Does this get any easier?

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TornadoEvil
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28 Jan 2013, 2:32 pm

I would call myself very immature. Naive, amiable, and self-deceptive. I don't so much lie as change my version of events to make things easier on myself. Valuing what I want to perceive over what others see in me. Even when people talk to me, I will agree with them, but I can still hold to what I think. And sometimes what I think and what is actually happens is at such a discontinuity that I melt down. Those meltdowns can get pretty intense. Mostly dealing with expectations and memories of the past not aligning with what actually happens. Not understanding what people expect of me, and grossly misunderstanding social constructs.

I have gotten better at coping, and countering this. I am just ending up in more and more difficult situations however. I am pushing myself with what I want to be, and I am not sure I can keep up. I have to step back and think about what I am actually capable of. Especially when dealing with other people. I am making mistakes that I will have to live with. Make and loose friends.

I have known that my obsessions are wrong for six years. All that I did from that was turn it into a bigger obsession and become anxious and depressed. I have to make it stop no matter what, without hurting myself or others. Not blaming others, not having crazy delusions of what is happening. No matter what happens, or how hard it is for me to deal with.

That is what I have to think when I play to relax and be at peace with myself.

I am only in my early twenties, still plenty of time and opportunities. I have managed to not completely screw everything up to this point. Sheer dumb luck. And I can BS my way through advanced math based engineering courses only half-learning everything because my analytic and test taking skills are just that good. Means I have to work extra hard right now.



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28 Jan 2013, 4:37 pm

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I am only in my early twenties, still plenty of time and opportunities. I have managed to not completely screw everything up to this point. Sheer dumb luck. And I can BS my way through advanced math based engineering courses only half-learning everything because my analytic and test taking skills are just that good. Means I have to work extra hard right now.


This. You just need to work as hard as it takes to achieve your goals though.

I think everyone has those.. "immature years" in their teens/early adult hood. Luck or not, if you acknowledge yourself in a good position to move things along, you still have a chance to change things for the better.



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02 Feb 2013, 1:50 am

Anxiety and depression can really warp your perception, believe me I learned this one a long time ago. Add confusion to it due to a lack of intuitive social knowledge, and it can be very easy to get overwhelmed. These are just things I remind myself.

I am not always right, in fact I can be spectacularly wrong
Try to pause and think. My first reaction is just that--reactive
Change takes time.Growth takes time. It's not a race.
It's okay not to do it perfectly.Muddling through is acceptable.

Ugh, that reads like those cheesy postcard books. Honest sentiment, though. I've seen your posts before, and there always seems to be such an underlying anger and drivenness to them. My best advice I guess would be try to pause more. Stay in the moment as much as you can. Ask and listen openly to what people are saying. They might not be correct, but communication involves sharing both sides. It's okay to speak up if you don't agree. If you're so focused on being "amiable", then one side of the current is shut down. It's okay to be direct.
As for obsessions, I see the desire to VANQUISH AT ALL COSTS!! ! Understandable, but approaching it in that manner creates such a WINNER/LOSER scenario that is so much stress to be under. Instead of a battering ram, maybe some slight of hand would serve you better.Something less fraught with tension, but can still divert you from wearing in the grooves in the road that much further.
Hang in there...



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02 Feb 2013, 1:11 pm

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Anxiety and depression can really warp your perception, believe me I learned this one a long time ago. Add confusion to it due to a lack of intuitive social knowledge, and it can be very easy to get overwhelmed. These are just things I remind myself.

I am not always right, in fact I can be spectacularly wrong
Try to pause and think. My first reaction is just that--reactive
Change takes time.Growth takes time. It's not a race.
It's okay not to do it perfectly.Muddling through is acceptable.

Ugh, that reads like those cheesy postcard books. Honest sentiment, though. I've seen your posts before, and there always seems to be such an underlying anger and drivenness to them. My best advice I guess would be try to pause more. Stay in the moment as much as you can. Ask and listen openly to what people are saying. They might not be correct, but communication involves sharing both sides. It's okay to speak up if you don't agree. If you're so focused on being "amiable", then one side of the current is shut down. It's okay to be direct.
As for obsessions, I see the desire to VANQUISH AT ALL COSTS!! ! Understandable, but approaching it in that manner creates such a WINNER/LOSER scenario that is so much stress to be under. Instead of a battering ram, maybe some slight of hand would serve you better.Something less fraught with tension, but can still divert you from wearing in the grooves in the road that much further.
Hang in there...


I'm hanging in there. I need to watch my anger, I can internalize it pretty well though some of it does slip through. My older brother has anger issues, and he has a nice circle of friends and a really good job working for a power company. Had one girlfriend who is kind of a train wreck, they stuck together a while though.

Got a fortune cookie: "Seek out the significance of you problem at this time. Try to understand." Sometimes those seem to fit well for me, even if they are broadly stated. I will work on my calm and assertiveness, you give really good advice MjrMajorMajor.

Its not all bad. I got a room change to cluster with people I should get along with better (at school). And I expect much better in terms of extra guests. Especially long term ones. And noise and late night parties should be fewer. Complained to my floor RA last semester, but he has "Resigned to focus on his studies." Should of gone a higher in the chain of command.



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02 Feb 2013, 1:33 pm

Good for you, and thanks for the compliment :oops: . It's always nice to be able to help, especially when I'm feeling like I'm set to a different wavelength from so many people. One more thing. I don't believe in internalizing anger. Anger is a sign that a boundary is being overstepped, or some need isn't being met properly. Addressing the underlying issues there, whether it's just a raging perfectionism or a need to be taken into account more seriously, is going to lead you to that calmness IMHO. It's about anger management, being angry by itself isn't a bad thing but poor expression of it is.
Glad to here there are some good things going for you, too. :)



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04 Feb 2013, 9:52 pm

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Good for you, and thanks for the compliment :oops: . It's always nice to be able to help, especially when I'm feeling like I'm set to a different wavelength from so many people. One more thing. I don't believe in internalizing anger. Anger is a sign that a boundary is being overstepped, or some need isn't being met properly. Addressing the underlying issues there, whether it's just a raging perfectionism or a need to be taken into account more seriously, is going to lead you to that calmness IMHO. It's about anger management, being angry by itself isn't a bad thing but poor expression of it is.
Glad to here there are some good things going for you, too. :)


I think I am too prone to calming myself down when I get angry and then failing to address the problem properly. I do not like getting in conflicts with other people, and I can be very forgiving. I am going to stand up for myself a little better from now on.

I could work on planning ahead with social situations. Kinda like when I'm driving I think about what is going to happen ahead of time and have a plan for what ever course of events occurs. Half of which is anticipating what other people are going to do. My goal in driving is getting from point-A to point-B. Unfortunately, my goals and emotions in dealing with people can get more complicated, especially emotionally. I have become relaxed and natural with driving as I have gotten more experienced, but I do like to be the one driving a car most of the time. I can't shut off my driving reactions and instincts that well. I like driving my way.

I am currently working on not letting myself become too worried or hyper-anxious. Not even thinking about my obsessions or giving them the time of day. I need to give them some thought, but I also need to be able to quickly move onto something else.



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05 Feb 2013, 1:22 am

Not having much luck posting tonight. :? Just remember that traffic follows a much more concrete path than people. Social interactions feel more like bumper cars to me. Maybe it makes more sense to you.



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05 Feb 2013, 12:29 pm

You're not from Naperville then.

Right now I need to just keep working at things. No pain, no gain. I have always been somewhat terrible at working on things I don't enjoy. I must be a static magnetic field.



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02 Mar 2013, 4:30 pm

To answer my own question: Yes

Just learning to live in the moment and not let my thoughts and anxieties control me. I will make mistakes, but I will learn from them. Making some new friends has helped tremendously. I can focus on how other people see me, and use that to guide my actions.

Still having trouble getting out of bed in the morning, worries keeping me down. And I could be doing better at my schoolwork. Still fiddling with how I find meaning in my existence.



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02 Mar 2013, 5:07 pm

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I can focus on how other people see me, and use that to guide my actions..


Within reason I hope. :wink: Glad to hear that you're feeling better, and take your time with the heavy questions.



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02 Mar 2013, 10:16 pm

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
TornadoEvil wrote:
I can focus on how other people see me, and use that to guide my actions..


Within reason I hope. :wink: Glad to hear that you're feeling better, and take your time with the heavy questions.


I can always do better at understanding other people and not over thinking things. For things that are heavy, I probably should just take my time and see how things go. I should prioritize my own self-improvement.



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03 Mar 2013, 9:13 pm

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