Is Psychological help done alot better for children?

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zeldapsychology
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01 May 2010, 10:30 am

My first experience with a Psychiatrist was Bipolar 2 diagnosis and some pills 3 months of mentioning the College issue and every month "up the dose of the pill" after 3 months I kept my mouth shut and I went in for a long evaluation of yes/no questions I answered yes/no and she said "Is that all you are going to say!!" Me: Yes her: Fine then leave! me: Fine I will! (walked out of office) during the 3rd month I mention I skipped my sisters graduation from College (I was still suffering from getting kicked out mind you) and she goes on about needing "Psychological testing" (which cost money/not covered by insurance) she said jealousy was wrong BS!! !! (She wasn't HELPFUL!! !)

Another Psychiatrist put me on a 2nd pill and a therapist (at this new Psychiatrist location) Mention about the teacher issue "If I was her I'd never want to see you again" UH THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL BETTER FOR GOD SAKE!! !! She also gave advise and when I didn't take it was like "So why didn't you take my advice?" Me: Uh I don't know. (IMO I don't take ONE piece of your advice and you are clueless SOME THERAPIST YOU ARE!! !! !! !) Another therapist when mentioning the upset everyone issue his reply "that's issues they have with you what issues do you have?" IMO DUH I JUST MENTION THEM THAT I UPSET EVERY GOD DAMN PERSON I KNOW SHEESH!! !! !! !! !! !! !!


He also mention some things my parents have done as wrong behavior (NO s**t SHERLOCK YOU DUMB ASS THERAPIST DUH THEY HAVE ISSUES I DIDN'T NEED A GOD DAMN THERAPIST TO TELL ME THAT!! !! !! !! !! !) Also when I mention Asperger's the Psychiatrist said "You couldn't have that that's something diagnosed in children and there's no pill for that and this is a place that gives pills." I was shocked!! !! ! As of now AND ANOTHER NEW Psychiatrist I mention AS his response (You could have it.) (IMO he said this just to shut me up but also Here's a pill to "level your mood.") AWFUL EXPERIENCES ALL AROUND DAMN IT!! !! !! !! !! !! ! Now where does dealing with children come into play? (coming off tv and other things such as my sister getting tested in school) It's talk to teacher/parents etc. to get a better behavior picture and understand the client better from the parent/teacher view AND the child's view on there behavior! Also it's not all take a pill it's about helping the child develop better behavior skills to become a better adult but since I'm already an adult I feel it's (excuse me) but f**k You! :-( I wish behavior help was done better for adults. (Sorry for the rant.) :-)



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01 May 2010, 11:58 am

Rough guess, only one out of three counselors is worth a damn. A big, big reason is that psychologist tend to be "be righters." By that, I mean, from the psychologist's perspective, them being "right" about whatever little pet theory they're into is more important than the quality of your life. It's incredible once you think about it. A counselor should have a meaningful conversation with a lot of ping ponging back and forth, with you as a dominant partner, because it's your life afterall. And so, if you don't think a medication is helping, a mental health professional should really listen to that. The whole situation is similar to . . .

. . . an inexperienced business manager who thinks the manager's job is to "know the answer." No, the manager's job is to know how to find out. Or, a level more sophisticated, to know how to coach their people to find out. Again, with you as the majority partner. The psychologist should have a respectful and meaningful conversation with you.

. . . a minister on the payroll, who thinks because he or she is getting paid, their job to "know the answer." When the thing would work so much better as a partnership (I'm not exactly a big fan of religion, but at least this would work better)


So, if only one out of three mental health professionals are good, it is entirely possible to have a bad run at it.



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01 May 2010, 2:03 pm

I had to modify my own behaviors. I figured out what was UNacceptable, then did the opposite. Try that. It's obvious that you're behaving in such a way that upsets the teachers, so figure out what you do that upsets them, then stop doing it. Meds help, but they're not a cure all. Many psychs want to simply drug a patient, hey here's a happy pill, take it and it will solve all your problems kind of thing. It's easier on them if they can get a patient doped up and artificially happy than to go through all the therapy stuff. I know that at one point I wanted therapy and couldn't find anybody who would take Medicare. So I didn't get it. Another problem is the superiority complex a lot of psychs have, the attitude that the patient is broken and they the docs are superior to these broken people. Docs with that attitude are the type that just lord it over the patients, and don't really treat them.



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01 May 2010, 4:18 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:
. . . I answered yes/no and she said "Is that all you are going to say!!" Me: Yes her: Fine then leave! me: Fine I will! (walked out of office) during the 3rd month I mention I skipped my sisters graduation from College (I was still suffering from getting kicked out mind you) and she goes on about needing "Psychological testing" (which cost money/not covered by insurance) she said jealousy was wrong BS!! !! (She wasn't HELPFUL!! !) . . .

This psychiatrist jumped levels, when she really didn't have to. That is, this 'helping professional' showed a lack of social skills!

What if instead, she lets herself feel to the conclusion that you really weren't of a mind to say much. 'Okay. Alright,' she says after yet another yes/no answer. 'So, things aren't really going well.' Now, that's just average. I think a person with just average social skills could do that. And then if she could take a chance that she's been mistaken so far. 'And what we're doing is not really working?' That might be what an above-average professional could do.

And that would have been so much better! Well, some psychiatrists/psychologists are helpful, and some aren't.

Your response was kind of 'however you want to look at it,' I think, that's about the best I can put it into words. And you kept it brief (very good). And you stood up and you put one foot physically in front of the other and walked out of there. Good for you!

You stood up for yourself.

I'm not sure I could have in real time. Sometimes I can, and sometimes I can't. Both are part of being human.

Now, the part about jealousy being wrong. Oh, that's rich and that's so much like a religion. Yeah, jealousy is a human emotion and as human beings we do sometimes feel jealousy. If someone accuses us as jealousy being the 'real' reason, something like that. Well, speaking for myself, a lot of my actions have multiple motives and multiple inputs, and that's just a fact of being a human being. What I find helpful is feeling my way (right brain) to a decision that feels promising and feels authentic. (whereas trying to clunk it and left-brain it, usually doesn't work as well, and what I find particularly unhelpful is having someone carp from the sidelines, or someone generally critical of me without a baseline of acceptance) And the part that's like a religion is clunkily deciding that something is 'bad' and that one should therefore wage war against oneself? I don't think so. That's not at all helpful. The method clearly is to accept and to channel and direct. Even jealousy can sometimes be positive, if one responds in an authentic way, takes medium steps, gets feedback, takes additional medium steps, etc. Now, psychology books might talk about this in theory. But apparently the practice is sometimes quite a bit different, now, isn't it!