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06 Sep 2007, 4:23 pm

I hope this isn't a personal question, but is there anyone you can talk to, in RL? Any family, or friends?

Edit: I just read your original post... is it really that bad?



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06 Sep 2007, 4:28 pm

Well actually it is, but nobody takes anything I say seriously, even with unrelated things it's like people never take anything I say seriously even if I'm the most rational person there (which I usually am). I've lived my life isolated, on the outside looking in, this is where much of my moral wisdom comes from, not to brag or sound egotistical.



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06 Sep 2007, 4:40 pm

I really wish I knew what kind of help you need...

I know that in these situations, being told what to think and do isn't always that helpful.



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10 Sep 2007, 7:42 pm

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How old are you, snake?

Snake is >21 (if I remember right)

I was wondering, some Aussies go to Thailand on "sex tours" (sex-a-thons holidays).

Do Americans to go to Mexico for "sex holidays" (low cost prostitutes) ?



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10 Sep 2007, 10:57 pm

Americans go to Vegas.



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12 Sep 2007, 2:43 pm

Mexico probably has low-cost prostitutes. Vegas has high cost prostitutes. I can absolutely guarantee you that there is no place in the world like Thailand.



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12 Sep 2007, 6:21 pm

snake321 wrote:
do not badger me, patronize me, or talk s**t to me.

No Worries, none of us will do that.

I, myself (probably because I am AS), would never go out with a person who thrives on chit chat or silly social riff raff... You should find a person who loves you for who you are. There are people out there who love uncondiationally, we just need the time and the patience to seek for them.

NB: I have gone accustomed to not having any "friend", although, at times I did try... Perhaps, by being AS, I wasn't sucessful... But, personally, I don't mind having no one in my life (I sometimes, belive it or not, priase solitude).

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The key is to understand that happiness does not come from other people. It has to come from you.

I agree... snake123. You may want to try this, try being happy and love your self, then others will start loving (and respect) you.

:arrow: sometimes solutions to problems are found in the most awkward of places (e.g. Opera Winfery Show for instance).

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1... some people choose not to have sex ...
2... why not just masturbate ...

1. like monks...
2. I don't have an opinion on this... (but some say it is a sin??)

NB: In my opinion, animals reproduce as a need to safeguard their species. They are in no way so lustful, or are in desperate need to search for a partner (lust is a sin).

By the way, suicide adds problems (to the living community, as friends or loved ones), by merely not solving any problems... If loved ones can't help, there may be other ways to seek help. I think that the "happiness" must come from within... And one day the "crippled" one may just stand up and walk... owing the respect is s/he undergoes such a task (esp. if s/he willingly decides to just stand and walk, or no matter what reach goals)

:arrow: usually in forums, two or three posts following each other are not recommended. An "editing" button exists in the top right corner (near the "arrow" button), and should be used to edit/ correct messages (i.e. adding on, or deleting some of the contents).



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12 Sep 2007, 6:32 pm

I'd like to see more light and less heat on the gender question.

There should be as many aspie females as males unless the genetic mechanism is carried on the sex chromosomes or the condition is somehow triggered by hormones, and most inherited conditions are not.

Humans, male and female are a group living species. No where in the world, never in history, does a population of humans live as individuals alone.

I would expect that both males and females have a similarly intense need for the companionship of their own species. Sex is one manifestation of that, but not the only one.

I ain't the only one that's got problems.


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12 Sep 2007, 7:16 pm

NB: Sexual impulses can be controlled, like smoking, or drinking...



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13 Sep 2007, 1:57 pm

Duku wrote:
NB: Sexual impulses can be controlled, like smoking, or drinking...


Smoking and drinking are unnatural impulses. The best way to prevent the smoking impulse is never to smoke in the first place.

The sexual impulse is different.



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13 Sep 2007, 3:51 pm

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I am afraid of growing old alone and alienated. I would rather not grow old than grow old that way. Nothing I do seems to work to attract women, I've tried lowering my standards, I've tried looking for girls with similar interests, I've done all those mundane suggestions and none of them work.
If I have not found someone by yesterday's time next year (my birthday), I will take my life, on the same day I was born. Possibly in front of a large audience so I can make a big statement, for all those of us who are going through this. All my life, I have been made to think that I'm not good enough for basic human compassion, intimacy, or contact. Like I'm some sort of diseased freak of nature. I gather all my confidence that this ableist society has systematically beaten out of me, I gather it and ask women whom I take interest in, in the nicest way I can find, I ask them out. And always I get the same replies "ewwww, your weird" or "go away freak" or she says nothing and hides behind some other guy, or at worst case scenario she plays along like she's interested just to lead me on and drop me like a bad habit.
As if that wasn't enough, people stigmatize me for not being able to get it, men, women, and all alike, I'm segregated and excluded on a societal level, silently condemned, this isn't the life I had in mind.
If this is how I will grow old, I will make it very simple, I will refuse to grow old, I will just end it all. And f**k my parents and counselors and all those other NT bastards that are themselves so afraid of being isolated that theyr unable to have an original thought, but tell me to "just deal with it". There is only one word for this attitude, hypocracy.
If I haven't beaten the odds by this time next year, on my birthday, I will take my own life.


All I have to say is... I hear you, understand and was thinking the exact same thing last night. At least for me, it's not a sexual thing. I've no great hatred for anyone or anything. It's the whole... is this all there is to look forward to? Nothing worse then being alone.



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14 Sep 2007, 9:18 pm

Duku wrote:
snake321 wrote:
do not badger me, patronize me, or talk sh** to me.

No Worries, none of us will do that.

I, myself (probably because I am AS), would never go out with a person who thrives on chit chat or silly social riff raff... You should find a person who loves you for who you are. There are people out there who love uncondiationally, we just need the time and the patience to seek for them.

NB: I have gone accustomed to not having any "friend", although, at times I did try... Perhaps, by being AS, I wasn't sucessful... But, personally, I don't mind having no one in my life (I sometimes, belive it or not, priase solitude).

Quote:
The key is to understand that happiness does not come from other people. It has to come from you.

I agree... snake123. You may want to try this, try being happy and love your self, then others will start loving (and respect) you.

:arrow: sometimes solutions to problems are found in the most awkward of places (e.g. Opera Winfery Show for instance).

Quote:
1... some people choose not to have sex ...
2... why not just masturbate ...

1. like monks...
2. I don't have an opinion on this... (but some say it is a sin??)

NB: In my opinion, animals reproduce as a need to safeguard their species. They are in no way so lustful, or are in desperate need to search for a partner (lust is a sin).

By the way, suicide adds problems (to the living community, as friends or loved ones), by merely not solving any problems... If loved ones can't help, there may be other ways to seek help. I think that the "happiness" must come from within... And one day the "crippled" one may just stand up and walk... owing the respect is s/he undergoes such a task (esp. if s/he willingly decides to just stand and walk, or no matter what reach goals)

:arrow: usually in forums, two or three posts following each other are not recommended. An "editing" button exists in the top right corner (near the "arrow" button), and should be used to edit/ correct messages (i.e. adding on, or deleting some of the contents).


Like I said, some women choose not to eat. Does this mean food isn't a need because some women choose to be anorexic?



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15 Sep 2007, 5:07 pm

I do know a little bit about growing old, although I'm not that old.

You remain the same person. In my experience, it ain't no worse than being young.

My youth wasn't "the best years of my life." Some times have been better than others, but my age wasn't a factor.


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15 Sep 2007, 11:08 pm

snake321 wrote:
If I have not found someone by yesterday's time next year (my birthday), I will take my life, on the same day I was born. Possibly in front of a large audience so I can make a big statement, for all those of us who are going through this. or at worst case scenario she plays along like she's interested just to lead me on and drop me like a bad habit.
As if that wasn't enough, people stigmatize me for not being able to get it, men, women, and all alike, I'm segregated and excluded on a societal level, silently condemned, this isn't the life I had in mind.
If this is how I will grow old, I will make it very simple, I will refuse to grow old, I will just end it all. And f**k my parents and counselors and all those other NT bastards that are themselves so afraid of being isolated that theyr unable to have an original thought, but tell me to "just deal with it". There is only one word for this attitude, hypocracy.
If I haven't beaten the odds by this time next year, on my birthday, I will take my own life.


I know how you feel, brother.

I am angry too, for the same reasons you are. I have constantly been getting dropped by girls who have led me on. They won't even be friends with me.

My parents and therapists tell me that "she's not worth ruining your life over"..."it will happen"...blah blah blah...

It's easy for them to say! My parents were each other's first and only love! Right out of a f*****g fairy tale. That's just BS! They have not right to tell me not to be madly obsessed over a girl, when my parents knew each other since the age of 4! They started dating in highschool, for f**k sakes!

Hypocracy!

If I am alone and a virgin by 25, I'll kill myself too, in a very public and drastic way. I'm 19, now.

How old are you?



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16 Sep 2007, 12:07 am

pandabear wrote:
Duku wrote:
NB: Sexual impulses can be controlled, like smoking, or drinking...


Smoking and drinking are unnatural impulses. The best way to prevent the smoking impulse is never to smoke in the first place.

The sexual impulse is different.

It is indeed. Smoking can be avoided by never starting. And Yes, sexual impulse is different, and it can be controlled. (e.g. look at monks, they can efrain from such action, can't they?)

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Like I said, some women choose not to eat. Does this mean food isn't a need because some women choose to be anorexic?

soi you have,mind you anorexia is a disease

NB: In this topic, you'd be suprised on the age of some of the virgins. Being one at 40, or 80 is no shame... (it would be a shame if we'd force ourselves to be bullied by what others think). That's how I think. I can very well be 70 and still not have a relationship. Then again, no one kows.



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16 Sep 2007, 10:04 am

Welcome to my world. My parents can try until their life is sucked out of them and still can not understand. And what sucks even more, is I have to explain it.

I know that I'm going to have a rough night tonight. I already started to go on their last nerves.

But to help you out, try not to kill yourself. If there isn't anyone that has Asperger's around your area. Then go try to find one somewhere. Say if it's a state away or somewhat, you can plan this as a little vacation for yourself.


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