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03 Apr 2010, 12:18 pm

I don't really let myself cry, no matter how upset I might be. It happens on the rare occasion, just my eyes will well up, and perhaps one tear will fall, and it usually just makes me feel so angry with myself for allowing my petty emotions get the best of me. I don't see any benefit to it, in fact, whenever I do find myself crying, I feel less able to distract myself from the emotions I'd rather not be feeling, and just get stuck in this childish self-pity state. Then comes the disappointment in myself for being so pathetic.

A friend of mine had actually made her facebook status that she wanted to cry, as she believed it would help, but that despite trying to make herself do this, she seemed unable. I can't understand this at all. So many people have said over the years, "Oh, all you need is a good cry. Then you'll feel better." How is this supposed to work? Now my therapist is even on board, suggesting that I allow myself to get so emotionally consumed that I break out into tears. She thinks it will somehow alleviate me.

Does anyone actually reap any benefits from crying? And if so, how does it work, exactly? I need to just shake these emotions off right now, but distraction isn't working, and neither is converting my sadness into anger (my usual MO). I don't have a switch in my head that I can just switch off for the time being, though I have wished nearly my whole life that I had. :x



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03 Apr 2010, 12:24 pm

It's like throwing up or taking a big dump. Does that ever feel good to you? :lol: It just feels good the get it out.



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03 Apr 2010, 12:27 pm

It allows you an emotional outlet I think. They might be telling you this because you appear to be repressing your emotions based on your disliking of emotions. You don't let yourself cry. Perhaps you can get yourself another outlet like a punching bad. Then you can get in shape, too. Also, crying cleanses your eyes.



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03 Apr 2010, 12:34 pm

That has been suggested to me, particularly since I usually convert my sadness into anger, as it feels an easier emotion to deal with (and makes me feel less weak). I'll definitely look into that. I do recall my mother telling me to punch pillows, but it never worked. I wanted to hit something that hurt me back (brick walls, etc). Punching bags are pretty hard, right? That's why people wear gloves? So that could be a really good option. Thank you for the suggestion!

BTW: Do you think that crying might not work for everyone, then? I guess I've been under the impression that it's supposed to work for me, and that I'm expected to give it a shot, but I wouldn't know how to go about it, or how to not hate myself afterward...



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03 Apr 2010, 1:03 pm

I don't think you can do it on demand. I tend to need something to bring it out, a movie or a song or something someone says. I like a good cry, it's very relieving. I can only guess that everyone and anyone can benefit from a good cry.


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03 Apr 2010, 1:28 pm

this is a lot of info, but the upshot is our tears have different compositions from irritant, pain or psychological/frustration type pain.

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Scientists distinguish three kinds of tears, which differ from each other by function and also, probably, by composition. Basal tears actually form continuously. We don't experience these minute secretions as tears because they don't "ball up" as we are used to tears doing; instead, every time we blink, our eyelids spread the basal solution out over the surface of our eyeballs. Basal tears keep our eyes lubricated, important in preventing damage by air currents and bits of floating debris.

Basal tears, like all tears, have numerous components. A little bit of mucus allows them to adhere to the eye surface without causing harm. The main part of a tear contains, predictably, water and salts (like sodium chloride and potassium chloride). The ratio of salt to water in tears is typically similar to that of the rest of the body, so there is no net change in salt concentration; nonetheless, if the body's salt concentration climbs too high, it will take advantage of the tear solution and instill it with extra salt. Tears also have antibodies that defend against pathogenic microbes, and enzymes which also contribute to destroying any bacteria the eye encounters. A thin layer of oil covers the tear's outside to discourage it from falling out of the eye before its work has been done.

Our eyes produce irritant tears when hit by wind or sand (or insects or rocks). Irritant, or reflex, tears have the same constituents as basal tears, and work toward the same goal: protecting the eyes. However, since they are designed to break down and eliminate eyeball-intruders like airborne dust, these tears tend to flow in greater amounts and probably contain a greater concentration of antibodies and enzymes that target micro-organisms. Thus, irritant tears are not just basal tears in greater quantity; different biological processes precede the excretion of the two types of solution.

The voluminous tears that so rapidly move us to frustration or pity are, of course, emotional tears. Secreted in moments of intense feeling – sometimes joy, but more often sorrow – these tears aren't there to cleanse the eyes of irritating microbes or debris. Yet they do serve a purpose; the function of emotional tears can be inferred from their constituents. Emotional tears contain much more (maybe 25% more) than basal or irritant tears of a certain important ingredient: proteins.

What do proteins do? Well, what can't they do? We know very well they can be involved in anything and everything. The proteins found in emotional tears are hormones that build up to very high levels when the body withstands emotional stress.

If the chemicals associated with stress did not discharge at all, they would build up to toxic levels that could weaken the body's immune system and other biological processes. But here, as in other areas, the body has its own mechanisms of coping. We secrete stress chemicals when we sweat and when we cry. Clearly, then, it is physically very healthy to cry, regardless of whether or not it feels awkward or embarrassing socially. The reason people will frequently report feeling better after a well-placed cry is doubtless connected to the discharge of stress-related proteins; some of the proteins excreted in tears are even associated with the experience of physical pain, rendering weeping a physiologically pain-reducing process. Conversely, the state of clinical depression – in which many of the body's self-healing processes appear to "shut down," including, often, emotional tears – is most likely exacerbated by the tearless victim's inability to adequately discharge her pent-up stress. Psychologists refer to freely weeping as an important stage in the healing process. But although this notion may appear to be psychological in origin, involving the confrontation of one's own grief, it also just applies physiologically: crying can reduce levels of stress hormones.



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03 Apr 2010, 1:30 pm

Moog wrote:
I don't think you can do it on demand. I tend to need something to bring it out, a movie or a song or something someone says. I like a good cry, it's very relieving. I can only guess that everyone and anyone can benefit from a good cry.


I could try something like that... a trigger... Are you able to explain how the relief aspect works for you? People tell me it helps them, and they feel better afterward, but what specifically does it do? How does it work? lol. I'm sorry. I have such a hard time understanding this, since it seems to have such an adverse effect on me. I would like to understand it though, and if it really could help me, I would be more than willing to give it a try.



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03 Apr 2010, 1:35 pm

Oh, Sinsboldly, THANK YOU!! ! This is very good information! And it definitely makes me see the potential upside to allowing myself to go through with it... Might even say, I find it encouraging, and might go try a trigger, as Moog suggested, right now! :D / :cry: / :D

Do you have a link for this info, or search terms for google that I could use to read about it further?



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03 Apr 2010, 2:57 pm

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People tell me it helps them, and they feel better afterward, but what specifically does it do? How does it work? lol. I'm sorry. I have such a hard time understanding this, since it seems to have such an adverse effect on me. I would like to understand it though, and if it really could help me, I would be more than willing to give it a try.


Well. It's like some kind of emotional 'energy' gets stored up in your body, and a cry let's it all out, and then you feel all limp and empty and relaxed and ready to be filled up again. Or something. I clearly haven't thought this through. :lol:

I could do with a good cry right now actually.

I think the main thing for you is examining this sadness/anger thing. I don't know if it's a good idea to sublimate one emotion for another. Next time you feel like crying and you get angry, maybe you can be conscious enough of it to try just letting it be sadness instead of converting it to anger.


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03 Apr 2010, 3:20 pm

It's like some weight had been pulled down. After thet the mind feel clealer too. In true there is time where I would wish to be able to cry more easily.


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03 Apr 2010, 4:28 pm

Moog wrote:
I think the main thing for you is examining this sadness/anger thing. I don't know if it's a good idea to sublimate one emotion for another. Next time you feel like crying and you get angry, maybe you can be conscious enough of it to try just letting it be sadness instead of converting it to anger.


I agree. I was just discussing it recently with my therapist, and her and I both realized that I developed that conversion process long ago out of necessity, and that it served its purpose well then, but that it doesn't provide the same positive outcome any longer. Thank you for taking the time to describe how it works for you. And for the suggestion to "trigger it" with some external influence. I'll try to set aside some time tonight to see if I can't make it work for me, as well. :D



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03 Apr 2010, 5:12 pm

Side_Kick wrote:
Oh, Sinsboldly, THANK YOU!! ! This is very good information! And it definitely makes me see the potential upside to allowing myself to go through with it... Might even say, I find it encouraging, and might go try a trigger, as Moog suggested, right now! :D / :cry: / :D

Do you have a link for this info, or search terms for google that I could use to read about it further?


http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum ... opic=19782
http://www.google.com/search?q=composit ... =firefox-a

I am so glad! I might just have a good cry myself. . !

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03 Apr 2010, 5:21 pm

^ Thanks a bunch for the links! You rock. :D



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03 Apr 2010, 8:21 pm

Side_Kick wrote:
^ Thanks a bunch for the links! You rock. :D


you are pretty cool 8) yourself, Side_Kick! :D