Can they have a trial behind your back

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Im not crazy and I am not hearing voices. for some reason maby some things I said they havent directly talked to me about things and instructed my mother not to talk about or egnoledge what is going on. I am telling you and you have to trust me that I am not crazy. I am not hearing things. trust me

You are. Trust ME. All these people cannot know about what you did and know about a trial that even you have not been notified of. They cannot ALL be talking around you about you like this. The people next door, and the strangers walking outside your window don't know anything about your alleged indiscretion years ago. They don't know what you are thinking. Given this, they cannot be telling you the things you are hearing. NOT POSSIBLE. THINK. They are not sitting around in their apartment next door talking about you non-stop. Who does that? They are not walking outside your window saying things about a trial. How can they be?

If these people are really saying these things out loud for you to hear then they are reading your mind. That is the only way they can know. Are they reading your mind? Does it sound reasonable to you that they are reading your mind?

does anybody know of any lawers on wrong planet to talk with me? I need to talk with a lawer about these things. please message a person that is a lawer

Go to the hospital anyway. The fact is these events whether real or imagined are obviously very distressing to you and at this point the anxiety is endangering your health and well-being. You need to get medical attention for the anxiety this is all causing you regardless of any other factor.

As it happens I am able to confirm that there has been no trial. I do not know why people passing outside your window would think otherwise, or even how they know you exist in order to make comments about you. I have no idea why your neighbours would be so obsessively interested in you that they would behave as you describe, but I can tell you that they do not have access to the information you claim they are discussing in your hearing.

As for your mother, she cannot acknowledge this trial without lying. She has not been informed of any trial and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying or mistaken.

EDIT: I am not a practicing lawyer, but I do have legal training.

the police can wire tap your computer with a virus so they can tell what I am typing. and the people outside are from the apartments. people watching me because they think I am a danger like the police could be next door watching me.

it is just deductive reasoning Darrell. We know by research/ experience, etc, that there was not trial and that people cannot possibly be sitting in the apartment next door talking about you so loudly that you can hear them. They aren't talking about you as they pass by your window. How can they be ? I know you are anxious right now but, even so, you can see the logic of this, you can understand that this cannot be true.

Darrell- you think that the cops are looking for you to lock you up right? If you knew this were true beyond a shadow of a doubt, wouldn't you turn yourself in? You would go to them and turn yourself in, right? That would be the right thing to do.

If you were to go to them right now and tell them, "here I am put me away", they wouldn't do it. They would take you to the hospital right away. Maybe that is what you should do- turn yourself in. Do that or save time and go straight to the hospital.

You are not crazy, but something is not right in your brain right now and you need some help. Even if it is just for your anxiety, go to the hospital, as Pandd said.

You are from Oregan?

The entire legal fraternity would be abuzz with gossip, there would be no way to keep it quiet even if it were not public.

There are a lot of people in a court for it to function. There are sworn officers of the court (bailifs), clerical support workers, the judge of course, and there must be legal representation for both parties (in this case the parties would be yourself and the State of Oregan or the Federal Government). To keep the matter secret would require issuing an injunction, and ironically this would increase the number of people who would know of this incident. It is so sensational and would serve as such enticing legal gossip that everyone in the legal fraternity in Oregan would know before close of business hours the same day, and everyone in the US legal fraternity would know before start of business the next day.

Additionally, the reason you claim to know about this case is that all these other people are talking about it around you. Trust me, if they knew it had happened, so would everyone in the legal fraternity, not just in Oregan, but throughout the US. This case is entirely unknown to the legal fraternity, ergo it has not occurred.

The courts could not expect your mother to keep quiet about the matter even with an injunction as most people in your mother's situation would sue, sue, sue. The courts would expect your mother to sue (even if she personally would not, the courts would just expect anyone to), so they would not give her this information in these circumstances, so she knows nothing about any trial.

As I say, I can confirm it has not occurred. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or mistaken.

how often are trials by absentia occor in oregon anyway?

Ive said it earlyer what if my mother pleabargend my case to taking those pills to shrivil my balls and I didnt take them on time. what whould the concequences to breaking a plea deal be? I thought I was in for porn charges back then and stopped taking the pill that was painfull and kept trying to talk but no one would talk to me.

and it isnt wether it is secreat it is wether I was informed and was allowed to be present.

Only a defendant can make a plea deal. You cannot break a plea deal you did not authorize.

Trials in absentia are not that common generally, but I cannot give you the exact statistic for Oregon.

As to whether it is a secret, this kind of secret really cannot be kept, which is how I can confirm that no trial of this nature has occurred.

Your mother for instance cannot make a plea deal on your behalf and if she could get information from the courts due to being part of the proceedings, then she would be obstructing justice (a serious criminal offence) by not revealiing your whereabouts to the courts. There is no way a judge would accept that someone knows where you are and can accept a plea deal for you to take pills, but will not tell the courts where you are. She has no authority to enter pleas on your behalf and the courts would not place their trust in someone who will not reveal your whereabouts, nor try someone in absentia when they know their whereabouts and it is within their jurisdiction.

There is simply no way in the circumstances for anyone to plea on your behalf in any capacity, nor any circumstances that merit an in absentia trial according to current precedent. Any new precedent in this area extending the State's right to proceed without the presence of, and a defence participated in by the defendant would be big big news (it would alter the law drastically).

There is no talk of any such new precedent or case like this, so it has not happened.

even in cases whene the defendant is considered emotionally or mentally incompitant to stand trial? or somthing like that?

I cant think of any other possibility tonight of why they have been saying the things that they have been saying. I dont know why they say that my case has already been heard and that I am getting fourty years. I dont know how it is happening. All I know is that I am really scared. thank you. maby later I will think of somthing and continue with this thread and worry until I get more posts. All I know is that posts that say that I am crazy and dont give logical analysis of how it is not possible usually upset me cause I know I am hearing what I am hearing. I just hope that the people posting are not my naibors pulling my chain. I am really scared and dont know what is going on. I hope that it is not too late. I am trying not to go insane. I cant handle this. forty years is too much punishment for the things that I have done in my entire life. I dont know what I will do if it is true. I hope that they have a hart and understand that I am a human and I dont realize all of the things happening in the world and I dont have the ability to comprehend everything that there is. I most certanly had a time in my life whene I was compleatly without hope for a futer and was just wollowing along and that was the way I was for all of my life until I started to chainge whene I was a junior in highschool. it was then that I started to walk to school and loose the waight that made me a fatso that hated myself.

I have tryed to stay on the right path but I always stray in the area's that I fail and the place I failed was porn. I tryed many times to get ride of it. I even made a promise to god that if he healed my stepfather I would get rid of all of it. I forgot that pleadge and I failed and he die'd. I still feel guilty about that because for a time the cancer in his lungs srank and it looked as if he may have pulled through. but then they found some in his brian and the growth in his lungs came back and there was no hope left. I failed and like all the other times that I failed I just shut my emotions off and tryed not to think about things.

the things going on right now are really in my face emminant and I cant cope with them. I cant shut them out. I have tryed but they are like I am dieing and I cant think of anything else for any period of time. I feel really scared and wish this was all a dream. I made mistakes in my past and they are judging me based on the fact that I had porn on my computer and that ment I was a threat. I am really scared and have no way of acting in an appropreat manner to my extream fear. I dont know what to do. I am always in a panic I am always thinking that if I am going to go to prison for fourty years will god kill me and bring me to heaven so that I dont have to suffer. I am scared. I dont know what to do. but I feel a little better after each logical argument that people bring to me on this forum as to how I could not have been tryed for a crime behind my back. I am trying to relax and I even started to play oblivion on my computer again but I felt I should type this to say how far I am and to thank those that have talked with me and to ask you to keep talking to me on this thread cause I am still a little scared. I hope that you have read this. bye for now.

Hi Darrell, I'm awake again for a while. It's 2am here.

I wrote to my friend about you. She's a PhD psychologist. She says you need to talk to the person who prescribed the Risperdal.

Darrell, I have tried to stick with you as long as I was awake, I googled things that might help you, I even prayed a rosary for you. Listen to me, please: there is only one place that you will be safe, and that's the hospital. Call 911 and they will take you.

What happens if you stay where you are? Everything goes on the same.
What happens if you call 911? They will take you to a safe place where you can rest.
If you don't like it, you can leave, because you went voluntarily.
It's really, really worth a try. Please! Do this thing to help yourself, it will work.