional books "At tro på Kristus" and "At leve med Kristus" (To believe in Christ / To live with Christ). And his novel Stengrunden (The stone ground) (Not sure about English titles, if there are any.) Do you know those? Maybe your quote was from the devotional?

I just recently read it in his devotional "To live with Christ", and thought it befitted this discussion reasonably well.


Yes, I'm Scandinavian, but due to my alarmingly paranoid nature I won't disclose my location any further.

I am slightly besmitten with the English language so I opted for the English edition of the devotional through amazon. To level things out I also got C.O. Rosenius's devotional in my own (undisclosed) language. If you don't know it I highly recommend it, it's slightly more pietistic in nature.

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Please forgive me there! I only meant to add a little more to what you had said.

Please cheer up.
God doesn't mean to do that. I believe that.
Actually AS are just as normal people, they don't have to be seperated from the others.
Please don't tell yourself it's suffer.
When you don't understand others body languge or cues, just ask them what's they mean.
And trust what they tell you.

Why would'nt God?

OK then. Yes I know Rosenius's devotional. I have it in an old edition from 1945 or such. (There came an edition in Danish some years ago in more modern language, but the chapters were also shortened. I went for the long version. ) I like it very much, and also Rosenius's book Vejledning til fred. That has been a great help for me in a difficult time. So, now it's my turn to recommend you a book.

I have been meaning to read that one for years, but haven't found the time yet. Perhaps I should make the time seeing as you recommend it.

So as not to exclude the Danes I've also read "Faith's mirror" by Pontoppidan, which I presume you are familiar with.
I found it fairly challenging as, I suppose, it's very intent is to root out false faith.
I also want to read Kierkegaard's work, but limited time is preventing me.

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I prefere cubes

He did it because he likes the chaos

why els would he make us were the missing link between Normal and ret*d

God made people with AS, because without us, there wouldn't be artists, authours or musicians. He also made us, because we're the ones with the special interests who write the books on them, and make lots of money. He also made us, so that most of the people in our lives will learn to be more patient and tolerant.

There's a good number of the aforementioned with AS. There is a good number of brilliant and talented AS people in all fields (artistic and otherwise) who make unique and valuable contributions to humanity.

There are also millions with AS and every other mental and/or physical issue who are suffering terribly. The suffering of these millions is often directly related to their mental/physical "issue". Many of these people ARE NOT making ANY "valuable and unique contributions" to humanity. Not because they don't want to....but because their "issue" renders them wholly incapable of doing so.

Now we could say these "lesser folk" make valuable and unique contributions in the sense that they teach "the rest of us" how to be more patient, tolerant, loving and compassionate. Or maybe they're *just* "god's special angels" who bring oodles of warm fuzzies to their loved ones

If so....then we're saying these individuals are nothing more than god's unwilling sacrificial lambs. I guess they're nothing more than educational props which aid in the moral instruction of god's choosen flock eh? Or maybe they're just delightful "special angels" who live in agony while their loved ones wax poetic on the internet about the joy they bring to THEIR lives.

THIS is how the omnipotent and omnibenevolent god operates?

According to the Christian religion...Jesus willlingly took up his cross. He suppposedly had free will and could've refused to do so.

Seems like god didn't give the millions I speak of the same choice. In those cases, it would seem like our loving father in heaven did the crucifying himself.

Now I know it's horribly... *gasp*... selfish of them (Unlike the rest of selfless humanity. You know...the same "selfless humanity" who requires moral instruction and can only benefit from it if god presses his ready supply of sacrificial lambs into service 2nd roll: ) but maybe, just maybe, some of them really aren't interested in following the footsteps of Jesus. Maybe some of them aren't interested in teaching the rest of humanity anything...at least not at their own expense. Maybe some of them aren't interested in being anyone's "special angel" either.


Idk......maybe they're just interested in living as decent and dignified a life as possible. Perhaps they could do without the vexatious and insufferable condescension of those who tell them their suffering serves some purpose for "god" and/or others.

There are also none aspies who are that. I doubt all of them have it.

AS is a nature's mistake. Natural selection dislikes it.

Some study showed that only 1% of autistic males get married. Go figure.

I doubt it, I think those statistics are including the whole spectrum which has a lot individuals that simply incapable of handle a relationship of any kind let alone marriage. Besides statistics can be abused so yeah we'll see.

Yeah, I think you should make the time to read it. Maybe an idea for the Christmas holiday?

I've not read Pontoppidan though... don't think it's a book that comes in new editions anymore, but it might be possible to find an ancient copy somewhere.
Kierkegaard is often quite difficult, but I've read something of him during my theological studies (difficult to avoid here. ) Fear and Trembling, eg. That's interesting.

Edit: No, in fact Faith's Mirror has come out as late as 1984, I just saw, so it doesn't have to be a that ancient copy.