It's hard not to be jealous of

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22 Feb 2012, 4:18 am

Other women who hit it big in life and their career simply because they're good looking and are in the right place.

It's like they won the "life lottery".

They're nothing until one day someone comes up to them and gives them an offer that makes them, and they don't even have to do ANYTHING to get that opportunity, where the rest of us have to work our arse off for even 1% of that glory.

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22 Feb 2012, 4:21 am

Same thing goes for men. You see the type out there that has everything fall on their laps and there not even something to blame like looks or whatnot. Its even more frustrating/confusing



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22 Feb 2012, 4:24 am

I'm not usually a jealous person.

But people who are born with a silver spoon, or get offered a silver spoon or silver spoon generating opportunity without hard work really flare up the green eyed monster in me.



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22 Feb 2012, 4:50 am

Like i said I know that feeling all too well. Its not something thats just based in stereotypical pretty girls either. Theres many out there that live like this, of all shapes and sizes and sexes.



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22 Feb 2012, 4:52 am

i don't know which is worse- to feel envious of other folks who have what you don't have, or to feel inferior and defective compared with these folks?



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22 Feb 2012, 5:02 am

auntblabby wrote:
i don't know which is worse- to feel envious of other folks who have what you don't have, or to feel inferior and defective compared with these folks?


I think it's both.



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22 Feb 2012, 8:37 am

I wouldn't be too envious of the sort of situation you describe: "easy come, easy go" - it's going to come crashing down eventually - there's no such thing as "charity" in that world, you have to earn everything one way or another.



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22 Feb 2012, 8:55 am

This happens a lot in the field I work in which is Interior Design. And what's worse is it colors how the world thinks about Interior Designers. I have known so many women and men in the industry who got where they are because of how they look physically, what they wear, and who they know. It has nothing to do with their skill as a designer, which is sometimes pretty minimal. What really makes me mad is people see and deal with these superficial bits of fluff and think that all interior design is looking pretty and picking out pillows and paint colors. Much of interior design is really quite technical. It's interior architecture. As a kitchen and bath designer, I have to be able to draft both manually and using several different kinds of sophisticated computer software, have knowledge of structural, electrical, plumbing, and HVAC systems, know NKBA standards, and have all kinds of other industry knowledge that these people don't possess. But because they're pretty, fashionable, and know how to socialize, they get great jobs while people look at me like I'm some kind of pretender. They get everything handed to them while I constantly have to prove myself, if I'm even given that chance. I'm not a jealous person, either, but these people make me envious and angry-and yes, a lot of it is because they make me feel defective and inferior, too.


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22 Feb 2012, 10:22 am

MXH wrote:
Same thing goes for men. You see the type out there that has everything fall on their laps and there not even something to blame like looks or whatnot. Its even more frustrating/confusing


It depends on what you live for, money isn't indicative of character since it can inherited or stolen, simply because someone is given an opportunity or has a silver spoon in their mouth doesn't mean they are better than anyone else. Not every successful person simply gets success handed to them overnight by some magic potion, most people have to face rejection to an extent before they get a break.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... bbean.html

Look at this article, Johnny depp even says they called him box office poison for 20 years before appearing in Pirates of the Caribbean, he even states he had to build a career on 20 years of failures and Disney wanted to fire him. If people like him have to work hard for 20 years for success, he even states he had to build a career on 20 years of failures and now he's the biggest paid actor in the world, I think it shows a conviction.



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22 Feb 2012, 10:23 am

Even Vin Diesel in this video says he started acting at 7 years old but didn't get his first paycheck from acting until he was 35 and had many years of unemployment, so you're definitely not alone, plenty of successful people in Hollywood have to go through rejection.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJjEzhF0F3k[/youtube]



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22 Feb 2012, 10:35 am

Wolfheart wrote:
MXH wrote:
Same thing goes for men. You see the type out there that has everything fall on their laps and there not even something to blame like looks or whatnot. Its even more frustrating/confusing


It depends on what you live for, money isn't indicative of character since it can inherited or stolen, simply because someone is given an opportunity or has a silver spoon in their mouth doesn't mean they are better than anyone else. Not every successful person simply gets success handed to them overnight by some magic potion, most people have to face rejection to an extent before they get a break.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... bbean.html

Look at this article, Johnny depp even says they called him box office poison for 20 years before appearing in Pirates of the Caribbean, he even states he had to build a career on 20 years of failures and Disney wanted to fire him. If people like him have to work hard for 20 years for success, he even states he had to build a career on 20 years of failures and now he's the biggest paid actor in the world, I think it shows a conviction.


Im not talking about celebrities. you're trying to argue a point i never made. All Im saying is theres plenty of people out there that have things theyve not done much to recieve when plenty others struggle daily and cant get them. It can be money, looks, popularity, carreer, etc.



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22 Feb 2012, 11:00 am

luck is random, and it has no intelligence in choosing it's target.

something that springs to mind is an episode of a game show called "hot seat" which is a spin off of "who wants to be a millionaire".

when someone gets an answer wrong, they are shown the door, and the prize money is reduced accordingly. it starts at $1,000,000 and the first wrong answer reduces it to $250,000, and the second wrong answer reduces it to $100,000 and then $50,000, and then $20,000 and then $10,000, and that is as low as it goes.


anyway, last year, there was a woman who was ravaged by cancer, and she had worked very hard all her life as a clerk for the railways, and she was renting a unit, and because of her cancer, she was unable to work anymore and running out of money.

she was the first person on, and the host asked her what she would do with 1 million dollars, and she said that it would allow her to buy a small house, and put the rest in the bank so she could live on the interest, and that when she died, she could leave her house and bank balance to her 2 children. (it is interesting that no matter how old the children are (in her case they were in their 40's), that they are always called children by their parents).

anyway, she was very knowledgeable, and she answered every question correctly, and on the last question she was shivering with expectation and happiness because she could see that she may win 1 million dollars, but she got the answer wrong and she was shown the door.

the next person to take the seat was a young man who lived in a house in an affluent suburb (potts point), and in the introductory blurb, he described himself as a man of leisure, and his main pastime was surfing. he said he did not have to work and that he enjoyed his freedom to do whatever he liked.

he was about 22 years old, and he was very good looking and he had a designer stubble and gelled hair that was combed upward (as they do), and he was smug and i did not like him. in my opinion he seemed like a snob. even the host did not like him because the host said something like "i'm not even going to ask you what you would do with $250,000 because it would be a drop in the bucket for you", to which he replied that it would be a handy bonus.
he got the question correct (it was an easy question), but he got it correct because he guessed it. he had no idea, and he said "when in doubt always go for the third option" and he chose "C" which was correct.

when the host asked him how he would use the money, he said "i'm going to go to vegas (los vegas) and check out the scene and maybe blow some of it it in the casinos there with a bunch of mates. then i'm gonna have a caribbean holiday to check out the scene there too".

he was a disgusting character in my mind, because the woman that did all the groundwork for him was shafted, and he slid in and took the spoils of her effort. the money would have softened the end of her hard life, but it was only confetti for the rich kid who was obviously living in the abundance of his families wealth.

and the young man seemed to give no thought to the poor woman who went home empty handed.

life is often not fair at all.



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22 Feb 2012, 12:36 pm

I think a lot of people get jealous of those kinds of people. I know a 19-year-old girl who isn't rich or anything but is very lucky. She doesn't work, lives at home, had all her driving lessons paid for her, has got a nice car brought for her, has all her ensurance paid for her, has lots of friends, has lots of boys after her, gets nice clothes got for her, goes out a lot.....

And there's me, I have to work to get all of those things, even to get friends. Not that I expect others to do everything for me.


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22 Feb 2012, 12:59 pm

Interestingly enough I am not really jealous of that, since what comes to mind is horrid singers like Britney Spears(I know no one cares about that anymore.).......I mean sure she gets all kinds of money and crap I could never even hope to have but imagine the stress of trying to keep up appearances, having to do what some producer jerk tells you to and sacrifice your individuality to be what someone else wants you to be.

But then I never have been given any offers like that...


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22 Feb 2012, 1:13 pm

I'm not jealous of singers. I can't even cope with having pressure from the jobcentre, so God knows why I would want to cope with having all the pressure what famous singers have!
Most singers turn to drugs anyway. I won't mention any names because I'm always wrong on this sort of thing because people take facts about celebrities very precisely, but I have known a few famous singers that have died through doing too much drugs.


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22 Feb 2012, 1:22 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Other women who hit it big in life and their career simply because they're good looking and are in the right place.

It's like they won the "life lottery".

They're nothing until one day someone comes up to them and gives them an offer that makes them, and they don't even have to do ANYTHING to get that opportunity, where the rest of us have to work our arse off for even 1% of that glory.

:cry:


Growing up, I went to a private school, on a need/merit based scholarship. I understand EXACTLY what you are talking about. Being surrounded by others who's parents have plenty of money, who wore all the latest brands when I was stuck with whatever I could get at the second hand store, Who got to go on fantastical trips every break from school, and then were encouraged to brag about it when they got back, who when they forget their lunch or homework, the housekeeper brings it to them, obverse to if I forgot my lunch, I had to do without since my mom couldn't take time off from work to bring it to me.

They were forgiven horrible crimes against me because their parents donated money to the school. I was a drain on the school so it was subtly encouraged to act anti-socially towards me (and others like me) in order to get us to leave of our own choice.

All of that was a quirk of fate. I learned from a very, very young age that despite what the Declaration of Independence says, All men are not created equal. f**k their Pursuit of happiness. I want a concrete guarantee that either I get to be happy too, or everyone has to be as miserable as I am.