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27 Jun 2023, 1:07 pm

I don't know about you lot but I think this has been a nice chinwag


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27 Jun 2023, 1:08 pm

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^ How do you know that it wouldn’t offend people offline?

Normally, people don’t admit to being offended or to having hurt feelings. People tend to be more open about that online.


Because body language and other hidden cues. Like when I once did offend a colleague, who was a young mum, by calling children brats in a rant. She actually laughed at the word like she was amused, but something told me she was actually offended, and it turned out I was right, as she seemed hostile towards me ever since, as in not talking to me.

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Trauma is trauma ultimately and you should never minimise what you have been through in comparison to what others have been through.

Yes but me being targeted by bullies, dumped nastily by people I thought were my friends, and socially rejected and treated tactlessly by strangers, seems nothing compared to what people like Twilightprincess and Isabellalinton have been through. I even feel guilty that intense stuff like that hasn't happened to me.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:10 pm

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I say things online (especially when as now I've had a few drinks) that I wouldn't dream of saying in person. I am so crap socially that I get very frustrated and online sometimes it boils over. Not too often on here thankfully but I've been banned from Digital Spy after getting into a heated argument about Gary Lineker and immigration.


This is exactly my problem. Thanks for putting it into better words.
Although I've never been banned from anywhere before, not even on Facebook. But Facebook's rules are more relaxed and there are more right-wing folk there who post what I'm thinking so generally I join in and get loads of likes for it.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:11 pm

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I actually think he was doing his best to make us feel awkward so we would leave and he and his friends could have our cosy booth. He failed.


And we are the ones who don't know the unwritten rules? First come, first serve, GTFO :lol:


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27 Jun 2023, 1:13 pm

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I don't know about you lot but I think this has been a nice chinwag


Yeah I like it when this happens.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:14 pm

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I don't know about you lot but I think this has been a nice chinwag


Yeah I like it when this happens.


Me too. No bickering or shaming or blaming or name-calling, just civil back and forth discussion between us as WP friends. :) :heart:


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27 Jun 2023, 1:15 pm

Most people are very good at hiding when they are offended about something. I certainly am! It’s not always noticeable even though it sometimes is. All of us are also people offline, so it’s not like this is just an online thing.

Anyway, yes, I’ve had some awful experiences. It doesn’t mean that I’m not also bothered by less extreme experiences, like losing friendships or inadvertently making a fool of myself in some way.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:28 pm

Actually being bullied when you're too small or socially capable is really traumatic and should never be minimised

I went to this dance academy thing when I was younger and everyone there started singing "how much is that doggy in the window" at me. I was set up but my supposedly best friend from school. I was totally humiliated by the situation so much so that I dared never tell anyone about it. I only said it out loud to my T 2 weeks ago for the first time. It was like a nightmare scenario for me at the time and it still is to a certain extent.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:34 pm

I am of the opinion that people who are ASD/ADHD suffer PTSD at a much higher rate than NT's due to a neurological vulnerability. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm sure it's 4? times more likely to have PTSD with just ADHD alone.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:35 pm

^ I think we’re much more likely to experience traumatic events. I’m not saying that neurological factors don’t also play a role.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:36 pm

^ That too.

Perhaps I should explain, I was trying to say that you are much more likely to get PTSD from being bullied than an NT.


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27 Jun 2023, 1:56 pm

Just being alive with ASD is traumatic, in terms of feeling like you don't belong on the planet and having such acute awareness of everything ... all the time ... no matter what .... even if you can't name it (sensory, social, emotional, interoception, self-concept). Of course bullying and social failure make it worse. If you also have ADHD those thoughts and unnamed feelings ruminate at warp speed until we're a hot mess.

Then add our increased risk of victimisation.

I have some links somewhere about trauma and ASD / ADHD but can't look them up right now because I'm still in agony from a whiff of perfumed cat litter several hours ago, because that's how overwhelming and debilitating SPD can be.


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27 Jun 2023, 2:05 pm

I think it definitely depends on the person. I’ve had some experiences, like physical bullying and a car accident, that might have really traumatized some people, but they didn’t impact me that much. Other experiences caused my PTSD.

I guess trauma is like pain; we all experience it differently.


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27 Jun 2023, 2:18 pm

I don't get into fights offline. I'm way too timid for that. Although I did lay into someone once. I was 15, walking home from school, and these two boys were walking very close up behind me and one of them kept touching my butt. I asked them to please stop but they carried on, so a surge of frustration whipped through me and I impulsively went for him. I didn't hurt him, I just attacked him, as in pummeling him all over. He seemed alarmed by my sudden reaction and he pushed me into the road where I nearly got hit by a car but it slowed down just in time.
Even though it happened nearly 20 years ago, I still worry about it, in case it might have just been his bag touching my butt or something. But nothing else happened following the incident so I think he was guilty of touching my butt otherwise he would have probably went and taken it further like telling the principal I assaulted him or something, but he didn't.
But I think I'd had enough, as I was often bullied or sexually harassed by boys whilst walking home from school, and was also bullied by my own friends in school at the time, and because I was in the oldest grade in the school by then I didn't want to be the weak pathetic kid I used to be that let people walk all over me. I'd had enough.

But I've never lashed out at anyone since.


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27 Jun 2023, 2:36 pm

Sexual harassment is incredibly traumatic


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27 Jun 2023, 2:39 pm

The only thing I've had that could be classed as sexual harrassment is a girl at work asking me to leave my lab coat open so she could look at my bulge. She was a bit cock obsessed. I have to admit I found it a bit of a turn on..

Also had a girl at work come up behind me and pretend to shag me from behind. Again, didn't bother me.


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