why do women have to be so mean and condecending

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I'm tired of women making me feel like I need to die.
they wouldn't like men doing that to them. do they want millions o men to hate all women?

I know...women can be like that sometimes. Men, too.

But nobody wants to see you go away.

People want to see you alive.

How exactly do women make you feel that way?

Do they say that they want you to kill yourself?

Sly equates women being condescending to women wanting him to die.

This is erroneous.

Sly has lots of virtues, I'm sure.

I don't think all women are mean or condescending, but they're clearly very fed up with men who aren't up to their standards showing interest in them, so the only marginally safe course of action is to avoid contact with them.

sly, we have been over this before and you already know what I think. And I'll say it again - having a girlfriend will not solve you're problems. You need to deal with your negative self talk and bad attitude. Will you consider CBT? It doesn't involve drugs.

catch-22 problem isn't it?

The solution to the problem is precisely what the problem denies.

Personally I tried cognitive based therapy and found it to be a joke. It's all about pretending to be 'normal' so you deceive everyone and get what you want... but then you end up with what you wanted but achieved through a lie and that...makes it meaningless. Catch-22.

Not all women are like that. That would be like saying all men want to control women and sit in their man cave drinking beer, scratching themselves, and communicate only in grunts while their wives do all the cooking and cleaning.

A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.

CBT would never be my first recommendation. In my struggles I have only had one success with CBT and it was because my facilitator knew what she was doing. But most don't. I find for myself that medication and CBT have, in combination, helped me. But sly will not take meds.

there was a home improvement episode where he had to give tools back to a contractor and they talked in grunts lol. and it had a translation below them lol.

i didn't mean all women. I was just tired and fed up with it and had it happen with a lady last night.

no i relate them saying I'm sub standard and worthless to wanting me to die. they see me as a burden surely me dieing would then free them of that burden

condescending is just mean. its treating people like children. I've noticed women do it a lot when they disagree with you but dont' just say so. they pretend to agree with you in a condecending tone. so you know they don't actually agrree with you. its a mind game meant to confuse and belittle us.

maybe but non of them matter without the high income. many women say I'd make a good bf until they find out I make min wage. so they like that I'm romantic, kind, caring, sweet, cute, funny, and sexual stuff, but all that goes into the trash over income. baffers me how women will have a guy that meets 99% of their wants and refuse him over a single issue, they want perfection.

though some will accept a guy who lacks all the stuff I do as long as he has high income.

to me this is insane. money isnt' important. all the other stuff. you know personality and intersts is the important things. or you might as well just be a whore and exchange sex for money. if you are witha guy who doens't meat the other stuff you want but has money then that's what they'll doing. sure its not outright because you're pretending to have a relationship. but if you exchanging your sex for his income what else is it?
not saying all women do this, but some women even say they give the guy "comfort" for his income. can they really not see it for what it is?

got in a arguement wtih lady over it. shes like the majority of women so I thoght since shes talking to me I could ask her about that stuff and find out whats the min money the majority of women like here would accept but she wont' anwser.

i don't get it. they say they not asshamed of it and they right ot demand it so why act ashamed by not answering.

if you ask me about stuff I do and I'm not asshamed of it I'll tell you. most people will talk about stuff they aren't ashamed of but won't if they are. so is part of her ashamed shes superficial?

So is this all a build up to blaming women for your failure to fulfill yourself? If so, that's kind of pathetic. If you're going to self-destruct do you really need a scapegoat?
Honestly, you need to deal with your issues before you can begin to think about a relationship.

but it will.
its not self talk its from others. I just stopped fighting it.
if i had a gf that would mean she didn't care about the stuff and loves me so I would be free from all that negative and depressing talk from others. wouldn't have to care about what they think.



huh? o.O
only failure to fulfill is to fulfill women's standard of men.

my standards are just to be loved and love. thats it.I don't want big expensive houses, or nice cars, I don't want to own tons of electronics. I don' need to go on vacations.

but they aren't my issues their women's issues.

I don't want a decent job. women demand I have one. so I push myself to do things I don't want.

much like kids go to college to become a doctor because their parents want them to but they want to be a painter. so they hate all the schooling.

I think if love or women didn't exist I'd be quite happy. but women and love do exist and its a huge part of my personality. imagine if a painter could never get paints. he'd be super depressed. well romance and love is a big part of my personalty I seem to be quite naturally good at it. yet I'm never allowed to do it. I suck at a lot of things in life. but that stuff I'm good at it may be the only thing I'm good at.

If that's the way you feel about women, there's no way you'll get a girlfriend. You're saying that women wished you didn't exist, but now the shoe is on the other foot. And I agree with what the others are saying here, that you're not ready for a relationship, nor is a relationship necessarily going to make things any better for you. I recommend that you take, or at least show appreciation of, the help and advice people have been giving you. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I feel as if you're being ungrateful. For example, one of your threads (Why do people care if others they hate kill themselves?) has ~20 pages of advice and encouragement, a lot of people try to help you and give you advice, and you still wallow in sadness, saying that you want to leave WP because you say that no-one cares about you.

I like women
but thats the problem when women don't like me because I make min wage. so it causes depression. I don't wish women didn't exist. I mearly stated that if they didn't like never ever existed I'd not like them and not become depressed or stressed to try to meet their super high standards while I keep failing ot which causes me to become more depressed and feel completely hopeless.

well i disagree with all of you. you dont' lknow me.

it also had a bunch of discouragement.


for ever encouragement on this site I get twice as much discouragement.

telling me why I'm worthless isn't encourage ment advising me to compeltely change hwo I am stop doign the things I like isnt' encouragement. saying i need to just man up and get a high paying job while ignoring the fact I can't and have tried isn't encouragement.

olivemom seems to want to actually help me. so I'll keep waiting for her, meanwhile I still have to deal with all the negativity towards me

I do thank people.
last time ann said what she said I thanked her for caring but said I didn't want to take meds. I wasn't be scarstic. I was really thanking her for caring. I don't' agree with her opinion but I was touched she seemed to care about me a little.

no one and i mean no one is ever ready for a relationship but billions of people do it anways. its impossible to be ready for one. you're never have all your stuff together , never complete your list of requirements. if I learned anything its that love and relationship is not logical at all so you can't be ready for it.

its much like how women will say if men didn't exist there'd be no wars. I doubt they actually want all men to die, or really beleive that it would solve all wars, women are quite violent too. they say it in the emotional state.