Men who work retail are just lazy and need to get a real

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Read the comments and it's just one site googling brings up many many more sites with just as many similar comments. Men who don't make a lot of money are worthless and should be dumped or not even dated. But reversed and that's how it's preferred is ok. A woman can live with a guy and have him buy all her stuff and it's ok. But if a guy works and just doesn't make in the 20s per hour he's worthless and horrible person.

Who do these people expect to buy their food from, their electronics, their gas? Without retail and service jobs the world would ground to s halt. There's not enough rich men for all the women in the world unless they start doing 10 women to 1 guy.
Look the economy sucks and just about everyone is going to college and getting degrees now a days so those high paying jobs are in high demand and low supply. Means most degree people won't get hired. When a retail store opens thousands of people apply and only like 100 or less get hired. And that's retail. Imagine how many apply for the high paying real jobs. So maybe it's time most women snap out of it and join us in the real world instead of trying to live in the clouds.

good points, but kinda preachy. you'll do better finding someone by using a lighter touch.

What do you mean? The comments are preachy?

i think she means you come across as preachy, sly.

i agree with your points, though.

Well just feel sad and like I need to die. I can't even enjoy work because of this. Knowing me and my job is worthless. That all the customers are above me and look down on me as sub human likely. I'd like to live but doesn't seem like that's an option in today's society. Probably just going end up another number in a large list of men who kill themselves. What happen to women why have they become so greedy and superficial why don't they want love anymore. I still don't know how to do it though and I'm afraid I'll panic and freak out which doesn't sound like a pleasant death. But isn't any other option for low sub human men like me apparently we're just a burden to women everywhere.

You're not sub-human and I'm sure your customers don't look down on you. Given that 15% of Americans live below the poverty line and get SNAP (food stamps), you're also far from alone in being poor. At a minimum, there are equally poor women (lots of them) who you'll know aren't dating you for your money!

And didn't you just meet a lovely girl at work, who seems to like you? Just as you are?

However, I think expecting anything of a partner that you don't expect of yourself is unreasonable. So if the girl has a good job and wants a guy with a good job, fair play to her. In my book, that's not greedy or superficial.

looked at that site and came away with a different impression--girls are actually giving guys a chance and they are venting about the failures. I think those sites are great--as women get more experience they are more likely to consider as nerdy engineers for dates.

Problem is the poor girls all demand guys with high paying jobs too. They want a guy who shelter them and pay for them etc.

She has a bf.

But I see lots of women expecting guys to have better jobs then them, be fitter then them, etc

Watch the women who rejected you in their early 20s hit 30 dragging a kid along.

Suddenly, it is you who get to be choosy

I'm approaching 30 and suddenly, women who paid no attention to me in their early 20s have suddenly become very interested and flirty.

Raising another mans kid is a dealbreaker for me though.

I just enjoy the attention. I think of it as poetic justice

They still don't want me. That only applies to men who become successful in their 30s. Women with kids are even less likely to like me. Not that I want to date a lady with kids anyways.

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The golddiggers you don't want (and don't want you, but that's sort of irrelevant) but statistically, there are oodles of women poor enough to be on SNAP and they statistically can't all be golddiggers. Even if half are (way too high an estimate to be reasonable), there'd still be oodles of non-gold digging poor enough to get food stamps women left in the dating pool for you!

Have you considered treatment or screening for depression? Your self-loathing and anxiety and presumption of persecution leaps off the page.
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Just saw one on cl. 3 kids with 3 guys , really big but wants thin guy but upset no one will dat her for being big.

I'm willing to date women who are not over weight. I'm not wanting from women anymore then I'm going to give or am.

I'm a woman. Why are you saying these mean things about me?

That woman will either find someone or stay single (and presumably need to reconsider her standards). You'll either find someone or need to reconsider your standards.

Plenty of broke men find love, get married, hell find relationships while unemployed on food stamps (see: NYT on America's poorest white city's drug problem) or worse. It's not stopping them, so isn't stopping you from finding love either.

I noticed this, too. In my 30s was when I was the most popular with women. Women of that age seem to realize that they have to play a more active role in the dating game to attract a man, and be more that just a hot body in bed to keep him.Yeah, you have to watch out for women whose only desire for you is to provide an income for them to raise their children. It happens. Sometimes you get lucky, and the kid actually likes you too; but the chances against that happening decrease with an increase in the number of children.It is, especially when I ran into some women from high school. Each one of them tried to play the "I always liked you, but I was to shy to say anything to you" card. It was when I reminded them of what they had actually said to me back then that made the "poetic justice" grand. Of course, I reminded them only after we had spent a few nights together, and when they started dropping hints about cohabitating and sharing expenses.

Maybe they thought that I'd be so grateful for their attention I would be desperate for the chance to live together; but again, at that time of my life, I was not about to let my new-found popularity go to waste on an opportunistic gold-digger.

Exactly. Maybe, just maybe the problem is that he doesn't see women as individuals as varied in personality and values as men but rather as a monolithic group? And here I was going to bring up all the examples of couples I know who met while working in retail or where the guy works in retail...I must've been mistaken, because obviously no women would be ungreedy or non-superficial enough to have fallen in love with them.