Always Wrong

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I'm getting sick of always getting whipped because I'm "wrong". Can't anyone see the point I am trying to make, even if it's only a small one? No. Nobody seems to care. My sister even told me I always lose our arguments that I start "because [I'm] wrong!"

Yet again, I'm probably wrong.

Yup, definetly.

info: nt's are emotional. correct or incorrect FACT-WISE means nothing to them. correctness or incorrectness has to do with emotion, not fact.

if your opinion emotionally Upsets them, then it is Not Correct. :]

Well you're not going to be right all the time.

Could you give more specific examples? For all we know you could really be wrong. Or right. Or neither.

It would not be fair to make a blanket judgment against your sister or against NTs since we really have been given no information to go on.

thats usually it tho
according to my mother my following statements are LIES:
1. in india, women exist who arent burned to charcoal.
2. in iran, you can go outside, and not get hanged for it.
3. iraq, yemen, egypt and saudi arabia are 4 different countries, some are miles apart.
4. germanic people arrived in scandinavia prior to the ice age*

*we have a minority people here, the "lapps". she confuses "minority" with "native" and therefore insists they originally inhabited scandinavia, and that we came later. it is impossible for her to guess when we came later. i tried asking her. she got pissed off.

I'm pretty emotional myself.

Well, there was no information. All she said was that I'm wrong.

Oh, and I did think the Lapp were there first.

Me, I'm not always wrong, but it sure happens a lot. One of my sons it seemed I was apologizing to him a lot, but he never apologized to me unless my husband was holding his neck against the wall.

maybe i forgot to mention.
im aspie
i live in norway
i have done a L O T
of research

lapps inhabited the tundra areas, and... still inhabit pretty much exactly the same regions. germanic people simple werent interested in the tundras and mountain plateaus. even coastal lapps are left allone, cus they only inhabit the ice-cold north.
vikings traded w the lapps, for reindeer-pelt armors.

the germanics arrived from the south, and northwards, following the ice. earlyest settlements may be over 15 000 years old.
which could be
even older than the lapps either way, its practically impossible to assume anything other than lapps and germanics/norsemen having shared the peninsula for as long as its been inhabitable.

explaining this to my mother only translates as "hey mum, you suck!" and she gets furious with me :]

/rant

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That's true, a lot of NTs don't like to be challenged. They want things to be hunky-dory, whether you're right or wrong. Life stability takes priority over many things. So in your example about the Sami people, you could very well be right and your mom (whom I'm assuming is NT) doesn't want a fuss. NTs however do not always act irrationally. My point was that we as WP readers have absolutely NO clue what the argument was between Ms. Pickle and her sister, so we cannot make a judgment that Ms. Pickle is in fact right, nor can we conclude that Ms. Pickle's situation is similar to the example about your mom. Also, with the lack of information, we cannot conclude specifically that for her sister, "if Ms. Pickle's opinion upsets her sister, then Ms. Pickle must not be correct". Ms. Pickle's opinion could actually be wrong, but we just don't know.

So Ms. Pickle, if your sister says that you're wrong, then please give examples of what she thinks you're wrong about. If you can't, you need to ask her or somehow figure it out. I think most of us AS folks on here have felt the same way as you about this type of thing, but looking back at my own past, I can honestly say that a lot of those times I thought I was right, I was actually wrong and didn't know better! What I'd like to know is whether you are right, and people are just acting irrationally towards you, or you are wrong and you have trouble facing your own mistakes. Both are possible, and both happen to many AS folks... but I think if you understand which of the two is going on here, you'll understand the whole situation a lot better. You'll also then be able to move on from this more easily.

It'll take me about 5 years to figure it out. I'm very slow on those things.

People sometimes think I like arguing, but nothing could be further from the truth. I really mean things I say, I don't just try to argue for the sake of arguing.


My bf and some others in my life sometimes basically said to me, "I'm smart, you're dumb. I'm sane, you're nuts. I'm good, you're bad. I'm okay, you're not okay. I win, you lose. I'm right, you're wrong."


My bf has since told me he doesn't like that either and apologized for acting like that to me, and actually understood why I didn't like it and it was wrong... hahaha, for once he was wrong! Wrong for treating me like i'm always wrong!