Wondering if I am capable of empathy.

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KagamineLen
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05 Apr 2016, 11:51 am

Every time I tried to express empathy for others when I was growing up, I got the message that I had no right to because I did not know what I was talking about. People around me expressed the fact that they felt personally humiliated whenever I tried anything like that.

Maybe nobody wanted to associate themselves with me. Or maybe I really am incapable of empathy. I find that I spend a lot of time posting about my problems, but I also find that it is difficult for me to reach out to others in need, even though I really do wish I knew what to say to help bolster them up.

Not sure what else to add to this.



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05 Apr 2016, 12:53 pm

Well, your not the only one. Even when I do manage to figure out what other people are feeling I generally have no idea how to properly respond.


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05 Apr 2016, 1:05 pm

Rational answers are likely to get you punched in the face, but, of course, the first irrational answer you come up with will get you punched even harder.


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05 Apr 2016, 3:31 pm

I will admit it. I crave admiration and empathy. Or maybe that is an emotional overreaction to just want to be treated like a normal human for a change. How do I cope as a peer, when I consider the people around me to be superior, shall I be superior myself?

Does that even make sense?



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05 Apr 2016, 3:51 pm

My nature is to truly care about people who are hurting, and I want to help them. But I've come to accept that I'm just not good at it, and my attempts to say something kind and encouraging often completely miss the mark. I've come to realize that I'm not being helpful at all, so I just keep quiet and try not to make them feel worse.



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05 Apr 2016, 4:16 pm

Better off without empathy.



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05 Apr 2016, 4:23 pm

sly279 wrote:
Better off without empathy.


I don't believe that for one second.

Without empathy, we would have a planet full of sociopaths. Without empathy, the human race would have killed itself off a very long time ago.

The issue I am feeling is that I think there is a glass barrier between me and most NTs. I see what they are going through, but the barrier keeps me from being able to properly do the right thing, for I usually do not have a clue what the right thing to do actually is.

Does that make sense?



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05 Apr 2016, 4:34 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Better off without empathy.


I don't believe that for one second.

Without empathy, we would have a planet full of sociopaths. Without empathy, the human race would have killed itself off a very long time ago.

The issue I am feeling is that I think there is a glass barrier between me and most NTs. I see what they are going through, but the barrier keeps me from being able to properly do the right thing, for I usually do not have a clue what the right thing to do actually is.

Does that make sense?


In the partial sense he does have a point but only just because people tend to run themselves into the ground caring what other people think of them. Then again it depends on whether he speaks of both types of empathy being attentive and cognitive empathy or if he just means one xD



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05 Apr 2016, 5:14 pm

We already have a planet full and run by sociopaths.

Constantly feeling the pan of their victims isn't fun I can tell you :(



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05 Apr 2016, 5:17 pm

sly279 wrote:
We already have a planet full and run by sociopaths.

Constantly feeling the pan of their victims isn't fun I can tell you :(


We live in a planet where the vast majority of sociopaths beat their chests the loudest.

The common man can compose himself despite that.



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05 Apr 2016, 6:38 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
I will admit it. I crave admiration and empathy. Or maybe that is an emotional overreaction to just want to be treated like a normal human for a change. How do I cope as a peer, when I consider the people around me to be superior, shall I be superior myself?

Does that even make sense?

It is not an over-reaction. Your perception of yourself compared to others seems pretty skewed against you.


It's hard, it depends on the person and the situation. Some people like solutions. Some people want to feel loved and cared for and that itself can fix a lot. Other people just want to be heard but don't want any advice. Other people you will never be able to help no matter what you do because you're just not the right person or their head isn't in the right space. Other people you will feel like a broken record with advice or points of view but every time you offer that opinion it still helps.


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