That's it! I'm moving out, no more!!

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15 Jan 2012, 12:43 pm

After the recent falling out between my dad and little sister after the spanking incident, I just can't see any more hope for myself at home. I'm probably going to end up being saddled with babysitting responsibilities up the wazoo. I am also only 5 months from getting my bachelor's degree. So, I've decided to start looking for a job and move out immediately. I can't keep putting up with the unreasonable demands of family life anymore. These people are crushing me. I don't care if I lose internet service at night when I am away from school or if I have to work long hours. At least it would be for myself.

I need your support as I move through the difficulties of the next several months.



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15 Jan 2012, 1:06 pm

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After the recent falling out between my dad and little sister after the spanking incident, I just can't see any more hope for myself at home. I'm probably going to end up being saddled with babysitting responsibilities up the wazoo. I am also only 5 months from getting my bachelor's degree. So, I've decided to start looking for a job and move out immediately. I can't keep putting up with the unreasonable demands of family life anymore. These people are crushing me. I don't care if I lose internet service at night when I am away from school or if I have to work long hours. At least it would be for myself.

I need your support as I move through the difficulties of the next several months.


Angel, go for it. I've been on my own since I was sixteen, have a master's. It's a great feeling to be master of your own destiny.



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15 Jan 2012, 1:50 pm

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Angel, go for it. I've been on my own since I was sixteen, have a master's. It's a great feeling to be master of your own destiny.


+1

Best thing you can do for yourself as an adult regardless of your family frustrations.



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15 Jan 2012, 2:23 pm

Keep us posted! You are making a smart decision.


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15 Jan 2012, 10:18 pm

wish i was old enough to move out. go for it.



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16 Jan 2012, 3:46 am

That's probably the best thing you can do for yourself, given the situation at home. You're in the middle of studying for a bachelor's degree which in and of itself is stressful enough, without all the drama, fighting and babysitting duties being unloaded on you, besides. What is your sister so busy doing (other than working at a job) that she can't watch her own kid, and why do both of them (sister & father) assume that's your responsibility? Why can't / won't they put the kid in daycare or find another babysitter besides you?


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16 Jan 2012, 4:13 am

Moving out was the best thing I ever did. Good on you.


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16 Jan 2012, 10:43 am

As someone much older who was the designated "dump on" person in my family dynamic I would like to suggest that in addition to moving out that it might be beneficial to tell your family why (before or after moving), or try to tell them 'NO' to see how they would react. Also to get some therapy to help you with the issues of being the person others count on to pick up all slack.

I say these things in the kindest way possible and feel the need to say them because in my life, I just kept repeating the same pattern. I had family that dumped on me. I didn't get to join anything, have lessons in music, had to get a job in high school, very different from the way my older sister was treated. After high school, rather than planning my own future, I was sent to take care of my sister's kids for a year while she went through a divorce. After a year, her youngest was old enough to be in school all day, so she booted me out. When I tried to get into college and needed my dad's income information for financial aid, he refused, yelled cussed. I moved into an apartment with a friend, who less than two months into it, had a breakdown, and I was supposed to pay bills, show concern for her, she would tell me how to deal with her dad to try to get money out of him for her share of the rent etc etc. First husband, all promises, me working two jobs, him being an ass, I wasn't allowed to work anymore (pregnant, back in the day when places "suggested" pregnant women not work), so instead of him doing all he can, we lost the house he had lied to buy, I had to go on welfare to have my baby in a hospital, he kept getting jobs and quitting, bragged about spending all his pay on drugs that he planned to sell and make more money, but he ended up partying away. Divorce, no child support for many years. Second husband, at least he worked, but wanted to be treated like a king, not lift a finger, be "pampered" as he put it, and was abusive. Had friends, neighbors, co-workers all through my life, even another room mate, that I just naturally did things for, baby sat, cleaned their house when they were sick, have spent years of my life listening to others problems, the same people, including my own sister, who would be quite pissy and insulting if I was upset and needed to talk.

In my fifties now, in the past few years I have had jobs, neighbors, friends, where I was also the go to person. Moved to where I am a little over two years ago and I will be damned, it's like I have a sign on my forehead, that says "use me", a neighbor immediately started mooching, interested in what I own etc. Had to tell her after a short while "that's it, no more mooching my booze", but I still tried to remain on good terms, so she would come over or call when she needed help, but after making plans to go out new years, two years ago, then cancelling on me at last minute, I quit talking to her at all. (She still went out, I don't have a car, it was like she set me up saying we would leave at 8:00, then called at six, me not ready, saying she was ready to go and was going because she was hungry).

Sorry for the long post, was trying to make the point that there are the tender hearted types who have been socialized by family to do for others, who put out signals of some type, that the worst, most moochy, using types pick up on. The above is only a very small number of these types of experiences, heck, my own mother wanted me to sell me a car she had bought from me a year and a half earlier, she gave me $200, wanted me to pay her $1500 when I was desperate for a car. At one point as a young adult with a child, job, full time school I was paying my mother to babysit, she insisted I pay my younger brother (in high school at the time) too because he helped. The more I did and paid, the more she wanted then asked me to promise to live with her always and support her so she could kick out my dad. On and on, druggies, users, married men thinking I was an easy mark, even the last man I tried to have a relationship with expected ridiculous things, and he expected me to move in and help him pay off his enormous debt so his daughter could inherit more.


So, I live like a hermit now, don't know how people find me, try to think in a positive way, that I have a good heart, rather than I am a stupid sap. Anyway, the point, it is hard to break the patterns we were taught as we grow up. Work on this now, be aware that your tendency to help and be there for others, for whatever reason, can and will be exploited by people other than your family, and you might benefit from some counseling to learn to create boundaries early on in all relationships, personal and professional.
Just my thoughts.



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16 Jan 2012, 12:40 pm

backagain, I like your post really well.

Well, it's true. Since my dad has had 5 kids (all of them daughters except for me), I don't know, it just feels like his expectations for me are different than for his two younger daughters (who are adults but still live at home). My youngest sister, in particular, has strange ideas about gender and relationships. Possibly because she has had so many boyfriends who are, politely speaking, gangsta-looking scumbags and a bad relationship with my father, she thinks that men are not trustworthy, that my dad and I are screwing things up for her and my other sister.

Perhaps I can't really describe my relationship with my little sister in NT terms or in a really convincing way, she is lazy, irresponsible, unaccountable, and even if she is at home, she doesn't want to take full responsibility for her son. Since their fight on Sunday, she will not even let my dad anywhere near her son (although when I called him up yesterday to say I was going to spend an extra day at my friend's, he was feeding her kid). But yeah, my dad is and was the main caregiver for her child. She will sit in her room and play farm-ville games or whatever. Since she has been almost exclusively caring for her son (he was sick) the last couple of days, I have been worried (actually my anxiety is now worse than its ever been) she will bring him in in the middle of the night and wake me up (already happened once, but I declined).

Anyways, her attitude and hair-trigger temper have pushed me away from her. Oh wait, I was just thinking. I think another problem is that since my dad and mom have not been merciful to me


I guess my insecurity is that my dad has a very dependent relationship with me. He's 71 and a single father of three adult children and one grandchild. I know his phyisique is starting to deteriorate and his health could literally go bad at any time. I've spent the last 5 years in terror of him dying. He's shown some possibilities of a heart attack or stroke in the offing. Even a case of pneumonia or another sickness requiring hospitalization would probably bring the entire family to its knees. Which sort of shows how dependent everyone is on him. And since he's retired and on a fixed income now, his finances are growing worse and his savings are being depleted. Discounting the misery which my little sister inflicts on me, I feel more and more awkward and out of place living at home. I am coming to the point where I don't feel like I can expect any help or assistance from him with what I'm planning to do post-graduation.

Actually, I can't really expect help from anyone (and potentially family people will be needing my help). I guess your boundaries talk is really necessary. Since my mom divorced my dad, she's become destitute and is relying on SSI for a hip problem (and the are going to quit paying her within a year or so). She lives in a small apartment. My other sister is a college student with a part-time job as well. Most of my dad's family is estranged because of a feud. My aunt is a religious nut who broke off relations partly because my dad decided to forgive and open his heart up to his ex and also because she doesn't like that I am a liberal and not religious. All of my grandparents are dead, and I never really got to know any of them aside from my grandpa. I feel like I have a very limited window of time to move into prosperity and start living my dreams, or things might get very ugly for me (as if they aren't now). But then again, I have spent the last 5 years anguishing and so anxious that I really haven't done any volunteer work or got a job. My hobbies are limited to watching anime, reading science fiction and current events, and going to fan conventions. I would really like to learn how to draw and do artistic stuff, but my mind is so nervous.

He assumes that because I'm a guy, I think the same way as him and want the same things. He expects me to get into a heterosexual relationship and have kids "to carry on his family name."

So basically, I kinda feel like a bad guy for wanting to have more freedom and the family seems to expect me to "move mountains." I am almost too tired to do what I am doing right now, but I know it needs to be done. I need a future, and I need hope. And I treasure freedom and independence and individuality.

Maybe life won't reach that state for several years, or maybe I will be your age before I am happy, but I want to start doing things to enhance my interest in science fiction and start living/