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04 Dec 2011, 5:44 am

I cannot BELIEVE how mean some people can be on this forum. I realise I can't repeat the posts or the topic - but FFS when someone comes on here - even to put down the label itself, they're looking for sympathy, not a load of twats who actually bully the person who is only looking for help. I can't believe you people. AS *is* a disorder, or the label itself wouldn't bloody exist.



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04 Dec 2011, 6:41 am

I apologize for my species. I normaly find people pretty decent here, but maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. (jinxed it, thousands of jerks will now appear)


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04 Dec 2011, 6:50 am

Some people are like that. It's kind of sad, but more sad that they get their kicks from being awful to others.



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04 Dec 2011, 6:55 am

AS is the brain itself and the the fact that it's structured differently to NT's. Some people feel that when you call AS a disease, you are calling *them* a disease.

If you want some other labels, then lets see; emo, f**, s*** **** ****. None of these things are disorders, and yet, the labels exists.

In the scientific defintion it is a disease, the same way deppression is labeled as a disease. But, alot of people would rather emphasise the fact that they are *people*. That's all it is.


I probably shouldn't mouth off without knowing what happened though : |

Is there another forum where you can get as angry as you like at them? Works for me.



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04 Dec 2011, 8:06 am

emlion wrote:
Some people are like that. It's kind of sad, but more sad that they get their kicks from being awful to others.


^This

Even at my age, people still manage to shock me. :(



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04 Dec 2011, 9:56 am

On the other hand, I really enjoy the capacity of most posters to look at the odd flame-y post and go, "hm. aaand back to business". It's nice that most don't feed the trolls.



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04 Dec 2011, 11:04 am

smudge wrote:
I cannot BELIEVE how mean some people can be on this forum. I realise I can't repeat the posts or the topic - but FFS when someone comes on here - even to put down the label itself, they're looking for sympathy, not a load of twats who actually bully the person who is only looking for help. I can't believe you people. AS *is* a disorder, or the label itself wouldn't bloody exist.


I do agree with you. People can get pretty bad sometimes, some people might not even know they're hurting others feelings though. I experience misconceptions all the time but at the end of the day it's what I think that matters. Please don't let yourself get down because of someone who just doesn't get how you feel, I think there are understanding people on the forums too. I do personally get annoyed by people who are higher functioning than me acting as if the diagnosis is not a disability. If someone is just different and has an AS DX because of that than maybe they don't need it is the mentality, which in a way is also wrong towards them. I know I need it because I have a lot of problems that interfere with my ability to properly look after myself and live a stable/fulfilling life. It'd be nice if someone higher functioning wasn't criticizing my personal experiences with AS just because they don't have them. I know that people like to look outside the label at themselves as a person and I like to too, but I know at the end of the day I have a lot to deal with. Which is why the label exists so I can get help.



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04 Dec 2011, 2:45 pm

This type of child like behavior from other Adults is pretty much why nothing can surprise me anymore.



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04 Dec 2011, 8:49 pm

smudge wrote:
I cannot BELIEVE how mean some people can be on this forum. I realise I can't repeat the posts or the topic - but FFS when someone comes on here - even to put down the label itself, they're looking for sympathy, not a load of twats who actually bully the person who is only looking for help. I can't believe you people. AS *is* a disorder, or the label itself wouldn't bloody exist.


I am not sure what you are talking about because I haven't noticed. If I am one of those people, I am not trying to be mean. I don't say things to be mean. I just give out my honest opinions and if I am so afraid it offend others, I don't say it at all. I say nothing because I refuse to say things people want to hear so I don't say it at all.



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04 Dec 2011, 10:07 pm

Haven't noticed it. :(



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05 Dec 2011, 12:53 am

I think it just might come with AS package. Saying what you think directly without considering emotional outcome. Also many people have this cynical note. Some may take everything only on theoretical level and they find it difficult to empathize. I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to do that on the wide view. It is just that I don't think that AS people are good in comforting, supporting all that. But they are well meaning - it's always difficult to show that but not so to spot the otherwise. And many AS people, as I noticed, just get the urge to spit what they have on their minds out w/o much consideration.



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05 Dec 2011, 1:26 am

mar00 wrote:
I think it just might come with AS package. Saying what you think directly without considering emotional outcome. Also many people have this cynical note. Some may take everything only on theoretical level and they find it difficult to empathize. I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to do that on the wide view. It is just that I don't think that AS people are good in comforting, supporting all that. But they are well meaning - it's always difficult to show that but not so to spot the otherwise. And many AS people, as I noticed, just get the urge to spit what they have on their minds out w/o much consideration.



Or they might just be mean.



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05 Dec 2011, 1:52 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
mar00 wrote:
I think it just might come with AS package. Saying what you think directly without considering emotional outcome. Also many people have this cynical note. Some may take everything only on theoretical level and they find it difficult to empathize. I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to do that on the wide view. It is just that I don't think that AS people are good in comforting, supporting all that. But they are well meaning - it's always difficult to show that but not so to spot the otherwise. And many AS people, as I noticed, just get the urge to spit what they have on their minds out w/o much consideration.



Or they might just be mean.

Why would anyone be mean to someone they don't know over the internet?



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05 Dec 2011, 2:20 am

mar00 wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
mar00 wrote:
I think it just might come with AS package. Saying what you think directly without considering emotional outcome. Also many people have this cynical note. Some may take everything only on theoretical level and they find it difficult to empathize. I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to do that on the wide view. It is just that I don't think that AS people are good in comforting, supporting all that. But they are well meaning - it's always difficult to show that but not so to spot the otherwise. And many AS people, as I noticed, just get the urge to spit what they have on their minds out w/o much consideration.



Or they might just be mean.

Why would anyone be mean to someone they don't know over the internet?


Fun.



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05 Dec 2011, 2:57 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
mar00 wrote:
I think it just might come with AS package. Saying what you think directly without considering emotional outcome. Also many people have this cynical note. Some may take everything only on theoretical level and they find it difficult to empathize. I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to do that on the wide view. It is just that I don't think that AS people are good in comforting, supporting all that. But they are well meaning - it's always difficult to show that but not so to spot the otherwise. And many AS people, as I noticed, just get the urge to spit what they have on their minds out w/o much consideration.



Or they might just be mean.


People on the spectrum have a tendency to be brutally honest or direct without any awareness of the emotional consequences but I don't think this is always the case, we can't simply excuse a personal insult. It doesn't surprise me that people are willing to go below the belt or use the insecurities of others to empower themselves.



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06 Dec 2011, 2:07 am

mar00 wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
mar00 wrote:
I think it just might come with AS package. Saying what you think directly without considering emotional outcome. Also many people have this cynical note. Some may take everything only on theoretical level and they find it difficult to empathize. I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to do that on the wide view. It is just that I don't think that AS people are good in comforting, supporting all that. But they are well meaning - it's always difficult to show that but not so to spot the otherwise. And many AS people, as I noticed, just get the urge to spit what they have on their minds out w/o much consideration.



Or they might just be mean.

Why would anyone be mean to someone they don't know over the internet?



Because they don't care. they think just because you are anonymous and they will never see you in real life, your feelings don't matter so they don't care. That's where all the "internet serious business" stuff comes from when people get upset over stuff they read online or what people say to them online. Plus some people use it as a place to take their anger out on strangers online when they have had a bad say at work or something or got into an argument with their husband over stuff. They think it's better to take it out online than on their own kids or people they love. Plus I think those people are cowards when they say stuff online to peoples faces they wouldn't say to people in real life.