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03 Jul 2016, 4:46 am

I wish I didn't have to be there any more. I am not interested in the job, it's not what I want to do, but I can't just leave without another job, so I'm stuck there until I can find another job, which I can't see happening any time soon with today's economy. It's all so depressing.

I've been applying for other jobs, jobs I am more interested in, but I just get turned down every time.

The reason why I hate my job is because it's at a care home, and the head office are mean and don't care about the workers or the patients. They make us do paperwork in our own time, even though it's to do with the work, they make us learn and memorize loads and loads of information and send inspectors to the home randomly to ask random workers a random question and if we keep getting them wrong we could get fired. They hate anyone having any time off, even if you just have 1 day off you have to either prove it, take it as one of your paid annual leave, or get a threatening letter and temporary dismissal. Also they are monitoring closely on our attendance by fixing up a screen that examines our faces, which I don't think will work.

I just hate all the growing pressure. It never used to be like this. I want out NOW. I f*****g hate it. I only work there 3 days but each time I think about it I feel anxious and just want out. I want to hand in my notice soon. I hate money, I hate the govermnent forcing stressful s**t upon people like me who suffer anxiety and Asperger's. It's not fair. Please what do I do?????????? :cry: :cry: :cry:


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03 Jul 2016, 8:16 am

Keep applying for other jobs. No matter how long it takes, if you keep on and on, something else is bound to be offered sooner or later, you just have to never stop trying, or it definitely won't. Keeping up the search is key. Positions become available over time, you just have to hang in there and keep the search constant until something comes open.

Is there any possibility of leaving that job and qualifying for a short spell on Jobseeker's Allowance? Getting to break away from the depressing and oppressing effects that your current position is having on you might be the "clean air" you need to feel more confident about continuing your search for a better job, and the JSA will float you financially until you find something. It's not as much as an income but it's still some money coming in, and they also can help you track down jobs. It's not a wonderful experience but it might even be less depressing than staying in that place with your horrible bosses and no days off.



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03 Jul 2016, 9:08 am

I am considering on leaving that job and applying for JSA, but I heard that if you resign, you have to wait at least 6 months to claim. That is a long while when I haven't got much money to support myself for 6 months, and my family can't really afford to keep me.

I want to go on JSA so that I can have plenty of time to look for other work and take more opportunities like go on courses, without the stress of my sh***y job weighing me down.


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03 Jul 2016, 10:25 am

I didn't know you can't get it for six months if you resign -- yikes. I hate to encourage underhand methods, but is there a benign way you could get yourself fired? Like taking off too many days, which they seem to be real sticklers about? If there is something non-mean and non-harmful and non-illegal that could make them be the ones to tell you they're letting you go, maybe that's your only way of getting away without being in a pickle afterwards.

It really does sound like it's killing your soul and you need out.



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03 Jul 2016, 11:35 am

BirdInFlight wrote:
I didn't know you can't get it for six months if you resign -- yikes. I hate to encourage underhand methods, but is there a benign way you could get yourself fired? Like taking off too many days, which they seem to be real sticklers about? If there is something non-mean and non-harmful and non-illegal that could make them be the ones to tell you they're letting you go, maybe that's your only way of getting away without being in a pickle afterwards.

It really does sound like it's killing your soul and you need out.


I was actually thinking along those lines as well. Either that or get a sick not from the doctor for stress or something like that.

You wont get JSA if you resign unless you had good reasons for resigning, like you was being bullied or something like that. They do sometimes pay you but most of the time you will be sanctioned for resigning.

Also there are instances for sanctioning you benefits even if you have been fired. The government have got it stitched up so that it's really difficult to claim benefits once you are in a job.

I work in a call center where my job is performance related. at times where I have been struggling and not really wanted to be there I have had to tell my boss that he will have to fire me because I literally cannot leave, even if I wanted to.


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03 Jul 2016, 11:42 am

Yes I wonder if Joe90 could tell her doctor exactly what's happening to her mental health in this job, explain the pressure her bosses put her under -- it's got to be illegal how little time off the staff are allowed there, for one thing -- and then her doctor could issue a letter that the Jobcentre would honour?

Although knowing them, they wouldn't. It's true they try to do anything to not let you get anything if they can help it.



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03 Jul 2016, 1:09 pm

I'm not sure if I am keen on the idea of getting the sack, as it might go against me when looking for a new job. If I get the sack for, say, having a lot of time off, new employers might not want to employ me because they might think that I am unreliable with attendance. And I am not the sort of person who gets into jobs very easily. I spent over 4 years on job-seekers before I got the job I'm in now, and I had a good CV even then. I done voluntary work and went on temporary courses whilst on job-seekers but still didn't get a job easily, whilst some people seem to have a knack and seem to be able to get themselves into any job, not by qualifications and intelligence, but by being socially skilled. I'm not so good at that.

Also I want to relocate, as my partner lives 25 miles away from my hometown and the plan is to move in with him, but I can't whilst I am working where I work now because of the long distance travelling all the way to work and back on a bus early in the morning. Sometimes the bus gets held up in traffic and becomes almost an hour late, and I know for sure that work would get nasty with me. But I can't claim job-seekers if I move in with him because there's a stupid policy where you are unable to claim if you are living with a partner. Ridiculous really, because you can claim job-seekers when living at home with your parents but you can't claim when living with a partner. You'd think that would be the other way around, as a lot of people are financially better off living with their parents without a job than they are living with a partner without a job. My partner earns enough money so I am unable to claim job-seekers if I live with him, but not really enough to keep me, and I can't expect him to do that anyway because it's cheeky and not really fair on him.

It's a bit of a pickle of a situation really.


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03 Jul 2016, 4:39 pm

Wow that's a rotten situation, the fact that a person can't claim JSA if they're living with a partner, even though they can claim it while living with parents. I think that's a terrible policy, because it renders a woman completely dependent on her partner whether that's a comfortable situation or not, and whether there is enough income for them both or not. There are times in life when maybe one partner has to rely on the other by mutual agreement, but that JSA situation all but forces it, which is bad.

About getting fired for time off and how that might impact future job interviews; you could explain that their allocation of time off was an unfair policy that didn't allow you time for a situation you had to address --- all of which is true; you have stress you are dealing with and you know you can't even approach those people for some personal time off.

You don't have to mention the stress reason to the next person who interviews you, just keep it private and say there was a one-time situation you needed to request time off for, in a sense "compassionate leave," but they wouldn't allow it and fired you for taking the time.

Of course this is only a suggestion, and I think I would try to make this scenario real if I were in your shoes and this desperate to get rid of this job.

It is a risk to have to explain to future potential employers, but it's the only scenario I can think of that might be looked upon with understanding even so, as long as you emphasize that the time you needed off was a one-time thing.

Most workplaces are far better about time off and sick days, as there is a policy but it doesn't seem like your current workplace sticks to the guidelines as much as I believe they're supposed to. This is what makes me think that other employers, if they heard about your current place's harshness, might look kindly upon this as your reason for being fired.

However, don't take my advice as gospel -- you need to think very carefully about this. It's just that I can't see a way around this situation other than trying to get fired for the least harmful reason, and the one that involves something they already seem unreasonable about (ie sick days and time off).



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03 Jul 2016, 5:59 pm

Hating work is part of having a job. Just comes with the territory for most people. I'm with you though. I usually just get high before work and during lunch. Helps me. :lol:



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04 Jul 2016, 1:16 am

Hi, It sounds like you are already doing a lot by applying for other jobs. Ideally, what kind of job would you like? Is there any sort of class or training you could do that would help you be able to get a different job?


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04 Jul 2016, 4:57 am

I do love cats and I would love to work with cats. I wouldn't want to be a vet because I'd experience very heartbreaking moments, but working at something like a cat refuge, I would love. I suppose I could try and look into that.


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