Music Obsession Too Much

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27 Aug 2012, 4:44 pm

I have noticed that unless others point out flaws within something I cannot seem to notice them until they're pointed out. I also seem to get bored with many bands because I look into them for one element...and as an aspergian I hear every pattern so often there is a part of it I will find interesting. How does one conquer this?

I have a very open mind with music but have standards, but I just want to be able to notice the faults along with the interesting elements so that i can just compile a music collection of perfect or near perfect bands.

Unlike most things I do not know the source of this. Maybe I just really like getting lost within different ambiences and atmospheres for my moods.

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27 Aug 2012, 4:50 pm

As people grow, they do lose a little interest in what they once held dearly. I used to be the biggest KISS nut around. And Iron Maiden, for that matter. But I started drifting towards other music to please me. I now listen to classical almost exclusively, but I still have a good collection of jazz, blues, movie & video game scores, and foreign music like Natacha Atlas.



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27 Aug 2012, 9:11 pm

redrobin62, my dad considers me closed minded but he will listen to anything and everything...when I went to a show for Killswitch Engage and Dark Tranquillity he liked Devil Wears Prada most because of the stage show and makes all kinds of BS excuses for why he likes said bands. You missed my point entirely; I don't want to like things just for one aspect, I want to like the whole of it. It is how I usually conduct myself as a natural idealist and this one aspect that goes against that nature is frustrating to deal with.

And my interests have actually been widening up a bit, if anything I am too allowing in art, particularly music. Trying to set up standards of quality for bands to test has helped but it seems I just want more but fear it would end up with me settling on other crpa not as good since I look for overall sounds and atmospheres.

Or am I just being too hard on myself over something trivial?


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27 Aug 2012, 10:27 pm

Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would you want to listen to music to find fault in it? Unless you're a music critic, and who cares what they think? If you like a band or a style of music I wouldn't think there'd be any benefit in actively searching for something wrong with it. My tastes in music are pretty wide, and I feel kind of like Redrobin62 in that my tastes expand as I go, but I don't stop listening to older stuff that I used to love. I just kind of add it to my collection.



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28 Aug 2012, 5:54 am

haha yeah i'm the same way really, once I find a fault or if some ***hole points it out, it sticks out like sore thumb and completely ruins my immersion
what bands are you referring to anyway?



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28 Aug 2012, 2:35 pm

It has been pointed out to me I may have worded this in a way that is confusing to people. I listen to grunge, industrial rock/metal, progrssive rock/metal, hard rock, heavy metal, alternative rock/metal, and polka. I don't see any need for anything more than that. My dad thinks I am closed minded though because I want to like everything in a band before I look into it otherwiswe I would end up with hundreds of bands.

I listen to bands for months and don't notice the flaws in the bands. Then when they are pointed out I have serious doubts about listening to them.

Hedphonez, I am referring to Deftones (the vocals/lyrics being annoying/stupid I later found out), Rammstein (monone vocals and overall talentlessness), Dir en grey (super cliche with crappy vocals), Marilyn Manson (shock rock theme and Manson's narcissism holding the music back), and a few others.

DiscardedWhisperer, I don't listen to music just to find faults in it. I do it hoping to find that I like the overall style, but I find without rigid standards I get a lot of bands I later regret buying because they aren't as good as the bands with the high standards. However, it has led me to be called elitist despite the wide range in my library despite this.


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28 Aug 2012, 6:11 pm

I love the jump from the edgier forms of rock to polka, that's pretty cool. I'm all over the place when it comes to music so, I get that.

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DiscardedWhisperer, I don't listen to music just to find faults in it. I do it hoping to find that I like the overall style, but I find without rigid standards I get a lot of bands I later regret buying because they aren't as good as the bands with the high standards. However, it has led me to be called elitist despite the wide range in my library despite this.


I dunno about all that, to me the only standard is "does it hit my eardrums right". Which is difficult to set into any kind of orderly format. There are songs I listen to even if I don't like the band, and there songs where I love the band/artist but hate the song and won't listen to it. (John Lennon's Imagine would be a notable example.)

I haven't been called elitist, but I have been called a "Classic Rock Snob" because I don't care to go sifting about in the indie music scene looking for good music when I've got plenty of it in my library already. I often get bent out of shape by people ripping on me, but this subject just doesn't bother me that much. A lot of the art house BS that comes out of the indie scene just doesn't interest me. And music that's truly good, usually finds a foothold somewhere amongst the bubble gum pop trash that's been all over the radio lately.

Also could not agree with you more on Marilyn Manson, what a narcissistic prick.



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28 Aug 2012, 9:47 pm

Another goofy thing I like is Interlude by Tool. You go from intense progressive rock to elevator music, it's hilarious!

I like listening to some bands for just ideas and have some bands I like one song by as well, such as Trapt's Stay Alive and Silversun Pickups's Panic Switch. And I am the same way in the opposite (Limp Bizkit's Rollin' or Nonpoint's Tribute for instance.)

As far as "hitting the eardrum right", I usually use whims like that to influence my playing rather than add to my music collection. I have over 170 bands in it and over 3,000 songs, even though I have no albums from 40 or so form the band list.

Indie and bubble gum pop are crap just like rap and country. The best music tends to be at least semi-underground these days since record companies love pandering to the lowest common denominator. That being said I still listen to some bands like Rush, Disturbed, and Slipknot. All comes down to overall substance, and I will not accept subpar quality form a band I will be investing in. Do you ever make exceptions for a particular sound? I have been guilty of doing it in the past.


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28 Aug 2012, 11:13 pm

It's hard for me to define what the sounds are that I like, so it's even harder to define what would be an exception. I'm all over the place with my music and I do like some rap and country. But the rap has to have some musical quality to it, like Run DMC, Snoop's older stuff, late 80s guys like Biz Markie, Tone Loc or Young MC. Afroman is pretty good and pretty funny too. If I listen to country, it would usually be older country like Marty Robbins, Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Pure Prairie League. Especially Bakersfield guys like Merle Haggard and Buck Owens. They're sound influenced a lot of country and rock and roll bands.

Sorry, rambling.



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30 Aug 2012, 9:13 pm

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I don't know what to say but will throw you some music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kotK9FNEYU


Coltrane was god, the way that solo pumps out makes you think he has the lungs of a whale.

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I tried to listen to this, but I really cannot stand death metal. It violates my ear canals in ways normally only found in Japanese hentai.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsAhHzkcO4I


This is so crying out for a shot of the General Lee doing one of those trademark jumps, accompanied by it's signature Dixie horn.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duuRAomjxNI


Feels like it fell out of a 50s Disney Wildlife Movie. Which is not a bad thing by any means.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyV0uf_uJxg


Bach just doesn't work on a tap guitar. Though it's a worthy effort by the musician.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc


Sorry, I don't like this either. Black Metal and Death Metal are practically the same. It's just the pitch of the frontman's gobbledegook that defines the two. With Black being coarse screaming and Death being guttural bellows.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brbOIKAIGZA


I could not say an unkind word about Prokofiev since the man's "Peter and the Wolf" music is iconic and timeless. But that piece, while musically brilliant, is not aesthetically pleasing to me.



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31 Aug 2012, 7:16 pm

SanityTheorist wrote:

Or am I just being too hard on myself over something trivial?


Yes.

No music or art is perfect. That is what makes it interesting.


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