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21 Apr 2011, 5:37 am

lately i have been getting closer and closer to killing myself, but for some reason i still dont, why cant i, i have the capacity to do so so why dont i?


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21 Apr 2011, 7:24 am

because you're up against the natural drive towards self-preservation. it takes an overwhelming tide of woe to overcome that, though the thresholds in certain folk are notably lower, than in other folk.



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21 Apr 2011, 9:29 am

don't do it-there is nothing that bad worth taking your own life-even though you and I and others on Wrong Planet have varying degrees of ASD's -life is still worth living-the NT world seem to love to set the bar on whats normal for everybody,sets the bar on how people should act,whether you have a partner,are you a virgin/not a virgin,what you like to eat etc etc etc-its frustating I know to get along in this world and many roadblocks seem to be set up by the NT world but keep trying-if you cant speak or should I say communicate you thoughts and feeling because you are no longer here-thats bad-I know that sometimes it seems that people do not listen to us but there will that one time someone and the right some one will hear and help


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21 Apr 2011, 10:07 am

First: don't. Killing yourself isn't the solution.

Second: Even if you feel like it is, it's a trick your mind is playing on you. You need help, not a gun and a bullet (or whatever other thousands of ways to off yourself).


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21 Apr 2011, 10:15 am

tk5800 wrote:
... why cant i, i have the capacity to do so so why dont i?

I do not know, but I have the same deal. Overall, maybe my rational mind simply refuses to believe there is truly no hope at all.


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21 Apr 2011, 10:21 am

leejosepho wrote:
tk5800 wrote:
... why cant i, i have the capacity to do so so why dont i?

I do not know, but I have the same deal. Overall, maybe my rational mind simply refuses to believe there is truly no hope at all.


That's an illusion. So long as you're alive, there's hope.


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21 Apr 2011, 11:47 am

Logically, it makes no sense to commit suicide. If you lack personal ambitions, you're capable of helping other people who need assistance in accomplishing their ambitions. Go to a soup kitchen and volunteer to feed someone, pack boxes for a food pantry, hand out clothing to the homeless, go play games with elderly dementia patients whose family never visits... if you have nothing to personally live for, live for others. Hell, you might even like it. People think that because they don't have a list of goals with motivation to accomplish them that they have to commit suicide. There's another option that makes far more sense.



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22 Apr 2011, 4:51 am

the person in the depths of despair usually has become so myopic that they just can't see anything outside of themselves, especially when they have social issues to begin with. so to expect such to magically become "with it" and feel altruistic and volunteer with other needy people is probably expecting too much of them at that point in their lives. just my 2-cents' worth, not adjusted for inflation :)



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22 Apr 2011, 4:53 am

leejosepho wrote:
tk5800 wrote:
... why cant i, i have the capacity to do so so why dont i?

I do not know, but I have the same deal. Overall, maybe my rational mind simply refuses to believe there is truly no hope at all.


my hope is that when [and only when] i have run the race i voluntarily entered - and reach the finish line, that i will finally get to matriculate into the bright world above. 8)



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22 Apr 2011, 6:48 am

auntblabby wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
tk5800 wrote:
... why cant i, i have the capacity to do so so why dont i?

I do not know, but I have the same deal. Overall, maybe my rational mind simply refuses to believe there is truly no hope at all.

my hope is that when [and only when] i have run the race i voluntarily entered - and reach the finish line, that i will finally get to matriculate into the bright world above. 8)

I am more inclined to believe that will be a renewed world right here ... but either way, it is impossible for me to believe nothing follows life as we now know it.


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22 Apr 2011, 8:43 am

auntblabby wrote:
the person in the depths of despair usually has become so myopic that they just can't see anything outside of themselves, especially when they have social issues to begin with. so to expect such to magically become "with it" and feel altruistic and volunteer with other needy people is probably expecting too much of them at that point in their lives. just my 2-cents' worth, not adjusted for inflation :)


They aren't looking at it logically, is what I'm saying. If you think you have no skills, no future and no way to make anything good of yourself, then just show up at a place that will tell you what to do that could help other people. It requires no skills other than operating a ladle or putting things into boxes. Do that while people with skills who are accomplishing all these wild things for themselves are too busy to ladle soup or put nonperishables in boxes. It's more logical than killing oneself, really. I realize people who are suicidal are consumed with a selfish fixation, but if they can't manage to physically kill themselves, they ought to take the time to logically examine how stupid it would be to do that, anyway.



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22 Apr 2011, 9:04 am

I know that when I'm feeling particularly bad about myself, I go looking for people that have it worse off than me. I'll read 'medical incredible' stories - like about people who have had their face surgically removed or of children sold into sex slavery, surviving escaping and leading organizations to save other children... I find other people that have somehow found that inner strength against incredible odds and are making a life worth living.

If they can do it, so can I.



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22 Apr 2011, 9:46 am

skafather84 wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
tk5800 wrote:
... why cant i, i have the capacity to do so so why dont i?

I do not know, but I have the same deal. Overall, maybe my rational mind simply refuses to believe there is truly no hope at all.


That's an illusion. So long as you're alive, there's hope.

This.

I do that too, draelynn. Well, I don't go looking for it, but I think about it.