Kid had seizure today at Rally

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09 Dec 2011, 2:59 pm

At my school we had a rally bout half an hour ago and a kid had a seizure i never saw one before it happened right in front of me, it was pretty scary we had to evacuate the building


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09 Dec 2011, 4:44 pm

Why did you have to evacuate the building? What do you mean by a rally?

I hope the person who had the seizure is ok now.



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09 Dec 2011, 6:10 pm

In the rare event the person starts to have trouble breathing, you can do the chin and jaw lift.

--> I'm going to go with the below that the most important thing is to roll the person onto their side, in case that he or she throws up, you don't want them to choke on their own vomit. (Sorry, it is impolite, but it's worse to choke) The gentle chin lift might be more of a nicety after the person is resting comfortably. <--




Only need to do assisted breathing if the person is in fact not breath. Place face over nose and mouth as you look at chest.

Most people who have seizures are going to be okay, although it looks scary.


(Several years ago, in thinking about going into paramedics, I studied some books. That's as far as I got.)



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09 Dec 2011, 7:36 pm

Marcia wrote:
Why did you have to evacuate the building? What do you mean by a rally?

I hope the person who had the seizure is ok now.


we evacuated the building so the paramedics could get in the school made a REALLY bad fire and safety hazard by overcrowding the gym with more students than its supposed to hold i assume thats why the kid had the seizure

we were having a school rally didn't pay much attention though because i hate crowded areas then it ended after the seizure so yeah


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09 Dec 2011, 8:29 pm

i have never witnessed a seizure. one of my friends had one on a plane but he didn't go into details. it seems like it would be a scary experience for the person who has it.



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09 Dec 2011, 8:38 pm

I had some seizures as a teenager. It is rather frightening and horrible.


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09 Dec 2011, 9:10 pm

There was one in football on youtube, at first I found it bizarre until reading the comments that he was having a seizure, it was like he was possessed. It was awkward to watch to be honest.



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10 Dec 2011, 12:01 am

I have a seizure disorder, and I've never felt anything during a seizure, but afterwards can be bad with headache and (if it's a tonic-clonic, or "grand mal" seizure) bitten tongue and sore muscles. The good side is that people rarely die during seizures---they look very scary but most of the time they end on their own within a few minutes. Rescue breathing is not normally necessary, just turning the person on their side so that they don't aspirate vomit or secretions, and making sure they don't hurt themselves, is fine.

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10 Dec 2011, 9:39 pm

Meow101 wrote:
. . . just turning the person on their side so that they don't aspirate vomit or secretions, and making sure they don't hurt themselves, is fine. . .

This seems like the most important thing.

I can't do it tonight, but tomorrow I'm going to try and look up some authoritative sources on first aid. And I'd ask other people, yeah, if you have time, please jump in and see what you can find.



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11 Dec 2011, 7:53 pm

Harvard Medical School Family Health Guide, 1999, page 376.
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The source is from google books.

" . . . If several grand mal seizures occur in succession without the person waking up in between, get immediate medical help.
This is called status epilepticus and can be life-threatening. . . "

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"How to Help Someone
Who is Having a Seizure

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Move furniture and other objects out of the way so the person does not harm himself or herself.
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. . . Turn the person on his or her side, so that vomit will not collect in the windpipe and cause choking.
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. . . "


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CDC, Epilepsy, last updated Aug. 1, 2011.
http://www.cdc.gov/epilepsy/basics/first_aid.htm


"First Aid for Seizures
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•Ease the person to the floor and put something soft and flat, like a folded jacket, under his head.
•Remove eyeglasses and loosen ties or anything around the neck that may make breathing difficult.
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•Turn the person gently onto one side. This will help keep the airway clear.
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•Stay with the person until the seizure ends naturally and he is fully awake.
•Do not offer the person water or food until fully alert
•Be friendly and reassuring as consciousness returns.
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Here are a few things you can do to help someone who is having a seizure that appears as blank staring, loss of awareness, and/or involuntary blinking, chewing, or other facial movements.
•Stay calm and speak reassuringly.
•Guide him away from dangers.
•Block access to hazards, but don’t restrain the person.
•If he is agitated, stay a distance away, but close enough to protect him until full awareness has returned.

Consider a seizure an emergency and call 911 if any of the following occurs:
•The seizure lasts longer than five minutes without signs of slowing down or if a person has trouble breathing afterwards, appears to be in pain or recovery is unusual in some way.
•The person has another seizure soon after the first one.
•The person cannot be awakened after the seizure activity has stopped.
•The person became injured during the seizure.
•The person becomes aggressive.
•The seizure occurs in water.
•The person has a health condition like diabetes or heart disease or is pregnant."