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08 May 2018, 6:44 am

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I talk to strange woman all the time


It's considered wrong for at least the last 15 years , you and kraftie should update your social etiquette already.

Stop doing it.


No, it isn't, unless you're referring to some backwards Sharia Law or something.

There is nothing wrong with men initiating conversation with women in public, or anywhere. People do it countless times a day. I observe it. I do it. It's normal.

The only thing to not do is be a jerk, or be rude to someone who clearly isn't interested in conversation of any kind at all because they're busy doing something else etc. But saying hello to a stranger and striking up a conversation is not considered wrong whatsoever.


I don't live under a Sharia law.

The people of the place where I live looks like this http://beiruting.com/Content/Uploads/Ev ... 701673.jpg

Literally.


But I am not convinced that anywhere in the world that it's ok to go around and say hellos to stranger women.


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There is nothing wrong with men initiating conversation with women in public, or anywhere. People do it countless times a day. I observe it. I do it. It's normal.

The only thing to not do is be a jerk, or be rude to someone who clearly isn't interested in conversation of any kind at all because they're busy doing something else etc.


Personally I am seeing no male doing it...... except soem few Syrian refugees whom a lot of women complain about, and it's a rare occurence even still.



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But saying hello to a stranger and striking up a conversation is not considered wrong whatsoever.


In which venues exactly that? Like any girl they see walking down the street? Sorry...but that's something only harassers do.



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08 May 2018, 6:47 am

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I talk to strange woman all the time


It's considered wrong for at least the last 15 years , you and kraftie should update your social etiquette already.

Stop doing it.


No :P

I'm having a INSOCNAIV tattoo done ( Involuntary Socially Naive )


And INSOCNAIV is more likely to end up INCEL...and therefore more likely to end up as INCEL TERRORIST. :twisted:

The future-predicting police should arrest you. :ninja:



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08 May 2018, 6:50 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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I talk to strange woman all the time


It's considered wrong for at least the last 15 years , you and kraftie should update your social etiquette already.

Stop doing it.


No :P

I'm having a INSOCNAIV tattoo done ( Involuntary Socially Naive )


And INSOCNAIV is more likely to end up INCEL...and therefore more likely to end up as INCEL TERRORIST. :twisted:

The future-predicting police should arrest you. :ninja:


If Precrime existed the world would be one big prison :lol:


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08 May 2018, 6:57 am

SaveFerris wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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I talk to strange woman all the time


It's considered wrong for at least the last 15 years , you and kraftie should update your social etiquette already.

Stop doing it.


No :P

I'm having a INSOCNAIV tattoo done ( Involuntary Socially Naive )


And INSOCNAIV is more likely to end up INCEL...and therefore more likely to end up as INCEL TERRORIST. :twisted:

The future-predicting police should arrest you. :ninja:


If Precrime existed the world would be one big prison :lol:



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08 May 2018, 7:01 am

WTAF , I was just googling to see if anyone had an INCEL tattoo and some idiot has tattooed his knob :lmao:

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08 May 2018, 7:05 am

But seriously, the only few men I personally know who claim to have asked women out in public are usually....older men, like in the age of krafie (but they're married now so they never tried it in our days).

My former supervisor in my former job used to boast how in his youth asked out women successfully in the street - he even claimed that he sometimes stopped the car and got out of it just to speak to a hot woman he noticed - and claimed this worked sometimes for him.

Meh....whatever, even if I am gonna buy his stories, i am pretty sure that it has zero chance today to work - i know no self-respecting men of my age range/ generation who ever did so, not even older men. If his was really a thing in the past then it's just in the past.



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08 May 2018, 7:11 am

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But seriously, the only few men I personally know who claim to have asked women out in public are usually....older men, like in the age of krafie (but they're married now so they never tried it in our days).



I don't like being serious but I am in a relationship so when I talk to strange women there is no pretense , If I had to play the dating game again ( which I wouldn't ) I would fall flat on my face.


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08 May 2018, 8:08 am

If a woman has her headphones on, don’t talk to her.

I’ve only asked out a couple of women on a date in public out of the blue. Once, a girl asked me out on the train...but she was a Jesus Freak.

A few times, I spoke to women, and they agreed to come to my apartment. But we didn’t go out on a date. I was rejected every time I asked a woman out on a date on the train.

I haven’t done any of this since the 1980s. The lady in the airport recently knew I married. She had no hotel room or car. I tried to help her get a hotel room separate from mine. No possibility of hanky-panky.

I strike up conversations with people of all genders on the train all the time.



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08 May 2018, 8:22 am

In airplanes, I did strike conversations with the next sitting person sometimes - sometimes they initiate the talk, it happens naturally - i recall i conversed with a young lady (lebanese) all along the way, even told me her name, what she works ...etc; but that was it, I didn't attempt to chase her after landing- The airplane setting is different though, it's safe , cosy, a lot of people around and there are stewardesses watching everything all the time, it's not like the buses and streets.



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08 May 2018, 8:31 am

There’s this Palestinian woman at work. She wears a scarf. She is a religious Muslim. She won’t marry outside her faith.

Still, she has invited me out for dinner. She has friends of many faiths, races, ethnicities. She just trusts that people, in general, have decent morals.

There are women of that ilk who would talk to people on trains. The honor system is always in force with them.



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08 May 2018, 1:39 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Why are men enraged if a woman ignores them in a public place? When I was young & cute, there were men approaching me everywhere. But the rule is: don't talk to strangers. That's all. Why do they blow their stack(s)? If you don't already know my name, then leave me alone. There's a seething hatred in men's response to being ignored - I still don't know why.

"She deserves what she gets." She deserves to be left alone. Also, a woman reading a book is enjoying herself; there is no need to rescue her from it.

"Well then, what did you get all dressed up for?" (1) not for any stranger. (2) jeans, sneakers, and a jacket do not constitute 'all dressed up.' I've always wondered why men think this is a clever thing to say, especially at 10am on a Saturday outside a grocery store.

I would like this conversation to get bigger - for men to say *why* they are angry.



I will tell you why....do you want to know why?

Because only harassers /gangsty guys would talk to women in public - to strangers.

The rest of us minds their own business; unless there's a genuine reason like the lady unawarely dropped an object and you're pointing it out. Otherwise, we don't talk to you.

Literally, it's something we never do in our entire life.

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It's EXTREMELY common that people speak to one another in public, whether idle chit chat conversation or some guy hitting on some woman. Just like males asking females out on dates, it's more common for men to speak to women than the other way around, and it's not only harassers or gangsty guys unless perhaps we're talking about some ultra religious region of the world where men and women sit separately to eat and pray.


uh....WTF?

I am not talking about bars gatherings where people may be introduced to friends of friends.

No, it's not common at all; when I say in public ....i mean public places like the streets, buses, metros, malls; no guys I know would ask out strangers like that in the street out of blue. I've heard these things weren't uncommon in the 40-50s; but we are in 2018 now for god's sake.

I've been observing guys the other day on treadmills and machine in the gym, seriously.... no guy at all is attempting to speak to the girls on the next machines; zero.

Personally the only girls I talk to there are those I knew for years.



Re-read this quoted string. It doesn't even mention a guy asking a girl out. It mentions a guy speaking with a woman he doesn't know in public. Guys asking strange women out as their first communication with them isn't all that common, but it does still happen every once in a while. But as I posted, guys talking with girls in public, striking up a conversation, that's VERY common. And then some of them may ask for a phone number/date if they're interested in that girl before parting ways. That's not that common, and IMO, it's not that common not because it's rude but because people seem to be more socially anxious in general and they don't know how to ask for phone numbers/dates like they used to because so much as shifted online or to apps etc. But people still do this exact process the old fashioned way.. strike up a conversation, share some idle chit chat, request a phone number/facebook contact etc and maybe talk to/see each other later. This isn't some bizarre custom that once occurred 100 years ago and no longer does. It happens more between socially adept people than inept, though.


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08 May 2018, 1:44 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
I talk to strange woman all the time


It's considered wrong for at least the last 15 years , you and kraftie should update your social etiquette already.

Stop doing it.


No, it isn't, unless you're referring to some backwards Sharia Law or something.

There is nothing wrong with men initiating conversation with women in public, or anywhere. People do it countless times a day. I observe it. I do it. It's normal.

The only thing to not do is be a jerk, or be rude to someone who clearly isn't interested in conversation of any kind at all because they're busy doing something else etc. But saying hello to a stranger and striking up a conversation is not considered wrong whatsoever.


I don't live under a Sharia law.

The people of the place where I live looks like this http://beiruting.com/Content/Uploads/Ev ... 701673.jpg

Literally.


But I am not convinced that anywhere in the world that it's ok to go around and say hellos to stranger women.


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There is nothing wrong with men initiating conversation with women in public, or anywhere. People do it countless times a day. I observe it. I do it. It's normal.

The only thing to not do is be a jerk, or be rude to someone who clearly isn't interested in conversation of any kind at all because they're busy doing something else etc.


Personally I am seeing no male doing it...... except soem few Syrian refugees whom a lot of women complain about, and it's a rare occurence even still.



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But saying hello to a stranger and striking up a conversation is not considered wrong whatsoever.


In which venues exactly that? Like any girl they see walking down the street? Sorry...but that's something only harassers do.


Street, park, beach, bus bench, bus, train, grocery store, shopping mall, bar whatever.. public places where you're not being rude by interrupting someone's existing conversation or phone call or whatever. It's very common. People speak to one another all the time. Just don't be a creep about it and it's generally a-okay.

And if a guy were to politely say hello to a woman, and she heard him, and looked away/avoided eye contact and didn't respond politely or at all, she would be considered rude by him for not returning communication and he would be wondering "What's wrong with her?" because grown adults don't hide or run away and shout "stranger danger!" like 6 year old children. They greet one another, talk about whatever's going on in the city, the weather, restaurant recommendations, whatever.. because they're grown adults and know how to have a civil conversation with one another.


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08 May 2018, 1:47 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
But seriously, the only few men I personally know who claim to have asked women out in public are usually....older men, like in the age of krafie (but they're married now so they never tried it in our days).

My former supervisor in my former job used to boast how in his youth asked out women successfully in the street - he even claimed that he sometimes stopped the car and got out of it just to speak to a hot woman he noticed - and claimed this worked sometimes for him.

Meh....whatever, even if I am gonna buy his stories, i am pretty sure that it has zero chance today to work - i know no self-respecting men of my age range/ generation who ever did so, not even older men. If his was really a thing in the past then it's just in the past.


I bet it would work BETTER today because fewer people do it, so a guy would really stand out as confident.

Of course that means being a gentleman about it and not coming across as a creepy weirdo rapist.


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08 May 2018, 1:50 pm

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If a woman has her headphones on, don’t talk to her.

I’ve only asked out a couple of women on a date in public out of the blue. Once, a girl asked me out on the train...but she was a Jesus Freak.

A few times, I spoke to women, and they agreed to come to my apartment. But we didn’t go out on a date. I was rejected every time I asked a woman out on a date on the train.

I haven’t done any of this since the 1980s. The lady in the airport recently knew I married. She had no hotel room or car. I tried to help her get a hotel room separate from mine. No possibility of hanky-panky.

I strike up conversations with people of all genders on the train all the time.


There ya go, kraftie knows exactly what I'm talking about. People talk to other people all the time.


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08 May 2018, 3:51 pm

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But seriously, the only few men I personally know who claim to have asked women out in public are usually....older men, like in the age of krafie (but they're married now so they never tried it in our days).

My former supervisor in my former job used to boast how in his youth asked out women successfully in the street - he even claimed that he sometimes stopped the car and got out of it just to speak to a hot woman he noticed - and claimed this worked sometimes for him.

Meh....whatever, even if I am gonna buy his stories, i am pretty sure that it has zero chance today to work - i know no self-respecting men of my age range/ generation who ever did so, not even older men. If his was really a thing in the past then it's just in the past.


I bet it would work BETTER today because fewer people do it, so a guy would really stand out as confident.

Of course that means being a gentleman about it and not coming across as a creepy weirdo rapist.



You’re so stubborn honestly and you’re giving a very bad advice to guys here.

There’s no way in hell one wouldn’t come across as a creep weirdo if he asks a girl he just saw in the street. No matter how gentlemanly he talks.

Most relationships start via friendship and socializations but I know no relationship started in the street; at least for the heterosexual ones.

Get back to reality and stop giving out advice that would be acceptable only in La La lands.

Seriously, stop it.



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08 May 2018, 3:56 pm

I'm with Boo on this one. Being chatted up by guys on the street is creepy. It will very easily make women uncomfortable and nervous about not getting away from him.
Just don't.


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