KitLily wrote:
I think it's also hygienic for people to put the toilet seat down. Things can fall in the toilet if the lid is up and you shouldn't flush the chain with the lid up as germs can fly upwards.
Luckily in our household we have two women and one man so he knows to leave the seat and lid down

So here's the real debate:
Seat and lid down
Seat down, lid up
Who cares, it's not a big deal to change?
I once saw a man lecture his girlfriend's daughter to leave the seat
up.
Worse, this was in
her home, not his.
I scolded him, I couldn't not. I'm not just disagreeable online ya know.
About a decade later I had to work with him as a boss.
That moment the theme from Curb Your Enthusiasm starts.
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