Was I always this lonely?

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16 Sep 2012, 1:13 am

So last Friday, my parents left for Hawaii on vacation. My grandmother came over to watch over my brother and I. I have to admit, it's nice having her over instead of my parents. She doesn't tell us to make up our beds or petty things like that. Hell, she even let me cut a part of my hair. Today, I think, my parents are coming back. My grandmother and I started laughing about my mother and about me cutting bangs into my hair.

Today, earlier, at a picnic at our school, I participated in face-painting. There was a water-slide (I didn't have a bathing suit, just regular clothes) and this Brazilian girl (foreign exchange student) and I went on it. When we were waiting in this pool-like thing, we were splashing each other and I was holding on to her and trying to make her fall and she didn't really give a s**t even though we didn't know each other that well. She likes to give high fives to everyone and still liked me even when I committed a social flop yesterday. I spent my whole time thinking I want a friend like her and for some reason, she's one of the few friends I would want to hug or something.

When I think of my parents coming back, I feel weird. I don't want them to come back. I want to live with my grandmother instead and become good friends with this Brazilian chick (she's only staying this year and returning to Brazil after this). Why do I feel so goddamn lonely?


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16 Sep 2012, 3:43 am

Most foreigners I've met are nicer and more forgiving of social oddities. I don't think it's even us much of the time, it is legitimately the others around us that are screwed up. I was reading "Happier Abroad" and one girl from Russia described her entire time in USA as miserable, but oddly enough, she said "There's some guys in USA, that seem... more Russian, and those were the only guys I could get along with" and I really felt like she was speaking about some guys with Aspergers.

As far as being lonely, I can kinda relate. A little. When you get a taste of like...not loneliness, you then learn how to differentiate. I got my taste at my old church, but I no longer go for a variety of reasons, some theological, some social, and I went from having a huge social group and a lot of friends to like...none. Almost overnight. I guess this sorta stuff happens in life, you get moments of greatness, of then long periods of sheer crappiness, and you have to just look at it day by day, whilst trying to steadily improve your situation to make the overall situation more close to your moments you felt good.



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16 Sep 2012, 9:12 am

1000Knives wrote:
Most foreigners I've met are nicer and more forgiving of social oddities. I don't think it's even us much of the time, it is legitimately the others around us that are screwed up. I was reading "Happier Abroad" and one girl from Russia described her entire time in USA as miserable, but oddly enough, she said "There's some guys in USA, that seem... more Russian, and those were the only guys I could get along with" and I really felt like she was speaking about some guys with Aspergers.


I wonder why her time in the U.S. was miserable. How would they seem more "Russian"?


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16 Sep 2012, 3:24 pm

http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page32.htm

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Another Russian immigrant observed the effect that our consumerist culture has on people:



“One thing I notice is that Americans, in general, are very narrow-minded people, who are absolutely not interested or curious about anything more mind stimulating than stupid soap operas and some dumb idol/reality shows... that is why very often they come off as being too anti-social. It's not that they are stuck up or conceited, its just very hard to engage anyone in anything interesting. And most of them, i find, are the ones who actually have a low self esteem, so as a cover up, they may come off as arrogant and anti-social....

I thought, the Soviet people were brainwashed. Now I am convinced that every big empire brainwashes its people. There is no other way around.”


From a Russian male living here:
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“Also, another question -- why are so many Americans scared of each other? I live here in the Midwest, and the fear is just so palpable, even from a distance. Their favorite expression when they see anything happening is, "May I help you?" For example, I was parking my car in a rather urban part of the city, and some lady pulls down her car window and asks in a very alert voice, "May I help you?" Or, they like to ask, "Are you okay?" -- because they become paranoid of something that looks unusual or simply unconventional. The suburbs are the worst, where paranoia is almost a standard.



Or maybe I'm just intimidating, for some reason?


And for the Russian girl comment I was talking about...
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At first, the only people nice to me were black girls. And in Indiana there weren't a lot of them. And also some overweight white girls. Basically, few people overlooked my accent and tried to help me and befriend me. Then there were of course the guys hitting on me in high school, but i knew all they wanted it sex so i didn't really pay attention to them. ( i wanted either a real relationship or nothing at all - i was brought up that way).
Anyway, i don't wanna get into the details too much, I'm not sure if you will get this email.
My point i that i felt that most people here were "under a fog" with a few heads sticking out. Those that stuck out were really different, more intelligent, open minded... it's hard to describe, but they seemed more "russian" or whatever. More present.


I've become convinced most of my Aspergers problems come from America, and in particular, my state, pretty much the snobbiest richest state in the Union.



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16 Sep 2012, 3:50 pm

1000Knives wrote:
http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page32.htm

Quote:

Another Russian immigrant observed the effect that our consumerist culture has on people:



“One thing I notice is that Americans, in general, are very narrow-minded people, who are absolutely not interested or curious about anything more mind stimulating than stupid soap operas and some dumb idol/reality shows... that is why very often they come off as being too anti-social. It's not that they are stuck up or conceited, its just very hard to engage anyone in anything interesting. And most of them, i find, are the ones who actually have a low self esteem, so as a cover up, they may come off as arrogant and anti-social....

I thought, the Soviet people were brainwashed. Now I am convinced that every big empire brainwashes its people. There is no other way around.”


From a Russian male living here:
Quote:

“Also, another question -- why are so many Americans scared of each other? I live here in the Midwest, and the fear is just so palpable, even from a distance. Their favorite expression when they see anything happening is, "May I help you?" For example, I was parking my car in a rather urban part of the city, and some lady pulls down her car window and asks in a very alert voice, "May I help you?" Or, they like to ask, "Are you okay?" -- because they become paranoid of something that looks unusual or simply unconventional. The suburbs are the worst, where paranoia is almost a standard.



Or maybe I'm just intimidating, for some reason?


And for the Russian girl comment I was talking about...
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At first, the only people nice to me were black girls. And in Indiana there weren't a lot of them. And also some overweight white girls. Basically, few people overlooked my accent and tried to help me and befriend me. Then there were of course the guys hitting on me in high school, but i knew all they wanted it sex so i didn't really pay attention to them. ( i wanted either a real relationship or nothing at all - i was brought up that way).
Anyway, i don't wanna get into the details too much, I'm not sure if you will get this email.
My point i that i felt that most people here were "under a fog" with a few heads sticking out. Those that stuck out were really different, more intelligent, open minded... it's hard to describe, but they seemed more "russian" or whatever. More present.


I've become convinced most of my Aspergers problems come from America, and in particular, my state, pretty much the snobbiest richest state in the Union.

What state are you from?


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16 Sep 2012, 3:52 pm

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16 Sep 2012, 4:19 pm

@1000Knives: It's not really fair to paint people with a broad brush. What you and your Russians friends perceive as paranoia is really just being cautious. There's always going to be a criminal element out there and it's well known that parking structures are a favorite place for them to operate.

@gailryder17: I would think that this girl is just more open than most people. It would seem to me that the problem you have is that your parents are rather tyrannical and you're taking the brunt of it. Most likely you're feeling lonely because your parents are getting in the way of your life.

I guessing that's the thing, I'm no shrink. But I know that parents can be an insurmountable obstacle to anything when they choose to be.



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16 Sep 2012, 6:53 pm

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@gailryder17: I would think that this girl is just more open than most people. It would seem to me that the problem you have is that your parents are rather tyrannical and you're taking the brunt of it. Most likely you're feeling lonely because your parents are getting in the way of your life.


I don't think they are tyrannical per se. My dad doesn't say much (to me at least) about that kind of thing. My mom, however, is a completely different story. They actually do want me to be social, so I can't attribute my loneliness to that.


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16 Sep 2012, 7:02 pm

In other countries, especially latin and far eastern countries, people don't care about communication skills as much.