What stops you from committing suicide?

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31 May 2019, 4:54 am

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I suppose the need to know that I've tried everything I could to treat my chronic illnesses(they are reason I am suicidal) before I finally kill myself. Eventually I will run out of treatment options, my illnesses will become untreatable, I won't be able to eat or sleep, life will be pure torture and at that point rather than drag it out, I will just hang myself. Every treatment eventually stops working, my illnesses adapt and get worse over time and there are only so many treatments to try before its a lost cause. I've pretty much accepted that I won't live much longer. As much as I would prefer to have a life, a part of me will be glad that after 14 years of this s**t it will finally be over. If one day I stop posting here, it will be because I'm dead.



When I read something like this I begin to wonder what right I have to feel suicidal. It's messed up that the human body can still produce an overwhelming desire to terminate itself when it's still in reasonably good working order. I hope you can come to terms with your health issues so that you can slip out peacefully, maybe that will come when you no longer have any reason to cling on. We're all going to have to face death at some point and the last line of your post is true for all of us.



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31 May 2019, 2:37 pm

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When I read something like this I begin to wonder what right I have to feel suicidal.


I'm afraid that feeling suicidal is often a luxury problem just because of loneliness and missing targets in life.
Instead of doing suicide search a new target like to visit each other or visit other countries or doing arts or science or to become a lot stronger and to get in contact to new people. Life is a unique gift that you shouldn't give away as easily.


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31 May 2019, 6:12 pm

The only thing that stops me is the fear of not existing once I'm dead.

But if things get really bad and we end up in a World War 3 or Second American Civil War I'll have no choice but to end my own life if I get drafted because I REFUSE to ever fight in such a BS war!


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02 Jun 2019, 10:52 am

After losing my gf, I honestly have no clue at this point. Maybe fear of death? Too much of a p**** to know when to give up? Or maybe too stupid.

I mean, when your own family doesnt care for you, constant reminders that life without you results in a better life for everyone around you, there comes a time when trying to keep going is a lesson in stupidity, stubbornness, or just plain masochism.


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02 Jun 2019, 10:55 am

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After losing my gf, I honestly have no clue at this point. Maybe fear of death? Too much of a p**** to know when to give up? Or maybe too stupid.
Or maybe too smart.

Suicide is cowardice.

Living takes bravery.


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After losing my gf, I honestly have no clue at this point. Maybe fear of death? Too much of a p**** to know when to give up? Or maybe too stupid.
Or maybe too smart.

Suicide is cowardice.

Living takes bravery.

Lol, says who? Maybe if you have something to live for, okay, you're right. When you literally have nothing left though, or worse, when you being gone from people's lives results in their lives getting better every single time, then what?

"Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting different results."

You fail once. That's ok. You fall down once that's ok.

You fall down over and over...


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02 Jun 2019, 11:04 am

My very being, hope in God, hope for connection, fear of my idiocy(judgement), my loved ones



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02 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

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You fall down over and over...

Isn't it how toddlers learn to walk?


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02 Jun 2019, 11:11 am

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You fall down over and over...

Isn't it how toddlers learn to walk?


What I mean is that most advice columns that tell you how to get up from hitting rock bottom only expect you to be there ONCE. Most anti-suicide articles/pages I've been to have told me that everyone fails in life... ONCE.

Problem is for me, I fail and hit rock bottom on a yearly basis, no matter how much I try, to a point everyone I know has given up on me. Those that leave me go on FB and show how much better their lives are because of it. My own family told me after I left the house 10 years ago there have been no problems since. All my exes have gone on to live better lives. All my ex-friends have lived better lives. So on top of failure, having Asperger's, Crohn's, and a possible cancer diagnosis, if I didn't exist, everyone would be better off without me.

So how is suicide cowardice at that point? Especially when a big reason for me is FEARING death, which in itself is cowardice? Especially when my very existence causes problems for everyone around me?


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02 Jun 2019, 11:18 am

I fall every 4 years or so. Sort of got used to it.

Never trust f-book profiles, people create visions of their happy lifes specially for this purpose.
Do you live in US? I think it's a social norm there to pretend that everybody is happy and problem-free. That probably contributes to the depression epidemic - it's impossible never to be sad!


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02 Jun 2019, 11:18 am

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I fall every 4 years or so. Sort of got used to it.

Never trust f-book profiles, people create visions of their happy lifes specially for this purpose.
Do you live in US? I think it's a social norm there to pretend that everybody is happy and problem-free. That probably contributes to the depression epidemic - it's impossible never to be sad!


Yes I live in the US.


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02 Jun 2019, 11:18 am

One of the bravest, toughest, adventurous people I've ever met in my life committed suicide. She overcame anxieties to explore the world. She overcame a fear of heights to walk along narrow ridges to summit a mountain at 6600 feet. To suicide is the "cowards way out" is simply not understanding the nature of depression. It's a disease. You fight the good fight until you no longer have the strength to fight it -- like any other disease.


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One of the bravest, toughest, adventurous people I've ever met in my life committed suicide. She overcame anxieties to explore the world. She overcame a fear of heights to walk along narrow ridges to summit a mountain at 6600 feet. To suicide is the "cowards way out" is simply not understanding the nature of depression. It's a disease. You fight the good fight until you no longer have the strength to fight it -- like any other disease.


I admit I fail to understand how those that have it so well get so depressed/suicidal. I hear like chemical imbalances, etc, but I have seen and experienced people who look like they've got it made where if I had half of the luck and support they had I probably would be smiling ear to ear each morning, yet you hear they kill themselves. It's weird, and I feel like maybe if some people are reminded of the good things that they actually have (if they have good things, not like me), they would feel differently.


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02 Jun 2019, 11:56 am

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02 Jun 2019, 5:42 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
One of the bravest, toughest, adventurous people I've ever met in my life committed suicide. She overcame anxieties to explore the world. She overcame a fear of heights to walk along narrow ridges to summit a mountain at 6600 feet. To suicide is the "cowards way out" is simply not understanding the nature of depression. It's a disease. You fight the good fight until you no longer have the strength to fight it -- like any other disease.





You can't measure courage


Everyone has a different situation


Some people claim they "would never" commit suicide


But they could not imagine all the situations


Precious lil "people" that have the nerve to tell me "you have nothing to be depressed over", or "why are you depressed?", Or "try to get better". Do not understand. (But nobody knows everything. Everyone is ignorant).


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The problem is that they act like they know, but they do not know



Then they judge you and act like depression is a moral flaw




f**k those lil dips**ts








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