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02 Jun 2011, 8:55 pm

long story short i've had trouble with constipation my whole life, my mom had to give me mineral oil when i was a baby. for 24 years i have dealt with this.

me and my mom thought i had an iron disease "that i can't spell" i went to the doctor and we told him everything from then till now, and he told me something that sounded far worse then a disease.

he told me i could have another disease or something where the nerves in the colon don't develop right and over time the colon becomes weak, and he said that in time the magnessium citrate that i'm taken now will stop working in time.

i have to go through 2 tests, one where i have to swallow some chalky crap, i've drank it before so know what to expect. the other scares me a bit, during the second one i have to take a pill and get x-rayed 3 times during a weeks period, the pill does something with rings, and if there are more the five by the last x-ray, i've got a serious problem. he's also taking a biopsy.

and the only option i have is major surgery to have my colon removed. i've never had major surgery before, so i'm terrified. but i'm going to go through with it i'm tired of being in constant pain.

also my diet has to change, mostly i need to drink more the 8 oz a day [not lying that's about all i drink on average] it's tough trying to beat this into my thick skull, but i'm trying [i may need a drill though].

so just keep me in your thoughts, i'm stubborn and strong willed but even that breaks down some days [it's not often but it happens].



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02 Jun 2011, 9:27 pm

I'm sorry for you. Are you sure that surgery is really necesary? I've heard a lot of Aspies have bowel problems. When I was young I was pretty irregular. I would go maybe o ce a week. When I was about 24 I started drinking water regularly and it helped a lot. I need to drink more than 8 onz water (water, not juice, soda or beverages) to keep it going. My Aspie daughter also have problems. Taking care of you diet (fruits, veggies, fiber) helps a lot, too. Wish you well.



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02 Jun 2011, 11:48 pm

a lady i know from animal work has a son who had his colon removed about a year ago. it was a big change for him but she says he is glad he had the surgery. just takes some getting used to.

hang in there ----- hope things go well for you.



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03 Jun 2011, 12:08 am

Ilka wrote:
I'm sorry for you. Are you sure that surgery is really necesary? I've heard a lot of Aspies have bowel problems. When I was young I was pretty irregular. I would go maybe o ce a week. When I was about 24 I started drinking water regularly and it helped a lot. I need to drink more than 8 onz water (water, not juice, soda or beverages) to keep it going. My Aspie daughter also have problems. Taking care of you diet (fruits, veggies, fiber) helps a lot, too. Wish you well.


well that's why he's doing the tests, to see how bad off i am, but my constipation is bad, when you can drink half a bottle of magnesium citrate and not need to live in the bathroom, then you've got problems and lately i've been able to do just that.

i'm not just irregular, there are days where i just cannot go at all or even feel like i need to or can.

besides i always prepare for the worst case scenario no matter what, it helps to ease my mind if there is nothing worse then i'm planing for.

and water is out of the question, it tastes horrible. it's either lemon lime soda or nothing. besides soda is water anyway just with extra stuff that tastes good.



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03 Jun 2011, 1:28 am

Sorry to hear about that xemnasfan; I hope the investigations come back ok.

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and water is out of the question, it tastes horrible. it's either lemon lime soda or nothing. besides soda is water anyway just with extra stuff that tastes good.


I hate water too. My dentist recommended 'flavoured water'- some brands still have sugar in them but they do taste nicer. End of the day, if you think of it as 'medicine', it's a small price to pay if it saves you from having to have an operation!

Good luck!!



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03 Jun 2011, 11:03 am

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besides i always prepare for the worst case scenario no matter what, it helps to ease my mind if there is nothing worse then i'm planing for.

and water is out of the question, it tastes horrible. it's either lemon lime soda or nothing. besides soda is water anyway just with extra stuff that tastes good.


My husband does that. He always paints the worst scenario. I think it's a sad way of living. That's something I do not like about him, but I guess he is my opposite. I always think about the best scenario and he about the worst.

If you do not find the way to overcoming your aversion for water you will have endless troubles. This is just the beginning. We need water to survive. Beverages cannot replace water.

I wake up at 4:30 am every week day. I do not like to, but I have to. It is something I have to do. You can see drinking water the same way. You do not like to, but you have it. You body needs it. We all have to do things we do not like to do.

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03 Jun 2011, 11:23 am

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Sorry to hear about that xemnasfan; I hope the investigations come back ok.

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and water is out of the question, it tastes horrible. it's either lemon lime soda or nothing. besides soda is water anyway just with extra stuff that tastes good.


I hate water too. My dentist recommended 'flavoured water'- some brands still have sugar in them but they do taste nicer. End of the day, if you think of it as 'medicine', it's a small price to pay if it saves you from having to have an operation!

Good luck!!


if it comes to drinking water or having surgery i'd rather have the surgery.



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03 Jun 2011, 11:30 am

Hirschsprung's? That's probably what the biopsy would be to test for.

I had an idiopathic megacolon that resulted in me getting an ileostomy at age 14.

If there is only a small section of colon to remove, they can just snip it out and hook things back up. If they need to take out a large amount there are a lot of alternatives out there now with different types of internal pouches, so I would just make sure to get a few different opinions from different colorectal surgeons. Doctors tell me I'm not a good canidate for any of those as they would not expect them to work well with my problems.

An ostomy is the most extreme solution and many people freak out about the thought of it. But as long as I take care of it, I've had very few problems. My life with my ileostomy is a million times better than what I went through before I got it, so I am happy with it. I've had it 22 years now.



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03 Jun 2011, 12:30 pm

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if it comes to drinking water or having surgery i'd rather have the surgery.


I think that may be a little short sighted. They can't replace your colon if you change your mind.

Hopefully it won't come to that, but I suggest you do a lot of research on colectomies and what they entail.



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03 Jun 2011, 3:57 pm

xemnasfan wrote:
long story short i've had trouble with constipation my whole life, my mom had to give me mineral oil when i was a baby. for 24 years i have dealt with this.

me and my mom thought i had an iron disease "that i can't spell" i went to the doctor and we told him everything from then till now, and he told me something that sounded far worse then a disease.

he told me i could have another disease or something where the nerves in the colon don't develop right and over time the colon becomes weak, and he said that in time the magnessium citrate that i'm taken now will stop working in time.

i have to go through 2 tests, one where i have to swallow some chalky crap, i've drank it before so know what to expect. the other scares me a bit, during the second one i have to take a pill and get x-rayed 3 times during a weeks period, the pill does something with rings, and if there are more the five by the last x-ray, i've got a serious problem. he's also taking a biopsy.

and the only option i have is major surgery to have my colon removed. i've never had major surgery before, so i'm terrified. but i'm going to go through with it i'm tired of being in constant pain.

also my diet has to change, mostly i need to drink more the 8 oz a day [not lying that's about all i drink on average] it's tough trying to beat this into my thick skull, but i'm trying [i may need a drill though].

so just keep me in your thoughts, i'm stubborn and strong willed but even that breaks down some days [it's not often but it happens].


That right there could very well be your problem. You should be drinking half your body weight in ounces every day. Have you tried removing waste from a waterless toilet? I'm no medical expert, but I suspect that your colon is the same way.

Also, eat fiber.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber

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03 Jun 2011, 3:58 pm

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if it comes to drinking water or having surgery i'd rather have the surgery.


I think that may be a little short sighted. They can't replace your colon if you change your mind.

Hopefully it won't come to that, but I suggest you do a lot of research on colectomies and what they entail.


this is the way i see it adapting to the godawful taste of water, means i have to do something. with the surgery i don't have to do anything, as for after-effects i'll cross that bridge when i get there.

i'm not looking into it, stuff like that disturbs me. if it comes to that i'd rather not know anything about it.

the less things i have to do the less anzity i get, good or bad i like it.



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04 Jun 2011, 2:39 am

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this is the way i see it adapting to the godawful taste of water, means i have to do something. with the surgery i don't have to do anything, as for after-effects i'll cross that bridge when i get there.

i'm not looking into it, stuff like that disturbs me. if it comes to that i'd rather not know anything about it.

the less things i have to do the less anzity i get, good or bad i like it.


Your choice I guess... :?



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04 Jun 2011, 12:36 pm

yep i make bad choices but at least i making them at my own choice.



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04 Jun 2011, 8:00 pm

I really would get a second opinion on this, perhaps from a doctor who has done some research into Autism and bowel related problems, because the two go hand in hand I assure you. IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) covers a wide range of intestinal issues people with ASDs often suffer with.

I've been lucky, but I went to an ASD specific school, and a good 40% of the kids there had these kinds of issues.

There HAS to be better ways to deal with the problem apart from having your colon removed, which will no doubt leave you with more problems. Unless the problem could lead to cancer, or is cancerous, I wouldn't recommend having it done at all. I think this major surgery could cause you more pain, and lead to you having to manage another disability. You may land up with a colostomy and having to live on a highly restrictive diet.

I would also think about seeing a diet specialist, because many gut problems can be treated or even eliminated via dietary measures.

If you eat a lot of dairy (milk, cheese etc) I would cut that right out as it is often a baddie for stomach issues, and also you could be gluten intolarant, no end of people with ASDs have problems with gluten, so it may also be worth looking into a gluten free diet as well.

You must drink water, but water can easily be disguised by adding something like a sugar free squash or even a quarter of a fruit juice like orange or apple juice, diluted with water. So this way you're still getting your daily amount of water, without having to manage the taste. I would make sure to use sugar free squash though, as the sugary ones are not good for teeth, and can help put on weight.



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04 Jun 2011, 9:05 pm

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I really would get a second opinion on this, perhaps from a doctor who has done some research into Autism and bowel related problems, because the two go hand in hand I assure you. IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) covers a wide range of intestinal issues people with ASDs often suffer with.

I've been lucky, but I went to an ASD specific school, and a good 40% of the kids there had these kinds of issues.

There HAS to be better ways to deal with the problem apart from having your colon removed, which will no doubt leave you with more problems. Unless the problem could lead to cancer, or is cancerous, I wouldn't recommend having it done at all. I think this major surgery could cause you more pain, and lead to you having to manage another disability. You may land up with a colostomy and having to live on a highly restrictive diet.

I would also think about seeing a diet specialist, because many gut problems can be treated or even eliminated via dietary measures.

If you eat a lot of dairy (milk, cheese etc) I would cut that right out as it is often a baddie for stomach issues, and also you could be gluten intolarant, no end of people with ASDs have problems with gluten, so it may also be worth looking into a gluten free diet as well.

You must drink water, but water can easily be disguised by adding something like a sugar free squash or even a quarter of a fruit juice like orange or apple juice, diluted with water. So this way you're still getting your daily amount of water, without having to manage the taste. I would make sure to use sugar free squash though, as the sugary ones are not good for teeth, and can help put on weight.


trust me when i say this me my docters and my family have been looking into my problems for years, we have ruled out almost everything even ibs, he only brought this up because everything else has been tried and tested for, this is basicly the last thing that makes sense. if i had ibs then i would have had stomach pains my whole life, because i haven't gone a day without constipation problems. but i didn't have stomach aches my whole life.

i already have 1 disability why not 2. my doctor also said this surgery isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but he wants to try and avoid it only because he doesn't want to remove something that isn't broken, but he also said if i do have this nerve disorder the surgery will be nessecary, because there is no treatment. that's why he's putting me through these tests, if the tests come back normal then we look for yet another solution.

but by now i'm looking for relief of any kind that doesn't take years to start working, fiber, diet, water, that takes years and my colon has already been damaged by the laxitives i took for 5 years straight, with diet alone it will take years for me to heal. and at this point i don't want to wait anymore, i'm tired of being in pain, of being misserable, of trying so many fixes and not seeing any end in sight, even if there is just a 10% chance of and end to my pain i'm going to risk it, i've tried diet, nothing i try right now works.

i've already been on a restrictive diet and i'm not going back there again.