Still so Lonely and added stress of work and threat of losin

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Most maybe.

What I use to think was value many don't see it as such or its outweighed by my dis values.

Well, that fact alone attests that many people do not view in such a negative light that you may perceive yourself to be in. Maybe you should examine the views you hold about yourself in a more realistic fashion. Do you think that self-perception is wholly accurate?

I have some leftover 5htp and sam-e. Both are things the body naturally produces, can be used as anti-depressants, and are available over the counter. If you want, pm me an address (work or other) and i can send them to you to try. It would cost you nothing, no doctor records involved, and it just might help change how the world looks - enough that a girl may say more than how great you'd be for someone else.

People on wp are similar to family. You'd never tell your son he's but ugly you'd lie and say he's handsome.

People in the real world so aren't friends or family don't have that obligation to protect my feelings, so they say it how it is. Unless some woman on here wants to date me no amount of good words will ever help me find a gf in the real world where everyone sees me as ugly and worthless.

You're married yes? Guessing you never had to date in today's modern superficial blunt world. Women list what makes a real man on their profiles anything else is worthless trash.

I am and never will be a provider. I'll never make $30 an hour. I can't even handle working more then 6 hours a day. So I'm limited to part time jobs. I have so few money to live off. Even some people on here admit I'll never find s gf til I man up and get my life in order meaning get s better paying job. Well that won't happen. Better paying jobs are all full time, and require experience, I don't even have experience or possibility to gain any to move to another department in the store I work at. So I'm stuck where I'm at til they fire me.

All of which would be fine if not for that women see it as a big red flag and me as worthless. I also have huge debt from going to college. So I can never marry or live with someone as eventually my debt would become her debt which is stupid law. Just the tip of the iceberg. My life is quite f****d up and has been so since I was born. World likes to destroy people who are different.

Would you fireflies. Date a guy working part time earning 9.50 an hour and has 20k in debt?

I don't even make any money from the job. The $80 a month I get is from family. All the money from the job goes to paying to get to it and food.

Cost me $55 a month to be able to just get to and from the place.
Then ssi,housing, food stamps all take their cuts, and taxes take 30% of it. Right out the bat 70% of what I make is gone. Then housing takes their cut, then food stamps is lowered . I'm actually going $250 negative in February. For a job that pays me before everyone's cut only $750 a month.

When I held a job I made about 25.50 (may have been 25 if I am not mistaken, it has been a few years) though I quit in order to pursue some academic interests. Yes I have been married for two years, and am about to be a father soon!

You mentioned you finished college? Maybe you should look for a job that requires the skills for your major. What did you major in? I did math and physics and then law.

Wife isn't upset you left a well paying job and now make nothing?

I got a degree in automotive. And that's no job for a aspie with hearing and touch sensitivity, anxiety, and social issues.
You have to get dirty, hurt yourself often, yell at each other, make loud noises, work 50-80 hours a week, and have to be super super fast.

As I mentioned I had other academic pursuits I wanted to seek and complete first. I kind of regret it though, and I will probably resume job searching later this year when I find time.

As an aspie I too have tough sensitivity, especially with fleece

I am however a pretty theory based person, I cannot for instance build a moter, although I know sure how to design one. AC or DC moter, mind you. They teach moter building when you take courses in magnetism in physics.I don't anything about automotive, except pressing the clutch changing the gears and obeying traffic laws.

I'm not smart in that way.

School was way different then actual life. In school you had a partner, teacher and could take your time. Real life it's just you and you have to move super fast to make money. Your paid based on how long job should take not on how long it actually takes. It also has to be done perfectly.

Too late for me anyways
No way to have the early 20s fun relationship I desire

For me, relationships in my 30's were much more fun than relationships in my 20's.

would I date Any guy who made that? no. but i also wouldn't date Any guy who made 200k.

would i date a guy i liked and seemed compatible with that made that? yes. and i have.

holding hands in a park is free. watching a sunset is free. sitting on a couch cuddling and watching a movie; camping; being in the woods; building a snow fort; sitting by a fire; watching the stars; noticing the intricate, lacy details of a leaf that has composted so all that is left is the delicate vein structure; watching the birds and clouds; eating freshly picked berries in the summer and drinking hot chocolate in the winter.. these are the good things in life. and they don't cost much.
if i have a car and they don't, then i can drive. vice versa, they can drive. and if neither of us do, then we bus or don't go far.

i'm not going to say that all women would. some women want x, and some men want x..but not all women..nor all men want the same.

the only time that i outright wouldn't date someone because of what they made is if i felt like he was just looking for a sugar momma...i don't want to be in a relationship to just be a provider for someone..but if i'm in a relationship, not as above, and i make more, then that's fine. and if i make less, that's fine.

when it comes to things like online dating, i may check a minimum income box...and that may throw away viable candidates. my attempt is that i don't want to find someone looking for a provider, someone who wants to just be fed and homed and sexed while i work. but in the end, with that check box, i also end up tossing out some good ones.

similarly, i'll check the college degree box - trying to find intelligent people, but there are smart people who never went to college and that box excludes them. it's trying to play the odds, but it's a no-win.

in person though, there are no check boxes and you meet them as-is...if they're smart, they're smart, with or without a degree. and whatever they make is whatever they make. you don't have a conversation with a wallet or degree, you have a conversation with the person.

all that said though, my ideal guy - someone like fox mulder. he's intelligent, loyal and committed, attractive.. add in the heart of someone who would never boil a live lobster, nor hunt for "sport", and would go in a burning building to save a puppy and just for your argument, say he makes 150k/yr. if, when i first met him, he was drowning in negative and no matter what i said, it didn't help and he wouldn't take steps to get himself out, despite being my seemingly ideal guy, i couldn't be with him.

i would relate and understand where he's at, but even though i could relate to how he was feeling, and could see there's a great guy underneath what he sees, i couldn't start a relationship with him. i know if i did, i'd start feeling depressed. i'd get emotionally invested and yet still wouldn't be able to convince him or help him see the good in life and in himself. i would end up tired and frustrated and hurt and splitting up because i couldn't do it. (If his mindset happened after being together for a while, i'd of course want and try to help and stay with him, but it would be very hard... so if not yet invested, it's a deal breaker).

so yeah, i would date someone who made that. i would (have) date(d) someone who makes a lot or someone who is on disability and makes very little. my interest in a relationship is about who they are and how they make me feel when i'm around them, not what they can buy for me.

my autistic nephew had NO income and totally relied on his mom while dating a young woman on benefits.

You're a rare woman.
I'll reply more when I get home. 2 minutes left of my break

It's a good criteria. If I was single yet again, these are all features that I would be seeking in a stable, long term relationship. I grew up with believing in the notion that the foundational tenet of all relationship is mutual acceptance. I guess Sly is correct in his assesment that acceptance is a facet that many people seem to neglect or attach little value towards.

But can acceptance be a sole agent that not only forms a relationship, but stabilizes it as well? I think the answer is theoretically yes, and this where I disagree with Sly a lot.

Yelling at a TV screen at a football game during a tight match, for instance, is something that women do not find appealing. I also do not understand why Sly thinks that women dislike manuel (wet) shaving, instead of electric device shaving. I asked a female friend of mine if that is what she thinks is appealing in a man. She vehemently disagrees with that assumption, even without knowing too much detail.

i have no clue why Sly harbours these convictions.