to all those promoting suicide for whatever reason

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stop it.

and im not talking about those who have suicidal thoughts, but those who argue against those trying to give support. those arguing that suicide IS a viable option, in a forum like this, in posts like these.

i would call you stuff to your faces, for the enormous moronity it takes to say some of the stuff i read in here.

If you are talking about me, please be aware that I am not promoting suicide. However, in some cases, I DO PROMOTE RETRIBUTION. I have lived a long life and witnessed first hand how some people have been screwed over severely for life without any justice. I have sle seen how those who do the screwing over repeat their acts and continue to hurt others. I have also seen where they also continue to live their lives in pleasure and not give consideration to those that they have screwed.

im not good w names, i dunno who ive argued with. i wasnt pointing at anyone in particular, but a tendency that ive noticed.

retribute all you like, all im saying is:

nobody should think that their death, in ANY way, will make them feel better.

retribution can make you feel better. but you need to be allive to feel that betterness.

then someone comes along and says "but you can feel good about it when your dead!" and we're back to 0.

OK that wasn't me . I think we two are in agreement.

¡muy bien!

and i am fully aware that new people will always come along, and add to the overall suicidal vibe, but there really is NO NEED for people to go into a suicidal post, and further promote suicidal ideas... people should know better.

^ true,

Suicide is an option. Whether it's right or not depends on the person in question and whether it's beneficial. There's a point where mental and/or physical pain is too great that to be put out of your misery is a humane way of thought.

Funnily, even my psychiatrist agreed with this, it's just that it goes against the status quo and the hundreds of years of religious indoctrination that states you'll burn in hell if you kill yourself.

We do it to animals (assisted suicide), even possibly against their will (we don't know what they're thinking).

I wasn't promoting Suicide. Trust me, I've been there, and it's not pleasant. I just share my experiences not encourage them.

But how does anyone really know that? Being dead may be great, but since we are alive we can't compare it until we are dead.

I think ending ones life is a option. But if you do it let everyone you care about know why you are doing it so they are not left asking why and if it was them. If they love you for who you are they will respect your choice and not try and change your mind. But be straght and honest with them.

danielismyname, im not being religiously motivated whatsoever. im an anti-suicide atheist :S
in fact, suicide is MORE effective in a religious setting. you get the afterlife, you get to be a ghost or a spirit, and observe the results of your suicide.
i dont believe in any of that. death is death, not observation or smugness or whatever. its just death.

kenm, your attitude is dangerous. to allow people to believe that death is a reward when its not. what if people took it further? what if someones a virgin, and wants to commit suicide, because theyre hot women in heaven, and they can finally get laid?
would you let them kill themselves on that premise?
where does the realism-line go?

alternative, well if you wasnt, then i wasnt talking to you

I should have put in cases of extreme mental, pysical, or emotional suffering it should be an option. I forgot to add that.

I know, but because I've posted on here I thought I might of been in the wrong.

kenm, if there is a medical guarantee, that a victim will never ever come out of their misery, then sure. suicide may be their answer.

but theres not ONE
of those in here.

not O N E of them.
they ALL have an uncertain future, which means, it may turn to the better for them either now, ten years from now, or seventyfive years from now.

to be 20 and wanna kill yourself over still being a virgin, or simply for being aspie, or for not having friends, that does NOT "qualify", in "my book"....

Having AS means we interact differently, don't get all the cues, ect. But we still have the emotional needs to be with people. But we don't know the way to do it. This prevents you from meeting that emotional need, and you have tryed everything and don't know whta else to do, notthing you have tryed has helped, then it does qualify. You are in pain.

no it doesnt, cus theres more to life than getting to bang a chick or even "experiencing love" and all that.
ive never had love either, so what.

not getting laid and not being able to use your own brain cus of a car accident are two completely different things.

the social problems are western luxury problems. not enough friends, no social life, never to parties, come on. people are starving to death, and they fight to stay allive.
yes aspies think differently
that doesnt grant us the duty to be complete wusses about it.
i see that a lot too "my mother wants to invite me to a birthday party, but i wont go cus im aspie. shes such a cruel b***h. i hate my life."

NT's: manage social life better. are confronted w tons of stuff they dont like.
Aspies: cannot manage social life. are confronted w tons of stuff they dont like, and decide to exclude themselves from reality, for being aspie. "this doesnt concern me, im aspie". i wonder what aspies will do in war? inform every single soldier to exclude them from the action, cus theyre aspie? "no this doesnt count for me im aspie. hey im starving, this isnt fair, feed me im aspie."

yes life is uncomfortable. deal with it.
suicide is for those who cant even open their eyes without some form of aid.

Suicide is an option, sadly; just because it is one, however, doesn't make it a good one, or one to be encouraged by external forces. This is the Haven, and such behavior is absolutely inappropriate and uncalled for.


M.