Conspiracy amongst psychologists/medical profs

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27 Nov 2013, 11:37 am

As paranoid as the title would seem im certain that something on my medical file isaffecting my ability to get proper mental care. I had my first assessment today for general mental health issues. The aim was to determine what course of action would best suit me. I expounded at length on my ocd issues and the psych made notes aplenty but when I brought up my social issues she stopped writing completely

. I also had an opportunity to see the referral from the doctor which mentioned OCD and my codeine habit but failed to mention social skills or anything else.

The end result was that she clearly didnt want to send me to be diagnosed I had to convince her to even consider it. Next step is my waiting for a call while she consults with the GP. It felt as if theyve decided I have OCD and anything else is extraneous.

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27 Nov 2013, 12:08 pm

As they say its not paranoia if its real and the situation with the doctors does sound fishy. In this case you have to be your own advocate and not give up. Do whatever you have to do to get a complete examination of your symtoms and do not give up until you, not they, are satisfied that they have the correct diagnosis. It may be appealing to your doctor for additional disgnostics or testing or getting a new doctor if they will not work with you. You have to balance being insistant, but also polite. They need to know you are not going away until you are convinced about the thoughness and accuracy of their findings.

At the end of the day your just another patient to them, but the squeaky wheel does in fact get the grease.



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27 Nov 2013, 1:23 pm

I know what you mean about watching note taking. I've also seen referrals that seem to somewhat overplay certain aspects from my perspective, given what I've talked about with that doctor or assessor, and missed what I understood to be The Point.
I think the main thing is that being spread thin influences the way they're able to work. It sounds like you're in the UK. You're being relayed round a pretty dispersed system and I've never had the feeling that fleshing out the brief referral notes was something the psychologists and whoever have the resources to do properly, fully. So it's probably a matter of time, to demonstrate your fundamental difficulties. I know the feeling of trying to steer the subject towards what seems to be the missed point. I try to take the issue that's been written down, and talk about it mostly in the context of the bigger problem. I'd give it some time, for now.



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27 Nov 2013, 1:46 pm

While I'm sure there are fine mental health practitioners around, I haven't had much luck with them. My GP wanted to try me on some newly introduced meds. But my insurance company balked without a diagnosis. Well, there is only one mental health professional within a hundred miles--a psychologist. So, I went to see her. I told her I wanted an AS diagnosis. Within the first ten seconds of our visit, she assured me I didn't have AS. I then protested, telling her I had all the symptoms. She got annoyed and asked if I knew what an AS diagnosis entailed. It turns out that AS wasn't something she was qualified to deal with, so I didn't have it. I'm not going to waste my time or money again.



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27 Nov 2013, 5:56 pm

A lot of the time they will write down and take extensive notes on something like OCD, Anxiety or depression in order to have a reason to refer you. Usually then they ask the person they have referred you to check if there are any underlying conditions that may be causing those.

That's how it works here due to the nature of the system. If you find you are referred and they do not look for underlying causes - that is when you ask point blank if there could be an underlying condition causing the OCD etc, and would they please check.


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02 Dec 2013, 5:03 pm

Iv'e had a hard time with mental health professionals for years. I had a therapist who was also a mental health nurse on the same team as my doctor. She never believed anything I told her, was trying to manipulate into thinking and living as she wanted me to. She said I just had low self esteem yet by glazing over things I was telling her in a very harsh way as well as calling me an attention seeker she managed to crush my self esteem. Four years on since I finished with her I am still working through issues caused by her. All along I knew something was up and all I wanted to do was find out what.
Anyway my point is another counselor pointed me in the direction of AS and when I asked the psychiatrist to be referred to be tested he displayed the same attitude. I was getting pretty sick of them at this stage so I went privately. Luckily I had the means at the time to do that. I now have a diagnosis and it puts things into perspective for me with regards to depression and anxiety. I'm still on meds and still have six month check ups with them but I don't really listen to them any more because they still have that view of me as attention seeking and dramatic. My difficulty with verbal communication skills probably doesn't help either.



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03 Dec 2013, 3:34 am

I have had similar issues. But OCD can affect a whole lot of your life. To be honest it has taken a few month of therapy for me to seperate my aspie traits from my OCD traits.


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04 Dec 2013, 4:44 am

They may have decided that you are just obsessing about AS. If you could mention it to them in a calm and rational way starting with "I know I have OCD and it may seem like I'm obsessing about AS, but I've actually looked at it calmly and it's something that I've been wondering about off and on for a while. It may seem like I'm obsessing here because I mention it and I'm pushing for an evaluation, but that's to satisfy my own curiosity. Can we please use this therapy session to discuss the possibility of my having AS, and I can tell you why I think I may have it and you can discuss that with me and either ease my mind about it or decide if you think it's something that we might want to rule out by assessment?"

Asking to use your session to discuss it, assuring her that it's something that you have thought of off and on for a while, and asking her opinion about it, and asking to discuss it to ease your mind or possibly to be referred for a diagnosis may make them see that it's not just another obsession.



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05 Dec 2013, 4:04 am

Thelibrarian wrote:
While I'm sure there are fine mental health practitioners around, I haven't had much luck with them. My GP wanted to try me on some newly introduced meds. But my insurance company balked without a diagnosis. Well, there is only one mental health professional within a hundred miles--a psychologist. So, I went to see her. I told her I wanted an AS diagnosis. Within the first ten seconds of our visit, she assured me I didn't have AS. I then protested, telling her I had all the symptoms. She got annoyed and asked if I knew what an AS diagnosis entailed. It turns out that AS wasn't something she was qualified to deal with, so I didn't have it. I'm not going to waste my time or money again.

But... how often in a psychologist's career do you think that people come to see them who "want" and Asperger's diagnosis? Most patients show up with something that hurts, and the psychologist tries to make it go away. And most all of their autism patients are children who are having problems that teachers or parents have noticed. Not self diagnosed twenty year old people who need a diagnosis to get pills that their GP wants to try on them.


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05 Dec 2013, 9:03 pm

We had to see a childhood development specialist to get my diagnosis. Most of my doctors thought i just had OCD. and I do but I also have AS.


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