No more will, no more energy
I am going through a rough time now, because I don't know where I am going.
I have an idea of what I want my life to be like, and I am worried that if it can never be like that, it can't be enjoyable.
I have envisioned my life as being:
In a city I can enjoy, with many hike and bike trails, and plenty of places to do and see. I even planned it to many specifics, such as the car I want, and even where I plan to buy my furniture.
As for relationships, all I want is a female Christian Aspie who likes to be outdoors and travel, and where our life outside of work would involve going out to eat at good restaurants (even if it's just a chain restaurant), going to the movies (mainstream or indie/foreign), or just cuddling on the couch at home watching Comedy Central or Adult Swim or IFC or Sundance. I want one who doesn't drink or smoke or use drugs, and I like soft music (indie pop, smooth jazz, etc.). As for sex, I don't think I can save myself until marriage, or limit it to procreational purposes (which, unfortunately, would conflict with her having to be a Christian). I also prefer people who have college degrees, because they are more likely to like the atmospheres I like (it's not a money thing). One who isn't needy or desperate for attention. By this I mean someone who won't interpret my not being on IM at a certain time of the day every day as a sign of disinterest, for example (because I can't plan my priorities around someone else's IM schedule--this is why I prefer telephone).
In other words, someone who likes hanging out in places with cultured, ambient atmospheres, but isn't too old-fashioned. Yet it seems like those with the same interests are either into the whole hippie or punk rock lifestyle, and that just isn't me. I have tried sacrificing some of these things, but if I pretended to be someone else to attract someone, I would only end up resenting that person later on.
In other words, Artsy meets Yuppie.
But I am worried that I am shooting for something I can never have, yet it's the only type of life I am comfortable with.
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Tim, I may be totally stating the obvious here, but...
You have a VERY specific idea of what you are looking for, and as you said, it's probably not a very common template. As such, it will require incredible patience to find someone to meet these criteria. I think you realize this, and are just burned out on it, and that's understandable. But I guess what I'm saying is stay strong dude, and don't perceive the situation as more grim than it actually is.
There are several of those criteria that I bet you could be somewhat flexible on without feeling like you're "being someone else"--such as if she has slightly different tastes in music or food, or likes to have an occasional drink, etc. And there are tons of women out there who are Christian who are down for premarital/non-procreational sex.
Take solace in the fact that at least you already know what you need to be "comfortable" in your life. Most people (myself included) don't have that.
You have a VERY specific idea of what you are looking for, and as you said, it's probably not a very common template. As such, it will require incredible patience to find someone to meet these criteria. I think you realize this, and are just burned out on it, and that's understandable. But I guess what I'm saying is stay strong dude, and don't perceive the situation as more grim than it actually is.
There are several of those criteria that I bet you could be somewhat flexible on without feeling like you're "being someone else"--such as if she has slightly different tastes in music or food, or likes to have an occasional drink, etc. And there are tons of women out there who are Christian who are down for premarital/non-procreational sex.
Take solace in the fact that at least you already know what you need to be "comfortable" in your life. Most people (myself included) don't have that.
The reason I avoid the hippie and punk rock lifestyles is because the former involves drug use and the latter involves alcohol and loud noises (which I can't stand).
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Naw I gotcha, mine was more about your stated preference for "indie pop, smooth jazz"--I was talking about being flexible about actual musical tastes, not the "lifestyle".
Hell, I somewhat like hippie music and punk rock, and I have no problem whatsoever with alcohol or "hippie drugs", and I wouldn't want to date someone that was actually into either of those "scenes" or "lifestyles" or however you want to put it. I wasn't suggesting you need to be flexible about that, not at all
Except for the premarital/non-procreational sex, I am completely traditional when it comes to relationships. But I have had nothing but disaster with NTs, and many Aspies are opting for friends with benefits, rather than the traditional relationship. And many of them don't want kids, and I do.
Who am I kidding? The person I am looking for doesn't exist.
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In your eyes, can a traditional relationship begin as friends with benefits?
I mean, I've had a couple of very long relationships (by the standards of a 26 year old dude anyway i.e. 2 1/2 years and 4 years) that began like friends----->friends with benefits----->"traditional relationships" (the time frames above are just the "traditional" parts of them)... It seems to me that's pretty much the norm these days, yeah.
I think it's a pretty blurry line between the "benefits" stage and the "traditional", at least in some cases. But of course that's a matter of perception.
There's the rub. Once you solve that issue, all those other concerns are minor. Do I have an easy solution for that....no. I would however, recommend trying the green eggs and ham.
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Along with me being in Red Deer, Alberta, I am not quite suitable.
I grew up a christian, but I am a non-practicing christian.I havent been to church much since I left my parents house.I believe in God and many of the biblical stuff, but I am not a bible thumper.
Red Deer has lots of the bike and hike trails btw, along with the river which is clean enough for people to tube on in the summer, rec facilities, Red Deer is basically quite world class for a small city.All of the commodities and such, but less crime.We are only about 2 hours from the Canadian rockies.Lots of lakes in the Red Deer Area.Red Deer has many nice restaraunts of various ethnicities and has a world class selection to choose from.Many great places.I have been here a year and yet still havent tried them all.Red Deer has all kinds of festivities throughout the year.
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I have done, and don't mind once in a while having a doobie.I do like my rye whiskey and Molson Canadian beer.
I will have a college diploma as of after next year.I finished my first year of a two year paralegal course at the Red Deer College, which for a college, is quite good.
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Every time you set a bunch of unrealistic expectations you get one of two results;
1. Nothing - if nothing meets the expectations, then you get ... nothing.
2. Liars - if something/someone seems to meet a set of unrealistic expectations, then they're lying.
It's the same with all aspects of life, jobs, romance etc.
You must ditch the expectations or choose only one.
eg:
Female who likes cartoons (I'd advise against this as your primary goal)
Female aspie (likewise)
Female who is similarly religiously minded (this, I think, needs to be your primary, since you don't appear able to accept anything else).
Just join a local church group and participate...
...really participate...
go to meetings, read/quote passages etc...
Talk about things, don't just listen.
Don't go on about your love life. In particular, don't talk about past experiences - it's probably T.M.I.
Don't try to ask about any of your other questions/criteria. Just enjoy the moment and if you're pleasant enough, you'll find that someone will want to go out with you.
Life is all about the journey, and not about actually reaching the destination.
If you take enjoyment out of learning things, then no matter which journey you take, you will enjoy it. No matter how bad things may get, if you treat them as learning opportunities that will make you stronger and wiser, then you'll realize that many of the things you worried about earlier in your life are child's play.
If you set your hopes up too high, then you will set yourself up for disappointment. If you set your standards low, you may find yourself very pleasantly surprised by how life goes.
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Three possibilities...
Female who likes Cartoons (but is anything but Christian, and isn't aspie).
You'll have lots of fun watching cartoons with this particular person but eventually your strong Christian views are going to cause you to try to force her to convert (or you'll judge her on her beliefs - because that's what fundamentalist Christians do). Mixed religious backgrounds certainly work in relationships but only when one isn't a fundamentalist. I've got plenty of "friends" in Christian/Buddhist relationships or Atheist/Christian relationships. They work - provided that there is no desire to "convert".
Female who is Aspie but doesn't like Cartoons and Isn't Christian
This just won't work for you. Sure, she might be more understanding but aside from the conversion problem (above), you've also got this problem where she doesn't like your favourite things. For some reason, you're convinced that aspie women won't cheat but we've seen from the forums that although they're less inclined to play mind games, aspie women are just the same as neurotypical women in most respects. There's not necessarily a measurable difference which impacts fidelity.
Female who has the same moral/religious grounds as you but doesn't like cartoons and isn't aspie
If you can agree with this sort of person on the big stuff, then you're not going to have so much conflict in your life. Sure, she might not be interested in cartoons but you can watch them by yourself. Even better, you can promise to watch some romantic comedies with her in exchange for her watching some of your things. It's a compromise which will lead you to new experiences. You may even get her to enjoy cartoons after a while... I can now watch some romantic comedies - though ones with Meg "Cry'n" Ryan still make me ill. The fact that your female isn't aspie might impact her understanding of your condition a little but if she loves you, she will learn.