What good are we as men?

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Im not too sure where to put this but i suppose here might suffice, After many demonstrations on feminism and showing that women dont need men and that we are worthless and thought of nothing else but sex craved chauvanistic pigs and knowing that they can concieve without us via sperm banks let alone cloning what is the point in existing as a male? I always thought women need us for comfort and protection but apparently were not needed for that either we have instinctual tendacies of wanting to ensure a womans safety and protection but since we arent needed anymore whats the point of it all? Apparently were obsolete to women to be hated and tossed aside like trash. We will always be considered the oppressors and incompetant swine and thought of as savage raping animals.

As a woman, I don't need men, but I do like them.
My brand of feminism says that people shouldn't be put into boxes according to their genitals. I am certain that most men are far from being savage raping swine.

The biggest problem in this world is stereotyping, Many have a tendency to "trademark" certain type of people with a specific type of branding, this based and decided on behalf of their experiences with similar people. It's such a shame i think, just because a few people are "bad seeds" and not so very nice people, doesn't mean that everyone else with the same interests, religions etc,are like that as well.
The same goes for guys, yes some men are total A-hole's, but that doesn't mean all men are. People should learn that stereotyping is as flawless as flawless can get by now. We all might have some things in common, but when all comes to all each and everyone are seperate individuals, with unique fingerprints and a mind of their own, making it impossible for everyone to turn out the same way.

Don't take it to much to heart, those who have such thoughts about men, has made an assumption probably based on their own bad experiences, and have likely because of these past happenings grown bitter and mad at everyone who remotely reminds them of those who once hurt them.

I have never understood this type of reasoning.

If one person considers another unnecessary, why is that important?

If the second person also considers the first unnecessary, does that not create an equal situation? Why is it more important that the first considers the first unnecessary?

Scientists have stimulated cells from male mice to become egg cells, and then have fertilized those cells using sperm from another male, creating mouse fetuses with two fathers and no genetic mothers. 27 such mice have been born.

A few weeks ago it was also announced that a technology has been developed called "extrauterine fetal incubation", which is basically an artificial womb that won't require any human whatsoever. With this particular technology, even single men may be able to acquire donated eggs and have their own children.

Combining these two technologies will mean that women are needed only equally as much as men. If men are obsolete, women are also.

As for the question of whether others' lives depend on mine, I really don't care. I don't need to feel needed. If no one's life depends on mine that does not mean that I am less deserving of life than they are.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr9GgHthGAk[/youtube] Apparently i am not necessary!

You know, from what I have seen and from everything I have witnessed, everyone seems to be looking for perfection. I guess if they are looking for perfection, then they need to find God, because they won't ever find perfecction in another human being.

I hate being hated for existing let alone the gender I am born with, I feel compelled to be there for others but since I am not needed for that what is the point of it all? Apparently being male = worhtless!

interesting video.


OP, i think you're doing that thing with putting women up on a pedestal. we've been brainwashed as men to hate ourselves. women arent that great though. you're just doing what women have always done to men in the past, when they were a lot more jealous of our place in the world. i personally have no illusions about females anymore.

i really think its just our society and the times we're in. Dont think things will stay the same though, everything is always in flux. This is just a backlash and we're feeling the punishment for behavior of men in the past. This wont last. Things will swing in our favor again in the future when people become more and more aware of just how unfair the world is on males right now.

i think a lot of the reason things are the way they are is because right now we live in these totally tame environments. That changes the moment theres some new frontier to explore. Then we're back to throwing male lives away to tame those new situations. which will also increase the value of males and their perspective on life no end.

one way to get a bit more of a feeling of why men are valuable is to travel and experience cultures that arent so tame as the ones we're living in. Cultures that exist in countries that are more dangerous value men a hell of a lot more than ones that exist in countries like our own.

The truth is, men are braver than women. Men like to put themselves in challenging situations. Its not that men are suited for those more dangerous situations but rather thay find situations that require risks more interesting. it's that bravery, that wish to put themselves in harms way that gives men the tools to thrive in harsh conditions.

the whole reason people are where they are is because of men. Its that roaming, finding new places to explore point of view that has advanced technology to its current state. No female could ever replace a male in that regard. how many inventions and new things were created by females? Without males and their perspective on life we wouldnt be where we are right now, for good or bad.

im not saying females are worthless, im just saying that the world has need of both points of view and that is never going to change. If it did, the human race would stagnate and die off.

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the entire female population can not be stereotyped in this way. just as the entire male population are not club wielding sexist thugs. don't let your maleness be defined by others, I know for a fact that there are many woman who like to be cared for and feel protected as well as being independent . don't despair I know feminism is not about disempowering man or stealing their non existent throne but is about finding their identity as a fellow human floating on this odd and confusing world.

It's not like it's easy being a women either

Women are more often objectified, and there are set a lot higher expectations to females when it comes to appearance. Sometimes for us women it feels like we have to strive towards this marketed "perfection", because that's how the media portrays us, and it therefore seems that many people have started to believe that this is how women are supposed to be like in reality. Now that is frustrating to because it is very hard to live up to that, and it affects our self esteem. Also it is proven that women are treated differently in many other situations to, for example often women earn less money than men do, even though they have the same job.

Don't claim that women's lives are easier than men's life are.. It varies from person to person, but generally speaking living is just as easy/hard for women as for men.

I think a lot of women feel they don't need men, but want them. This, IMO, is good for men. Why? When a woman is with you, it's not because she needs to be protected, cared for in all ways, or comforted because you have a penis. They essentially will choose you as a person, instead of choosing you because you have a penis. When that woman comes along, she will want you because of who you are, and not because of the gender you were born as. This means if you meet a woman who thinks like this, they will (hopefully) want you for who you are.

Wouldn't you rather a woman have her own identify and sense of comfort instead of relying on you for it? When this hypothetical woman would be content like this, she will be able to be less dependent on you and simply want you for love.

Don't fret; you are not worthless!

Killing stuff.

This seems needlessly cruel to Genital Sorting enthusiasts.

You deserve way better than to live by the grace of others and their opinion. There's no ''use'' in people, women and men are just as useful and useless. Imo it's a non-item and a non-dicussion. You aren't less worthy or anything just because a certain stereotype in society falls away, it's part of constant cultural transformation. And if someone makes you feel uncomfortable or worthless, get rid of that person. And if someone's being hateful, ignore the sad creature.

I'm aware of the feminist argument, "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle". But it is completely specious. For starters, the sperm in a sperm bank has to originate with some man somewhere. Beyond that, most of the world's great inventions and developments have come from men. I could add that a lot of women think they don't need men because they feel safe without them. It is largely men who have made our society safe enough for women to feel like this.

Bottom line: Racial and ethnic groups could exist perfectly well without other racial and ethnic groups. But separate men and women and human society would vanish within a hundred years. Any separation along the line of sexes is completely specious. Let the feminists hate men; I say we love and celebrate each other.

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