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21 Jul 2010, 1:31 pm

I really dislike my life Im very unhappy. I dont know how to make it better though. I feel so constrained by my responsibilities and unable to enjoy things or change myself. I feel stuck in a deep dark pit unable to climb out or find an escape.

Ive given up my university courses as Im in no state to do them as Im so stressed and dispairing and cant concentrate or feel motivated. It just all seems so horrible and I cant find anything which is nice or makes things better.

I have no friends and poor relationships with my family, the only person I see is my social worker. when I think of trying to go to things to meet people I just feel sick and awful, when I have been to things it made me feel awful and full of self hatred anmd I dont want to make myself feel worse I want to feel better. I dont know how I can enjoy life when everything makes me feel awful, I cant think of what to do to make things better.

I know people dont like me because of who I am or how I am but I dont know how to change, I try to change but it doesnt work. I dont know what to do.



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21 Jul 2010, 1:33 pm

Sounds like you're suffering from severe clinical depression. Have you tried Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, or other forms of Psychotherapy?


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21 Jul 2010, 1:35 pm

I had a mental health assessment and they said I did not have depression just anxiety and have referred me for cbt but its a long waiting list (6months plus).

Im seeing a psychiatrist next week and shall ask for meds but i want to know what I can do to change things not just wait for meds.

Ive had lots of cbt and psychotherapy in the past but it has never made any change.



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21 Jul 2010, 1:54 pm

aw *hugs*. maybe you should try giving some of your courses another go? sometimes anxiety makes you not want to do anything because you go out of your way to avoid stressful situations; so you have to push yourself to do things. + itd give you something to focus on other than all the negative things that you're currently occupied with



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21 Jul 2010, 2:06 pm

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aw *hugs*. maybe you should try giving some of your courses another go? sometimes anxiety makes you not want to do anything because you go out of your way to avoid stressful situations; so you have to push yourself to do things. + itd give you something to focus on other than all the negative things that you're currently occupied with


no I cant its makeing everything much worse, I just feel sick when I look at my essay and like hurting myself but I can write it, Im too upset. its not an important course for me, was just for enjoyment. I have important courses strating in october and Im hopeing if I cut the current one I will be in a fit state to do the important one in october, I think if I fource myself to go on, I will remain stressed and ruin the more important course too.



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21 Jul 2010, 2:50 pm

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I really dislike my life Im very unhappy. I dont know how to make it better though. I feel so constrained by my responsibilities and unable to enjoy things or change myself. I feel stuck in a deep dark pit unable to climb out or find an escape.

Ive given up my university courses as Im in no state to do them as Im so stressed and dispairing and cant concentrate or feel motivated. It just all seems so horrible and I cant find anything which is nice or makes things better.

I have no friends and poor relationships with my family, the only person I see is my social worker. when I think of trying to go to things to meet people I just feel sick and awful, when I have been to things it made me feel awful and full of self hatred anmd I dont want to make myself feel worse I want to feel better. I dont know how I can enjoy life when everything makes me feel awful, I cant think of what to do to make things better.

I know people dont like me because of who I am or how I am but I dont know how to change, I try to change but it doesnt work. I dont know what to do.


You sound like me right now. I'm stuck in some dark hole and can't figure out how to get out of it. Life just seems to suck in general right now and I feel like I have no friends no left, non one likes me and I'm tired all the time, stressed out over class work... etc... Wish I knew how to escape this mind numbing curse.

Hope you feel better.


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21 Jul 2010, 2:58 pm

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I really dislike my life Im very unhappy. I dont know how to make it better though. I feel so constrained by my responsibilities and unable to enjoy things or change myself. I feel stuck in a deep dark pit unable to climb out or find an escape.

Ive given up my university courses as Im in no state to do them as Im so stressed and dispairing and cant concentrate or feel motivated. It just all seems so horrible and I cant find anything which is nice or makes things better.

I have no friends and poor relationships with my family, the only person I see is my social worker. when I think of trying to go to things to meet people I just feel sick and awful, when I have been to things it made me feel awful and full of self hatred anmd I dont want to make myself feel worse I want to feel better. I dont know how I can enjoy life when everything makes me feel awful, I cant think of what to do to make things better.

I know people dont like me because of who I am or how I am but I dont know how to change, I try to change but it doesnt work. I dont know what to do.


Feeling as though you are in despair is a bad emotional time that can sometimes felt by people with Asperger's. I wish you all the best. *Hug*
You can send me a PM any time. :) I will try my best to help you. ^^

I am sorry about university troubles. I had problems with my old college at times.

I will talk to you any time you wish if you would like to. *Hug* :)

You say you live in the midlands. ^^
Can you drive?
There is a social group for people with Asperger's and Autism which I attend called Autonomy, and it is based in Shropshire, and events are held in Shrewsbury mainly and sometimes in Telford. :)
If accessable to you, it would definitely be beneficial and worth attending these meetings. ^^ :) There is a very helpful lady by the name of Sara who founded and runs the group - she is a hard working activist for people with Asperger's and Autism, and she is officially an Asperger worker infact. :)

All the best. Life will get better, and I hope all the best for you lotusblossom. :) *Hug*


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21 Jul 2010, 4:14 pm

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I really dislike my life Im very unhappy. I dont know how to make it better though. I feel so constrained by my responsibilities and unable to enjoy things or change myself. I feel stuck in a deep dark pit unable to climb out or find an escape.

Ive given up my university courses as Im in no state to do them as Im so stressed and dispairing and cant concentrate or feel motivated. It just all seems so horrible and I cant find anything which is nice or makes things better.

I have no friends and poor relationships with my family, the only person I see is my social worker. when I think of trying to go to things to meet people I just feel sick and awful, when I have been to things it made me feel awful and full of self hatred anmd I dont want to make myself feel worse I want to feel better. I dont know how I can enjoy life when everything makes me feel awful, I cant think of what to do to make things better.

I know people dont like me because of who I am or how I am but I dont know how to change, I try to change but it doesnt work. I dont know what to do.


You sound like me right now. I'm stuck in some dark hole and can't figure out how to get out of it. Life just seems to suck in general right now and I feel like I have no friends no left, non one likes me and I'm tired all the time, stressed out over class work... etc... Wish I knew how to escape this mind numbing curse.

Hope you feel better.


yes its horrible isnt it. It makes me feel so bad that no one likes me and I cant do the right things to make them like me. It makes me feel so bad about myself. I feel so stuck and trapped with myself, I want to escape myself and not have my life, I dont know how to do it different.

I hope you feel better too.



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21 Jul 2010, 4:20 pm

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I really dislike my life Im very unhappy. I dont know how to make it better though. I feel so constrained by my responsibilities and unable to enjoy things or change myself. I feel stuck in a deep dark pit unable to climb out or find an escape.

Ive given up my university courses as Im in no state to do them as Im so stressed and dispairing and cant concentrate or feel motivated. It just all seems so horrible and I cant find anything which is nice or makes things better.

I have no friends and poor relationships with my family, the only person I see is my social worker. when I think of trying to go to things to meet people I just feel sick and awful, when I have been to things it made me feel awful and full of self hatred anmd I dont want to make myself feel worse I want to feel better. I dont know how I can enjoy life when everything makes me feel awful, I cant think of what to do to make things better.

I know people dont like me because of who I am or how I am but I dont know how to change, I try to change but it doesnt work. I dont know what to do.


Feeling as though you are in despair is a bad emotional time that can sometimes felt by people with Asperger's. I wish you all the best. *Hug*
You can send me a PM any time. :) I will try my best to help you. ^^

I am sorry about university troubles. I had problems with my old college at times.

I will talk to you any time you wish if you would like to. *Hug* :)

You say you live in the midlands. ^^
Can you drive?
There is a social group for people with Asperger's and Autism which I attend called Autonomy, and it is based in Shropshire, and events are held in Shrewsbury mainly and sometimes in Telford. :)
If accessable to you, it would definitely be beneficial and worth attending these meetings. ^^ :) There is a very helpful lady by the name of Sara who founded and runs the group - she is a hard working activist for people with Asperger's and Autism, and she is officially an Asperger worker infact. :)

All the best. Life will get better, and I hope all the best for you lotusblossom. :) *Hug*

thanks Samtoo, that is a kind offer.

Unfortunately Im not good at pming or meet ups.

I tried some aspie meet ups but they did not go well for me and I left feeling more misunderstood and down on myself. I find it hard to cope with the inevitable criticisms people make and lash myself with self hatred.

Im glad the shropshire group has been good for you though.



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21 Jul 2010, 4:44 pm

The people part of the social group are very friendly and will understand a lot of what you feel I am sure. :) No one would be harsh and no one would criticize you. Sara is brilliant at motivating people too. ^^ :)
If you would ever like to attend the events, or get in contact with Sara, then I can help you. :)

All the best to you, and I hope you feel much better very soon. :) ^^ *Hug*


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21 Jul 2010, 6:08 pm

Sorry you are so beset with anxiety. Here's a flower for you! :flower:


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21 Jul 2010, 6:23 pm

Take control. Become aware of your thoughts as they happen, and come to realise that thinking negatively doesn't solve anything.
Seeking help is a good idea, but won't fix it alone. A therapist or doctor can help a great deal, but in the end you have to make the changes yourself.
Go out of your way to do something you enjoy, it's easy to forget to enjoy life.
Be awesome. 8)



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22 Jul 2010, 2:48 am

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Sorry you are so beset with anxiety. Here's a flower for you! :flower:

thank you for the flower :)



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22 Jul 2010, 2:54 am

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Take control. Become aware of your thoughts as they happen, and come to realise that thinking negatively doesn't solve anything.
Seeking help is a good idea, but won't fix it alone. A therapist or doctor can help a great deal, but in the end you have to make the changes yourself.
Go out of your way to do something you enjoy, it's easy to forget to enjoy life.
Be awesome. 8)


thats the trouble, I cant think of things I enjoy to add in to my life. Most things they suggest in books to try are things that I hate such as phoneing someone, and I dont like any of the things I used to like. For example I used to like painting but now it makes me feel sick and rubbish, I used to like studying but now I feel stupid and awful when I try. A lot of the other things I liked doing makes me think of my ex bf as we used to do them together and makes me more sad.

Im going to use this time until october when i dont have to study anymore to really work on myself and read all the self help books I bought but did not read, I have a stack of perfectionism books and stress books Ive only flicked through, thats bound to help.

I wish I could think of what would make me happy and how I could make my life enjoyable, I just dont like anything any more its all colourless and painful.



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22 Jul 2010, 9:06 am

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thats the trouble, I cant think of things I enjoy to add in to my life. Most things they suggest in books to try are things that I hate such as phoneing someone, and I dont like any of the things I used to like. For example I used to like painting but now it makes me feel sick and rubbish, I used to like studying but now I feel stupid and awful when I try. A lot of the other things I liked doing makes me think of my ex bf as we used to do them together and makes me more sad.

Im going to use this time until october when i dont have to study anymore to really work on myself and read all the self help books I bought but did not read, I have a stack of perfectionism books and stress books Ive only flicked through, thats bound to help.

I wish I could think of what would make me happy and how I could make my life enjoyable, I just dont like anything any more its all colourless and painful.

Actually this sounds a lot like clinical depression, not just anxiety. Especially the part about everything seeming colorless and painful. I'm puzzled as to why your assesment didn't include depression.

You have to ask yourself whether your anxiety is actually *worse* than it was before or whether you just have *less will power* to push through things that make you anxious or upset. Avoidance is a big part of depression because depression dampens regions of the brain involved in experiencing positive motivation and a sense of reward.



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22 Jul 2010, 9:32 am

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thats the trouble, I cant think of things I enjoy to add in to my life. Most things they suggest in books to try are things that I hate such as phoneing someone, and I dont like any of the things I used to like. For example I used to like painting but now it makes me feel sick and rubbish, I used to like studying but now I feel stupid and awful when I try. A lot of the other things I liked doing makes me think of my ex bf as we used to do them together and makes me more sad.

Im going to use this time until october when i dont have to study anymore to really work on myself and read all the self help books I bought but did not read, I have a stack of perfectionism books and stress books Ive only flicked through, thats bound to help.

I wish I could think of what would make me happy and how I could make my life enjoyable, I just dont like anything any more its all colourless and painful.

Actually this sounds a lot like clinical depression, not just anxiety. Especially the part about everything seeming colorless and painful. I'm puzzled as to why your assesment didn't include depression.

You have to ask yourself whether your anxiety is actually *worse* than it was before or whether you just have *less will power* to push through things that make you anxious or upset. Avoidance is a big part of depression because depression dampens regions of the brain involved in experiencing positive motivation and a sense of reward.

I thought I had depression and I asked my GP for a referal to adult mental health services, when the psych nurses assessed me they said it was not depression, I dont know their reasoning for that. Im seeing the psychiatrist next week so maybe he will say it is depression, it doesnt really matter though as the meds for anxiety and depression are mostly the same.