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15 Jun 2016, 6:37 pm

So this is my first ever experience with losing someone. I was close to him when I was younger but did not see much of him after I was about 9 (his fault). I'm still quite sad though.

I'm also worried abouty mum as she is pretty heartbroken. She wanted to reconcile with him and forgive him but didn't get the chance

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15 Jun 2016, 7:05 pm

Yep.....losing somebody is always a tragedy. There always seems to be some sort of "unfinished business."

I'm glad you're there for your mother. I'm sure she's glad, too.



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15 Jun 2016, 9:18 pm

I would like to express my condolences.


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16 Jun 2016, 12:55 am

Sorry you are going through a hard time.


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16 Jun 2016, 7:01 am

Big hug from me.

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16 Jun 2016, 7:06 am

well he will be dead forever but he will never know that



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16 Jun 2016, 7:33 am

b9 wrote:
well he will be dead forever but he will never know that

Lol...how very autisitic-- a factual recitation in an emotional moment.


@Allie-- sorry for your loss.



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16 Jun 2016, 7:42 am

Aristophanes wrote:
b9 wrote:
well he will be dead forever but he will never know that

Lol...how very autisitic-- a factual recitation in an emotional moment..


it is a bit more than that. before we were born, everyone of us was "dead forever".
and it seemed to take no time for that forever to pass and then we all were born.

maybe it is the same after we die. i can not see any reason why it would not be.



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16 Jun 2016, 7:46 am

Who knows? Maybe we are not actually "dead" when we are "dead."

That's one of my fondest hopes, honestly.

But as I think about it, all this philosophical discussion doesn't really help Alliekit all that much (unless she happens to like the discussion).

I'm sure her granddad would not want Alliekit to be sad. I'm sure he would want her to live her life, and to do well in it.



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16 Jun 2016, 8:23 am

I'm sorry, Alliekit.

I lost my grandmother when I was in my 30's. I didn't think she was going to pass away. I visited her three days before her death. She was conscious and aware of things--but she had tubes all over the place. I should have known! Turns out she was nearer to passing away than I thought!

I have mostly good memories of my grandmother. She was a lousy cook---but she did take me to the park when I was young. And she cooked me farina, which was very good. I didn't see much of her after my childhood, though I visited her regularly in her nursing home during her last years.

About a month before she passed away, she actually had a crush on one of her orderlies!

I don't believe she was in pain when she went away.



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16 Jun 2016, 8:34 am

My grand-dad passed away in 1988. The same year, my (ex-)wife left me for another man, I became homeless, I lost my job, and then faced jail time for non-payment of child-support (no job --> no income --> no support).

I never really had the chance to mourn his passing, and to this day, I tear up whenever I think about him.

Grandparents ... just when you finally realize how grand they really are, they're gone.

@AK: I'm sure your grand-dad was a great man in his own way. I'm saddened for your loss.

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16 Jun 2016, 9:52 am

Fnord wrote:
My grand-dad passed away in 1988. The same year, my (ex-)wife left me for another man, I became homeless, I lost my job, and then faced jail time for non-payment of child-support (no job --> no income --> no support).

I never really had the chance to mourn his passing, and to this day, I tear up whenever I think about him.

Grandparents ... just when you finally realize how grand they really are, they're gone.

@AK: I'm sure your grand-dad was a great man in his own way. I'm saddened for your loss.

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That's the thing though. He wasn't a great man. He abandoned my mum and autism when they were 14 and took all my nans money leaving her without a house. He stopped making an effort to see me when I was 8. Yet im still sad about his death. I feel weird like I shouldnt be upset. I just always thought he would turn round and apologise for his mistakes.

Worse of all he died abroad without insurance. So we are being cheated of a burial because it costs to much to get his body home.



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16 Jun 2016, 10:09 am

That's the practical side of people passing away, unfortunately. It, invariably, puts more stress upon the living.

I believe you feel sad because he was a person, even though he wasn't a perfect person. He had faults.

And because of the financial stress of bringing the body home, etc. All that stuff is stressful.



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16 Jun 2016, 4:03 pm

Alliekit wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My grand-dad passed away in 1988. The same year, my (ex-)wife left me for another man, I became homeless, I lost my job, and then faced jail time for non-payment of child-support (no job --> no income --> no support). I never really had the chance to mourn his passing, and to this day, I tear up whenever I think about him. Grandparents ... just when you finally realize how grand they really are, they're gone. @AK: I'm sure your grand-dad was a great man in his own way. I'm saddened for your loss.
That's the thing though. He wasn't a great man. He abandoned my mum and autism when they were 14 and took all my nans money leaving her without a house. He stopped making an effort to see me when I was 8. Yet I'm still sad about his death. I feel weird like I shouldnt be upset. I just always thought he would turn round and apologise for his mistakes. Worst of all he died abroad without insurance. So we are being cheated of a burial because it costs to much to get his body home.
My dad died before he and I could reconcile our differences. All the hurt from that relationship is still there, too. While I can't say, "I know what you're going through", I can say that what you're going through will eventually be over, and life can get better ... quicker for some of us than for others ...


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16 Jun 2016, 4:39 pm

Sorry for your loss.

One set of grandparents I lost when I was younger, I don't have much memory of them. However the little I have was fond memories.

The other side my Grandfather was not such a great guy to get a long with, but when he got Alzheimers he became much nicer before he died. Didn't stop my mother's step brother getting him to sign over his business. I hate whole drama that happens around legacy and inheritance, some families get into.

My Grandmother became reclusive in later life, which I can relate to. Partly becuase of yes doctors giving a cocktail of sleeping pill, tranquilisers, etc for years. Pity she couldn't break out of that before she died. She rang me just before she died and I didn't handle the call as well as I would have liked.



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17 Jun 2016, 3:19 am

Alliekit wrote:
Worse of all he died abroad without insurance. So we are being cheated of a burial because it costs to much to get his body home.


Now that is horrible :( I hope you manage to sort something, is having the funeral abroad an option?


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