Why do other people have such an effect on mental health?

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03 Jun 2011, 1:26 pm

Ok so I came to the conclusion one of the main reasons I lack motivation, other then the general lack of motivation that comes with depression. For most of my childhood I tried to do everything as well as I could, I mean I did well at school as far as grades went and I liked to actually research and study things at an early age(I even taught myself to read when I was 5). nd my mom had me go to sunday school because she went to church...and a lot of times I disagreed with some of what they said and questioned it because I like to think about things not just memorize whatever I am told. I also had teachers dislike me for having that attitude......Other students did not like me, I mean here I was the person taking things seriously and using crtical thinking. And I commonly got called stupid, ret*d, dumb or really any word someone would use to indicate someone lacks intelligence. Most of my early teachers where not pleasent to me I mean my first experiance in some sort of pre-school class I was in this teacher did anything she could to alienate me from the other kids because I was a little different.

So yeah I guess basically I have intelligence, but I come off as unusual and so people have never taken me seriously, I've always been branded a failure and just some idiot who tries too hard....so yeah now as an adult its hard for even me to take myself seriously. I mean at this point I feel like I want to go through college, and I want to try to do something with my life...like maybe get involved with some of the issues I do care about rather then just being aware of things but doing nothing because I don't have enough experiance or any other excuse I will convince myself must be true. But I guess after years of having people define you as stupid. clueless, disagreeable, generally unpleasent or whatever else it has its effects. I mean how am I supposed to take myself seriously if thats what I am going to face whenever I try to accomplish something....simply because I have a mental condition that affects my social interaction. I know I have to try and get past it, and I know none of them where correct(they where just bricks in the wall) but it had effects on me when I was developing as a child and adolecent and it makes me angry. I don't feel like I did anything to them....and yet they could not leave me alone and let me have a healthy childhood so as a result things got worse and worse and now I am not sure if I can let go of all that and move on.

If anyone has had simular experiances or advice on how to maybe overcome that sort of thing feel free to post.



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04 Jun 2011, 12:01 am

My family and teachers had that same effect on me. Everything got to me to the point that I was diagnosed with Depression and Psychosis at the age of 23. Nobody expected anything from me. I was cast off as a slow learner who would never get anywhere in life without any help. It only took me until the October of 2009 to recover. I did that by accepting everything about me and letting myself be the sweet, vulnerable Mod that I am. :)


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04 Jun 2011, 12:26 pm

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My family and teachers had that same effect on me. Everything got to me to the point that I was diagnosed with Depression and Psychosis at the age of 23. Nobody expected anything from me. I was cast off as a slow learner who would never get anywhere in life without any help. It only took me until the October of 2009 to recover. I did that by accepting everything about me and letting myself be the sweet, vulnerable Mod that I am. :)


Yeah I am sort of trying to just accept myself and forget about all that.....but all those memories seem to have a life of their own so even if I don't think about being in public school and how horrible it was. its like my mind just finds another way to have it effect me....like now i don't even know if I can take myself seriously at all. I mean what if I am not as smart as I think I am and they where right and Im just setting myself up for dissapointment by going to college(which is likely).



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05 Jun 2011, 9:49 am

Used to get belted or caned every day at school by the teachers.

And used to have fights every day with the other kids.

However, you have to learn to put it behind you and toughen up.



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05 Jun 2011, 11:23 am

ProudAspie wrote:
Used to get belted or caned every day at school by the teachers.

And used to have fights every day with the other kids.

However, you have to learn to put it behind you and toughen up.


Yeah what do you think I have been trying to do for the past 5 years? It would seem that does not really work....I mean psychological damage was done if I could go back and be a tough kid I would then maybe I would not have been weak enough to be damaged in the first place.



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05 Jun 2011, 12:06 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
ProudAspie wrote:
Used to get belted or caned every day at school by the teachers.

And used to have fights every day with the other kids.

However, you have to learn to put it behind you and toughen up.


Yeah what do you think I have been trying to do for the past 5 years? It would seem that does not really work....I mean psychological damage was done if I could go back and be a tough kid I would then maybe I would not have been weak enough to be damaged in the first place.


Just move on............. the past is another country.

Try to see the funny side of it all. A bit of gallows humour can get you through anything.

PS Give boxing or Karate a go, as suggested before, as it is a good release for pent up aggression,, the exercise will get the endomorphines going and it will improve your posure and demenour so that you do not look like a victim.



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05 Jun 2011, 12:19 pm

ProudAspie wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
ProudAspie wrote:
Used to get belted or caned every day at school by the teachers.

And used to have fights every day with the other kids.

However, you have to learn to put it behind you and toughen up.


Yeah what do you think I have been trying to do for the past 5 years? It would seem that does not really work....I mean psychological damage was done if I could go back and be a tough kid I would then maybe I would not have been weak enough to be damaged in the first place.


Just move on............. the past is another country.

Try to see the funny side of it all. A bit of gallows humour can get you through anything.

PS Give boxing or Karate a go, as suggested before, as it is a good release for pent up aggression,, the exercise will get the endomorphines going and it will improve your posure and demenour so that you do not look like a victim.


Did you even read my post.....its about how as much as I would like to get over it all I cant because of the damage it did. Yes I can try to think of the positives and still continue with my life but I cannot forget about all that. And I think I would suck at those things.....not to mention other people participate and could tell me how much I suck. I prefer to let out negative energy by listening to metal and headbanging/moshing to it even if I am just moshing with the air, I can do it alone and no one will criticize me for it.

But yeah I guess I am a little dissapointed that the only advice I seem to be getting is 'just get over it' as it seems like people aren't getting how hard that is.



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05 Jun 2011, 12:40 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
ProudAspie wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
ProudAspie wrote:
Used to get belted or caned every day at school by the teachers.

And used to have fights every day with the other kids.

However, you have to learn to put it behind you and toughen up.


Yeah what do you think I have been trying to do for the past 5 years? It would seem that does not really work....I mean psychological damage was done if I could go back and be a tough kid I would then maybe I would not have been weak enough to be damaged in the first place.


Just move on............. the past is another country.

Try to see the funny side of it all. A bit of gallows humour can get you through anything.

PS Give boxing or Karate a go, as suggested before, as it is a good release for pent up aggression,, the exercise will get the endomorphines going and it will improve your posure and demenour so that you do not look like a victim.


Did you even read my post.....its about how as much as I would like to get over it all I cant because of the damage it did. Yes I can try to think of the positives and still continue with my life but I cannot forget about all that. And I think I would suck at those things.....not to mention other people participate and could tell me how much I suck. I prefer to let out negative energy by listening to metal and headbanging/moshing to it even if I am just moshing with the air, I can do it alone and no one will criticize me for it.

But yeah I guess I am a little dissapointed that the only advice I seem to be getting is 'just get over it' as it seems like people aren't getting how hard that is.


Sorry, I am not too good at sympathy... my capacity for it seemed to reduce when I was working in refugee camps and with internally displaced people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Its your life, best of luck.



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05 Jun 2011, 12:52 pm

ProudAspie wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
ProudAspie wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
ProudAspie wrote:
Used to get belted or caned every day at school by the teachers.

And used to have fights every day with the other kids.

However, you have to learn to put it behind you and toughen up.


Yeah what do you think I have been trying to do for the past 5 years? It would seem that does not really work....I mean psychological damage was done if I could go back and be a tough kid I would then maybe I would not have been weak enough to be damaged in the first place.


Just move on............. the past is another country.

Try to see the funny side of it all. A bit of gallows humour can get you through anything.

PS Give boxing or Karate a go, as suggested before, as it is a good release for pent up aggression,, the exercise will get the endomorphines going and it will improve your posure and demenour so that you do not look like a victim.


Did you even read my post.....its about how as much as I would like to get over it all I cant because of the damage it did. Yes I can try to think of the positives and still continue with my life but I cannot forget about all that. And I think I would suck at those things.....not to mention other people participate and could tell me how much I suck. I prefer to let out negative energy by listening to metal and headbanging/moshing to it even if I am just moshing with the air, I can do it alone and no one will criticize me for it.

But yeah I guess I am a little dissapointed that the only advice I seem to be getting is 'just get over it' as it seems like people aren't getting how hard that is.


Sorry, I am not too good at sympathy... my capacity for it seemed to reduce when I was working in refugee camps and with internally displaced people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Its your life, best of luck.


I don't care about sympathy.....that does not do me any good, its just for my entire life I've just been told 'get over it'.....and I don't know how or can't, not to mention this usually came from people who had no understanding of how I felt. So I guess I was just hoping for some advice on how to maybe move on rather then more 'just get over it' with no advice on how to do that.