wrongplanet.net is a paradox!! warning *rant*

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I posted career advice in the computers forum concerning certifications once I graduate from college. All I got was a bunch of discouragement with no real advice or support.


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I don't know if this has anything to do with ToM issues or not, but some members around here need to learn to be more tactful about how they give advice.

I mean how is telling me that employers throw away resumes with certifications, or the IT field is over saturated (which isn't entirely true), or people with certififications are for the most part incompetent supposed make me feel good about myself???

What I am really trying to say I thought WP was supposed to be a support site, but lately it has seemed to turn into a flaming war.

I am posting this in the haven because I've been attacked for things I have said in the past, hopefully the fact Im posting this in the haven will stop all attacks, but maybe not

Anyways, I think some members, consideingr the nature of AS might need guidelines on how to be tactful and supportive. (perhaps groovydruid can be of service?)

Im not sure what else their is to say other than the fact that I wish this site was as friendly as it was when i first came here in october 2004, and thats really got me disgruntled.

I agree - you just have to ignore the mean people out there - but I haven't made a topic or seen a single post where there wasn't some rude comment made - apparently some people really just like to do that . . .

I guess in that thread people weren't sure if you wanted emotional support or frank career advice. I don't think their posts were intended to actually make you feel bad, but admittedly some of them are borderline...

I don't think the talk of incompetent people with certifications was meant to discourage you. I'm sure that getting a certification would be nothing but good for your career. I believe their point was that certification was only one part of a successful career and that being motivated and sharp thinking on the day-to-day job are equally important.

I'm really sorry if I was "mean" in that thread. I didn't mean to be.

I've posted before on another forum when I was in a desperate situation and one person posted some really mean stuff a bunch of times to me one time...so I know how that feels

I've seen plenty of flame wars and uncalled-for comments on this board, but I don't see any posts of that nature in that particular thread. It seems that most of the posters were simply giving you "frank career advice" as Ian (AbominableSnoCone) put it.

well I wasn't referring to that particular thread, Im talking in general on this forum.

Jman wrote-
What I am really trying to say I thought WP was supposed to be a support site, but lately it has seemed to turn into a flaming war.


I agree with that statement, although, I didn't notice any real "attacks" on the link you provided. I did notice an appalling lack of support, encouragement or helpful advice though. I don't know anything about the field you are going into but I believe, and I think that most people would agree, that any education would be a bonus in landing a job. It certainly will put you ahead of those who have none. (unless they know the boss)

I wonder if the contention on WrongPlanet has anything to do with the time of year. You know, the after-Christmas let-down, the New Year resolution fiascos, and the mid-winter blahs. Just an idea, but I have noticed quite a bit of hostility around here.

Hmmm. That's a very strong possibility.

This again?

I think people are often unnecessarily cruel because no one ever told them not to be as children. Parents and teachers seem to believe psychological abuse is either not too hurtful, or not their responsibility to prevent, or that if they protect people from it, they wont be prepared when theyre not there.
But the problem(at least one of them) is that then people do not learn to be aware and mindful of when they might be perceived as cruel. They cant imagine that theyre minor prod could possibly cause so much pain.

As a hurted person yourself you might become more careful to be kind to others but too often they vent their frustration by reciprocating the favor.

read the thread.
this would be the place to realise that a lot of the people who responded have AS, or at least it seems that way.
We are not the best people to ask for support. It sounds stupid, but you may need to tell us what to say. At least I am that aspergery.
I have MSCE training and agree that the certification is meaningless IFF you don't have substantive experience with it.
I think the market may be better for the other kind of training since people still are running after the MCSE cert.
I did nothing but hack the system at my job with my knowledge. Well, that 's not entirely true. Their database is access and I wrote the manual for it.
All of that is to say you have an advantage over the people who got MCSE training without other computer skills/knowledge to back it up. An internship, if you can get (and afford) one is a great way to find jobs. You should find out how it is in your part of the country; employment ops are different everywhere.

To illustrate the issue of communication with aspers:
Just had a conversation with others about cologne.
I had been trying several to see what women thought. two brands i wore had women coming up to me and asking what i was wearing. i didn't get any dates. know why? each time a woman commentd on how good i smelled, she got a lecture about the chemical makeup of the cologne, as well as a list of stores where she could buy it. DUH.

Thepeaguy is a realist, and if you choose to take that advice as a put down, well, it's upto you.

I don't consider anything he said offensive to be honest, and no worse than anything you've said about neanthumain, jman.