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Jaydog1212
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15 Jun 2010, 6:11 pm

I'm so bummed today. I was just thinking how my high anxiety ruins everything. I have read anti-anxiety techniques, they help somewhat but not enough. When something spikes my anxiety I spin out of control.

Are most aspies this anxious? I feel abnormal....

I have no friends in my town. I really don't like going to bars and other social outings. Although, I do go to festivals and malls with my parents.

Not sure what else to say ... :cry:



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15 Jun 2010, 9:25 pm

I get extremely anxious, too. Nothing I've tried helps as much as I'd like it to, so most of what I can offer you is sympathy. Something deep inside just involuntarily tenses up whenever I sense the presence of most other people, and suddenly I start forgetting things and finding my train of thought in totally irrelevant territory. It's a daily struggle to maintain my energy and morale.

Regular exercise will help. When I must interact with other people, I just take deep breaths and focus on being kind to the other person and to myself.

Drawing helps me, too.



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15 Jun 2010, 9:41 pm

Supposedly meditation helps?



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15 Jun 2010, 9:53 pm

poppyx wrote:
Supposedly meditation helps?


It can help. When I withdraw I guess it could be called meditating. Some people don't understand when I become silent. I'm doing mental gymnastics to turn my mental state around. I don't do this forcibly but rather try to guide myself into a different state of being.

I think I do better with VERY small groups or one-on-one. For some reason, the more people that are added the more confusing it gets.

When my anxiety gets extremely high, I have to walk. If it's too hot outside I try to go to a mall to just walk around.

For me, it feels like when you program a computer and there is a logic error that puts the computer in an infinite loop.
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15 Jun 2010, 10:11 pm

I get really anxious before big (or often small) events, even walking to the shops is an uphill battle.

I don't really know if this will help but whenever I feel it coming it just kind of chuck myself at the situation because I know if I dodge around the boundaries it will become too much to cope with, I just go a little stupid and reckless is the only way I can describe it.

Hope you find a way around it someday :)


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15 Jun 2010, 11:26 pm

Jaydog1212 wrote:
Are most aspies this anxious? I feel abnormal....


Dr. Nick Dubin (who has asperger's) has written the book Asperger Syndrome and Anxiety: A Guide to Successful Stress Management.

In the foreword, written by Dr. Valerie Gaus, it says:

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As a psychotherapist, I have spent the last 15 years serving adults on the autism spectrum, mostly people diagnosed with Asperger syndrome and high-functioning autism. Anxiety is at the core of the problems presented by almost every client I have served.

- page 9

Dr. Dubin himself writes:

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One reason I wrote this book is to affirm that anxiety is not a unique response for those of us with Asperger's and it contributes to our feeling like strangers in a strange land. If we are honest with ourselves, most of us will admit the world is a fairly terrifying place.

- page 12

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Perhaps becoming aware your anxiety is a neurological issue versus a psychological one can relieve a burden you've been carrying around for a long time. Maybe you've judged yourself harshly for the anxiety you regularly experience. Perhaps you've been told by others if you would just learn to relax, the anxiety would go away. Well, it's not that easy. Over a period of time, the anxiety-filled memories from childhood become locked in our brains, tending to make the anxiety stick with us throughout our lives. Anxiety, like rust, is difficult to get rid of. You can't just wave it away with a magic wand. It requires a lot of focus and hard work. If you are willing to put in the time, however, I believe the rewards will be far greater than you could have ever imagined.

- page 13

and

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You must understand how having Asperger's has contributed to your high levels of anxiety. You can't truly understand why youa re so anxious unless you bring Asperger's into the equation. That's how this book is going to be different from anything you have previously read about anxiety. You are going to penetrate the mystery of why you have experienced such a high degree of anxiety for so long.

- page 15

I hope these snippets from Dr. Dubin's book will help put your mind at ease as to whether you are abnormal or not -- you are not abnormal. Asperger's and Anxiety go together like tea and toast. The anxiety can be worked with and conquered, but in today's society, high anxiety is the normal default state of the person with asperger's. You are not alone.


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15 Jun 2010, 11:49 pm

Sparrowrose wrote:
Jaydog1212 wrote:
Are most aspies this anxious? I feel abnormal....


Dr. Nick Dubin (who has asperger's) has written the book Asperger Syndrome and Anxiety: A Guide to Successful Stress Management.

In the foreword, written by Dr. Valerie Gaus, it says:

Quote:
As a psychotherapist, I have spent the last 15 years serving adults on the autism spectrum, mostly people diagnosed with Asperger syndrome and high-functioning autism. Anxiety is at the core of the problems presented by almost every client I have served.

- page 9

Dr. Dubin himself writes:

Quote:
One reason I wrote this book is to affirm that anxiety is not a unique response for those of us with Asperger's and it contributes to our feeling like strangers in a strange land. If we are honest with ourselves, most of us will admit the world is a fairly terrifying place.

- page 12

and

Quote:
Perhaps becoming aware your anxiety is a neurological issue versus a psychological one can relieve a burden you've been carrying around for a long time. Maybe you've judged yourself harshly for the anxiety you regularly experience. Perhaps you've been told by others if you would just learn to relax, the anxiety would go away. Well, it's not that easy. Over a period of time, the anxiety-filled memories from childhood become locked in our brains, tending to make the anxiety stick with us throughout our lives. Anxiety, like rust, is difficult to get rid of. You can't just wave it away with a magic wand. It requires a lot of focus and hard work. If you are willing to put in the time, however, I believe the rewards will be far greater than you could have ever imagined.

- page 13

and

Quote:
You must understand how having Asperger's has contributed to your high levels of anxiety. You can't truly understand why youa re so anxious unless you bring Asperger's into the equation. That's how this book is going to be different from anything you have previously read about anxiety. You are going to penetrate the mystery of why you have experienced such a high degree of anxiety for so long.

- page 15

I hope these snippets from Dr. Dubin's book will help put your mind at ease as to whether you are abnormal or not -- you are not abnormal. Asperger's and Anxiety go together like tea and toast. The anxiety can be worked with and conquered, but in today's society, high anxiety is the normal default state of the person with asperger's. You are not alone.


Thanks for the post. I didn't know about this book. I will have to check it out.



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16 Jun 2010, 12:06 am

Sparrowrose wrote:
Asperger's and Anxiety go together like tea and toast. The anxiety can be worked with and conquered ...


Not sure about "conquered", at least in my own case, yet I do find it possible to keep moving along.

Today I made a list of things I needed to go get from two different stores on the same side of the street while on my way back from the farther-away one ... and thinking through those things beforehand was how I got past the anxiety that usually comes almost every time I think about leaving the house and going anywhere at all. My vision is not great and to go anywhere at all I must drive on a busy, crowded and narrow four-lane highway with curves and hills for about 5 miles to get to the only department store in town.

I did okay in the stores, but I could not find my car in the parking lot after coming out of the first one ... and I had just purchased two large and heavy items (some flat-pack furniture) I was not really sure how I was going to fit inside it anyway. To get past the anxiety of pushing my loaded cart around in the parking lot in the hot sun while looking for my car, I just kept pushing while making conscious efforts to simply wonder how this "adventure" was going to turn out ... then I happened to see the man who bought my truck just a week ago, and I ended up giving him some gas money for hauling my stuff back to the house for me ... and then I found my car just a couple of lanes away from where he had been parked.

Aside from being able to believe there really is a sovereign creator who actually does give a flip about me for whatever reason, just waking up in the morning would drive me insane.


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