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28 Nov 2011, 4:33 pm

I mean when I was younger life seemed to make more sense, or maybe I was just not under as much pressure to have a life that made sense. I don't really like talking to some people in my family because they always want to know if I have a job, how I'm doing in college, what I want in life and all that and I don't have a clue.

I am dropping out of college, not a very positive conversation peice to bring up at thanksgiving dinner I guess...and I have no idea if I can find a job or not, and having a job is not my ultimate goal in life at all but if I want to get by in the current system I kind of need income I guess.......makes no sense to me anymore, I need worthless paper to buy things with or apparently the entire universe will collapse at least that is the impression I get sometimes by peoples reactions. I guess economics and politcs are also topics not to bring up at thanksgiving dinner..........


But anyways I am just really confused about life and it kind of bothers me because I have no idea were to go from here, if there were not so many people I cared about I would be contemplating suicide about now.....and of course I'm so twisted I almost see that as a nuisince I mean if only there was no one I cared about I could just get it over with. I mean what the hell, why did I have to be born into a world that makes no freaking sense to me? I mean I don't think there is any therapy or drugs that can cure me of this problem.


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28 Nov 2011, 4:50 pm

the world doesn't make sense to anyone it's not to be understood why we are here exept that we feel things and in feeling we can know things even if we don't understand them.



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28 Nov 2011, 4:57 pm

thedaywalker wrote:
the world doesn't make sense to anyone it's not to be understood why we are here exept that we feel things and in feeling we can know things even if we don't understand them.


Well technically, but still I feel like I should at least some idea of something i might want to do.


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28 Nov 2011, 5:01 pm

The difference between the responsibilities of a kid and an adult in my opinion is freedom.

As a kid, the norm for a lot of places anyway is homework, school, studying, tests, extra curricular activities and sometimes making friends.

You don't have to go to college, you don't even have to have a normal job, but unfortunately you do need money in order to buy things that you need.

Life is hard, but there are ways to get what you want. But yeah--you must try to play it smart to the best of your abilities.

These systems aren't all there is to life, they are a means to an end in order to achieve some of your goals.

I'm sorry some of these things are hard right now. I understand you don't know where you're going right now.. but this is what potential is--several things that you haven't learned or expanded upon yet. You have a great deal of it, you are young yet.

People do care about you.. but the flipside is true for you also, you must deeply care for them. There must be some things that you like, some part of the world that is worth hanging on to.



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28 Nov 2011, 5:13 pm

Greatsharkbite wrote:
The difference between the responsibilities of a kid and an adult in my opinion is freedom.

As a kid, the norm for a lot of places anyway is homework, school, studying, tests, extra curricular activities and sometimes making friends.

You don't have to go to college, you don't even have to have a normal job, but unfortunately you do need money in order to buy things that you need.

Life is hard, but there are ways to get what you want. But yeah--you must try to play it smart to the best of your abilities.

These systems aren't all there is to life, they are a means to an end in order to achieve some of your goals.

I'm sorry some of these things are hard right now. I understand you don't know where you're going right now.. but this is what potential is--several things that you haven't learned or expanded upon yet. You have a great deal of it, you are young yet.

People do care about you.. but the flipside is true for you also, you must deeply care for them. There must be some things that you like, some part of the world that is worth hanging on to.


Yeah its the needing to be a part of a society I completely disagree with in order to buy the things I need.....seems pretty hellish to me. Also I don't know how to play it smart really because I don't really know how to understand all those social rules and such that everyone seems to get and be able to take advantage of and even hold over my head so I can feel stupid.

I never expected life to be easy, but a break every once in a while would be nice.........but no everything just gets more complex, stressfull and confusing and it does disturb me because I can't expect to go on like this for the rest of my life.

Also what goals? I don't even have enough direction to form any freaking goals.......there are various things I would like to do or think I would like to do but nothing really definite that I can really seem to motivate myself enough to pursue. and things aren't just hard right now my whole life has been nothing but difficult and yeah I might still be rather young but I'm almost freaking 23 I still don't even feel 22...

and like I said I care about too many people to off myself........otherwise there would not be much other then music and cannabis to keep me going and even that does not help much with lonliness.


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28 Nov 2011, 6:10 pm

:wall: :wall: :skull: :shrug:


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28 Nov 2011, 6:27 pm

Even when you get older life doesn't necessarily make sense, but you can cope with it. Marijuana and music are great places to spend your time.
Don't worry about what people think of you; take care of yourself.



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28 Nov 2011, 6:30 pm

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Even when you get older life doesn't necessarily make sense, but you can cope with it. Marijuana and music are great places to spend your time.
Don't worry about what people think of you; take care of yourself.


Well yeah I hope I can cope with it, but I don't feel like its a garantee........and quite frankly I'm thinking some whiskey sounds good about now.


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28 Nov 2011, 6:43 pm

Hellish? In some instances it is. I'm 25 and i've had a "job" before at a restaurant that my mom owned. Then have been unemployed for over a year, I have finally earned my own job just a month ago. There is a sense of pride--not as a measurement of whether I was good enough to fit into society, but because of my own "developed" ability.

There are social nuances, i'm not really aware of them myself. But something small like getting a job can lead up to enough to do something big. A goal I know you've mentioned is gaining independence and not living in your mom's house because you hate being around when she's fighting with her boyfriend.

If you love your family enough to live for them, maybe that sort of drive can be something to inspire you to find other things that are worth living for.



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28 Nov 2011, 6:46 pm

Whisky and some good marijuana often help me.

Life is one moment at a time. Just get through the next moment and the next ... and try to enjoy as much of it as you can.

That's not to say you shouldn't think about the future. That monetary devil is always there. If you have access to mental health services, use it. There are things you can do to make things easier.



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28 Nov 2011, 7:01 pm

Greatsharkbite wrote:
Hellish? In some instances it is. I'm 25 and i've had a "job" before at a restaurant that my mom owned. Then have been unemployed for over a year, I have finally earned my own job just a month ago. There is a sense of pride--not as a measurement of whether I was good enough to fit into society, but because of my own "developed" ability.

There are social nuances, i'm not really aware of them myself. But something small like getting a job can lead up to enough to do something big. A goal I know you've mentioned is gaining independence and not living in your mom's house because you hate being around when she's fighting with her boyfriend.

If you love your family enough to live for them, maybe that sort of drive can be something to inspire you to find other things that are worth living for.


Well unfortunatly my whole family is not all that supportive or anything......but yeah I was also including friends in people I care about. Don't know if I can ever find anything that will actually convince me life is worth living. And sure I would like to find another living situation but its rather hard to do that with no income.


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28 Nov 2011, 8:19 pm

I relate to what you say about society being totally screwed and the pointlessness of living in it, those thoughts have haunted me for years. The only reason I kept living a few years ago was because I didn't want to traumatize the few people who still care about me, maybe that will keep you going, who knows. Its a crappy reason to stick around, but more recently I also find myself feeling better when I think about how messed up society is, and how I am better than the NTs swarming around me like livestock; if people want to get pepper sprayed for cheap electronics they don't need, that sad, but at least I'm not involved.
I feel drawn to your posts because you express so much of the frustration I've felt over the last decade or so, and you do it eloquently (which is how I know I agree with you so well). To be honest, feeling this way has almost ended me, but I found some peace and purpose in work where I am basically helping to build better bridges, reduce pollution, prevent pointless tax spending, and identify government waste and conflicts of interest all in one. I may not contribute a lot, but all of those things are at least a positive change. I hope you can find the same, because you sound lost right now.
Honestly, you know what you know and what you believe, there are ways of getting by without conforming to the social norms, you can survive without a job if you choose to or only work for the basics, and you don't need college either. My advise is to be selfish for a while, take care of yourself, but do what you want, your way, and hopefully you can find yourself through that. Maybe you can turn your frustration into motivation to find your way, life the way you think it should be, without society's guidance or approval, f*** society, live life how you see fit. The advantage of being in your 20s is that you are in charge of you.
More and more people are coming around to see that society is sick, and more will follow if they can see a better, more simple life in action. Most people, I'd say NTs in particular, are stuck with what works for them until someone can convince them otherwise. Perhaps you can find purpose in helping others understand a better existance, even if it is by simply living it.



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28 Nov 2011, 8:23 pm

oh yeah, and that...

Ann2011 wrote:
Whisky and some good marijuana often help me.


some things are just better to wash away for the time being, deal with them later.



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28 Nov 2011, 9:06 pm

I can see how you feel this way. I think finding relationships with similar minded people could help you feel better. I think actual people are in the end more important than how you're supposed to "fit in" to society in the economic sense. In the end a job that gets you money is just a way to survive. Everything else is more important.



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29 Nov 2011, 1:28 am

BigBadBrad wrote:
I relate to what you say about society being totally screwed and the pointlessness of living in it, those thoughts have haunted me for years. The only reason I kept living a few years ago was because I didn't want to traumatize the few people who still care about me, maybe that will keep you going, who knows. Its a crappy reason to stick around, but more recently I also find myself feeling better when I think about how messed up society is, and how I am better than the NTs swarming around me like livestock; if people want to get pepper sprayed for cheap electronics they don't need, that sad, but at least I'm not involved.
I feel drawn to your posts because you express so much of the frustration I've felt over the last decade or so, and you do it eloquently (which is how I know I agree with you so well). To be honest, feeling this way has almost ended me, but I found some peace and purpose in work where I am basically helping to build better bridges, reduce pollution, prevent pointless tax spending, and identify government waste and conflicts of interest all in one. I may not contribute a lot, but all of those things are at least a positive change. I hope you can find the same, because you sound lost right now.
Honestly, you know what you know and what you believe, there are ways of getting by without conforming to the social norms, you can survive without a job if you choose to or only work for the basics, and you don't need college either. My advise is to be selfish for a while, take care of yourself, but do what you want, your way, and hopefully you can find yourself through that. Maybe you can turn your frustration into motivation to find your way, life the way you think it should be, without society's guidance or approval, f*** society, live life how you see fit. The advantage of being in your 20s is that you are in charge of you.
More and more people are coming around to see that society is sick, and more will follow if they can see a better, more simple life in action. Most people, I'd say NTs in particular, are stuck with what works for them until someone can convince them otherwise. Perhaps you can find purpose in helping others understand a better existance, even if it is by simply living it.


Uhh I know all this I just never wanted to have to die for something.....................but now they are trying to approve martial law in my country, and I can't just sit around and pretend I don't care. I mean its BS whats going on and I want to do something about it.


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29 Nov 2011, 2:31 am

ok to put it bluntly I feel like Alice in Wonderland..........except its more like Sweetleaf in Hellland.


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