Arghh so sick of alcoholic world!

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01 Jun 2016, 9:51 pm

I tried so hard to avoid alcoholic world but its so everywhere. People drink a lot these days and always use it in social settings like dinners, parties and other activities. Why we need alcohol to destroy our human bodies, like an abuse of healthy cells, in return of socially acceptable way?

I don't drink because there are so many factors that is so problematic. Its unhealthy, a drug, a chemistry lab processed drink, promotion to violence/sexual harassment, promotion to poor behaviour, development of poor confidence in life without the substance.

So alcohol is a drug, a legal drug. Why its legal? Because the marketing and branding is so powerful, that aids people to drink it and use to make an excuses of their behaviour. I know not everyone go and get drunk, but it is still damaging to our planet. It destroys our environment by pollution, unsustainable agriculture practices, rise in mental health issues, rise of violence and deaths. Alcohol is one of top 5 mortality in the world. Buying drinks is a gamble.

When I speak about this to my family and friends, they always see me judgmental. I understand that, but its quite conservative for not taking consideration of the impacts that I mentioned. So promotion of alcohol and drugs in advertisements everywhere in the public place. Is it good for future generations? People start drinking so much younger these days, same for sexual activities too. its because of the promotion and sexualisation of the society.

So the world is not as safe as I thought.



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01 Jun 2016, 10:19 pm

I hear you. I have always thought it is strange that alcohol is used by people who advocate for the "war on drugs" while getting blotto on their own preferred drug and ignore the violence that can stem from its abuse. We live in a very hypocritical culture and there are lots of double standards.



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01 Jun 2016, 11:20 pm

Agreed, and you see the oddities here too!

1. nurses take a smoke break from their job - telling their patients not to smoke because its unhealthy
2. doctors heavily drink during their college years - doesn't while being a doctor and tells their clients don't drink more than two glasses/bottles a day
3. sporting industries promote gambling, alcohol and drugs advertisements - doesn't relate to sporting activities

So the world is based on consuming marketing and branding capitalism that drives profits on businesses to create an economy. So what's going on? Lets rewind back to 20th century?



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01 Jun 2016, 11:38 pm

I like alcohol in small amounts, it helps me relax.



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02 Jun 2016, 2:06 am

Ecomatt91 wrote:
I tried so hard to avoid alcoholic world but its so everywhere. People drink a lot these days and always use it in social settings like dinners, parties and other activities. Why we need alcohol to destroy our human bodies, like an abuse of healthy cells, in return of socially acceptable way?

I don't drink because there are so many factors that is so problematic. Its unhealthy, a drug, a chemistry lab processed drink, promotion to violence/sexual harassment, promotion to poor behaviour, development of poor confidence in life without the substance.

So alcohol is a drug, a legal drug. Why its legal? Because the marketing and branding is so powerful, that aids people to drink it and use to make an excuses of their behaviour. I know not everyone go and get drunk, but it is still damaging to our planet. It destroys our environment by pollution, unsustainable agriculture practices, rise in mental health issues, rise of violence and deaths. Alcohol is one of top 5 mortality in the world. Buying drinks is a gamble.

When I speak about this to my family and friends, they always see me judgmental. I understand that, but its quite conservative for not taking consideration of the impacts that I mentioned. So promotion of alcohol and drugs in advertisements everywhere in the public place. Is it good for future generations? People start drinking so much younger these days, same for sexual activities too. its because of the promotion and sexualisation of the society.

So the world is not as safe as I thought.


It's not just marketing. Alcoholic drinks are a big part of human history and tradition. I agree on many of your points, but alcohol won't go anywhere anytime soon. The question people need to ask is, "Why do I drink?"



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02 Jun 2016, 2:15 am

When I first clicked on your post, an ad appeared right below it for a rehab center specializing in alcoholism. I guess that proves your point. :roll: :roll: I see billboards bashing cigarettes-even electronic cigs-everywhere, but rarely if ever do I see anti-booze ads.

Up until "Prohibition", which was the outlawing of alcohol in the US between 1920 and 1933, the US had a strong "temperance", or anti-alcohol, movement for much of its history. Women made up much of the leadership, since men tended to become violent after drinking, and take it out on their wives. Look up Carrie Nation, who walked into saloons with a group of women, all wielding axes, which they then used to destroy the interiors. They never killed anybody that I'm aware of, but they did wreck a number of saloons.

Anyway, keeping that in mind, it's remarkable that there's virtually no anti-alcohol movement in the US today, except for Alcoholics Anonymous, which doesn't work, and the "rehab" industry, which doesn't work either. The supermarket near my home, which is located in an upper-middle-class area, recently completed a gut remodel job. Instead of being a food store that has a wine and beer aisle, they now seem to be a wine shop that sells a little food on the side. I'm not sure who they're competing with, this isn't one of those areas that has a liquor store on every corner, their only real competition seems to be a small wine and liquor store a couple miles away.

What's especially lulzy is that the celeb rag tabloids have been banished from the checkstands to the general interest magazine rack, along with most of the women's interest magazines, such as Cosmopolitan. Trash tabloids are bad, but it's ok to have rack after rack of expensive wine, and huge coolers for "artisan" liquor, right up front. :roll: :roll:



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02 Jun 2016, 5:21 am

So you want Prohibition back then?


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02 Jun 2016, 5:26 am

ZD wrote:
So you want Prohibition back then?


Sorry assumed you were in the US which might not be the case :) just seemed American the post.


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02 Jun 2016, 6:25 am

Why is it any of your business if I want to get drunk. Even everyday if I choose.

We've had sex and booze since the dawn of time and we're still here.

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02 Jun 2016, 2:07 pm

When exactly alcohol and FUN started to mean the same?

You know, when I watch kids having fun I really, really have to remind myself that their pure joy is nothing but an illusion, since they haven't yet been introduced with the realest FUN of them all - booze! :lol:



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02 Jun 2016, 3:08 pm

It's legal because people want it to be legal, it is not entirely without dangers but that is why moderation exists. It does not in itself promote violence or sexual harassment it doesn't particularly promote anything. Also it doesn't sound like you know much about how beer is made....its not a chemical lab processed drink it's made from fermented hops and other ingredients that grow in the ground. If you don't like it don't drink it and encourage people to drink responsibly, but I certainly don't want to experience a re-creation of the Prohibition era. Also there are a lot of breweries that are incorporating alternate energy sources they certainly aren't the main source of pollution in the world.


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02 Jun 2016, 3:13 pm

beakybird wrote:
Why is it any of your business if I want to get drunk. Even everyday if I choose.


Even everyday if I choose or evey everyday if I need it?



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02 Jun 2016, 3:25 pm

Neither. Every day (two words).



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02 Jun 2016, 4:17 pm

No one is forcing you to drink alcohol or consume any other substances that are harmful to you. I for example smoke 1/3 a pack a day, have a shot of vodka after dinner and go drinking once every two months. Just because others live differently than you doesn't mean you have to go along with such habits. However it doesn't give you the right to impose your will on others either.



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02 Jun 2016, 4:29 pm

Perhaps I misunderstood the OP because I didn't get that he was opposed to individual choice. Rightly or wrongly my take was that he was expressing his response to living in a booze-saturated society. Alcohol is the dominant drug, legalised, protected, promoted, enculturated, enabled and anyone questioning its privileged status risks facing some hostility.



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02 Jun 2016, 4:55 pm

Obviously I don't think it should be illegal but it being more acceptable than say marijuana makes no sense at all. I use to drink a lot; I had some fun but I also blacked out a lot, hurt myself, and just acted a fool while it did a number on my body. I'm like really skinny now, 140 or lower but I was in the high 180s when I was drinking 'full time' even getting up to 193. I don't drink really anymore, occasionally but never alone. Once you start drinking on your own and not socially it really becomes a problem, I always drank to get drunk(****faced) too it wasn't a good thing. Now I get a decent hangover from drinking a lot, when I was really drinking I pretty much never got them. Part of it was the drinking culture I came from was totally unhealthy not to mention my dad was most definitely an alcoholic most of my life up until the point they told him he could get liver cancer if he continued.