Killer for hire, how dare he!?!?!

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21 Oct 2006, 5:40 pm

I wasnt sure where to post this. I am quite frustreted with an old school friend right now.
my boyfriend who I love very much and he loves me very much just joined the army he has been gone to basic training for three weeks now. this old school friend had the nerve to say to me in an e-mail,
"...and are you all right with john becoming a killer for hire not that i have any thing agents ower armed fores but there leader is a one short fall from monkey on the evolutionary scale"

I think he just likes to upset me.



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21 Oct 2006, 6:01 pm

Yeah, that is pretty insensitive. Criticize the leaders, not the troops who suffer because of their stupid mistakes.


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21 Oct 2006, 6:15 pm

What's the problem? He's getting paid to blow up stuff and kill people. He signed an agreement saying he'll kill and blow up whatever he's told to. What does it matter who is in charge? He's still a mercenary.



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21 Oct 2006, 7:07 pm

Some people who were former soldiers told me that the purpose of an army is not to kill people, but to stop people being killed... couldn't quite grasp their logic... in order to defend their home, they would shoot at people and blow stuff up... sure, they might be defending some people, but they're still killing other people. Or maybe it was meant to be some variant on the MAD thing for nukes... have such a badass army that no-one will dare attack you, sort of thing...


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21 Oct 2006, 7:39 pm

cman_yall wrote:
Some people who were former soldiers told me that the purpose of an army is not to kill people, but to stop people being killed... couldn't quite grasp their logic... i


Because there isn't any - it's just rationalization. "Defense" becomes an excuse to kill anyone and do anything.



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21 Oct 2006, 7:43 pm

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other jerk die for his." - General George Patton


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21 Oct 2006, 7:54 pm

yeah i guess somthing like that.


the object of war chould not be to make the girl friends of soldires feel like crap.



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21 Oct 2006, 8:07 pm

I don't like much of what the US government is doing, but the US is still pretty much a free country. So are a lot of other countries. Most free countries have militaries. That's the reason they're free countries.

If somebody wants to abolish all armies, that would be great, but I don't think they should start by abolishing armies in the free countries.


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21 Oct 2006, 8:11 pm

CanyonWind wrote:
Most free countries have militaries.

So do must unfree countries. The only countries without militaries that I can think of are Costa Rica and...um...


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21 Oct 2006, 8:14 pm

Exactly. That's the reason free countries need them.


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21 Oct 2006, 8:15 pm

Here's the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... med_forces

And militaries are what make most unfree countries unfree.


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21 Oct 2006, 8:28 pm

Absolutely true. How do you suggest we start to make things different?


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21 Oct 2006, 8:34 pm

Well, you could start by tracking down those gorillas.


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21 Oct 2006, 9:41 pm

I'm offended by the term "killer for hire". The correct term is
Lifespan adjustment technician . Its all part of evolution. Though
95% plus of the time it is smarter not to fight a war. It just does not
make economoic since. Though the case can be made that military
science drives alot of technology thats still no reason to use it in a
war.



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21 Oct 2006, 9:49 pm

If you think wars have done something for technological advancement, you ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait until I start the Sino-Franco-Anglo-Russo-Mexican-Indian-Iraq-Australian-Italian-Zimbabwean-Argentinian-Sri Lankan-Tuvalu-Kentuckian-Berlin-57th Street-Werbert War


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21 Oct 2006, 11:54 pm

Most free countries have militaries, but only the US uses it on a regular basis to invade unfree countries and go nowhere with them. It doesn't exactly have the best record, in recent years. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq anyone?

Having a military for defence is different to having one for ideology enforcement. I for one would refuse to fight in the US Army, especially with the current lean towards police state.

Having said that, it's still not the soldiers' fault their creed differs greatly from reality.