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12 May 2007, 7:14 am

Yes thats what my dad just told me. They are sick of walking on eggshells. I'm sick of his routines and rituals and regime. Hes tired of my chaos, lack of employment and leaving glasses everywhere. Its really six of one half a dozen of the other. He probably has AS too. I have to live here buts its awful and stiffling. Been some massive arguments. Anyway nought can be done.



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12 May 2007, 7:24 am

My stepdad does not believe that things like autism, depression etc are real things. It is hard to live with people like that.
I have tried seeing from his point of view, but I really can't.
Try not to let it get you down too much.



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12 May 2007, 8:18 am

welcome to the real world, fellows!
back in the horse and buggy days of MY youth, they didn't even KNOW about AS or Autism and they were ALWAYS after me to 'smile' and 'stop that wiggling' and 'APPLY your self to your studies" and "we are so dissappointed in you!" and "you are so smart, why can't you just (fill in the blank)" and the dreaded "we told you ONCE, you should know how to do it by NOW" or "little girl, in this vale of tears, you get what you give and I am getting nothing from you!".

Then there was the spankings because I HAD to be annoying them on purpose. "I told you to and you are disobeying me!" whap, whap. "what are you staring at? are you a dummy? is that it? are you a dummy?" " no one will ever marry you if you don't SMILE at people"

then it got worse as I got older. I left as soon as I could, and then they tracked me down and (back then it was easy) had me put in a mental institution for being 'incorrigible' but the mental institution had no clue (1968) and let me 'run away' and I have been running ever since.

if you want some sort of relationship with your folks ( I didn't) then pick up your glasses, keep your room neater and start remembering rules around the house. Consider it what the REST of the world is going to be like. AS might be the CAUSE of our issues, but the REASON is we are not making ourselves over come it enough to live around other people in harmony.

Good luck, it was only the hardest thing I have ever had to do. . .(get along with other people)

Merle



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12 May 2007, 10:26 am

My parents were cool; dad was indifferent and ma was (and is) understanding beyond comprehension….

“’You just have to pull your socks up,’” and “’...get over it!’” being two favourites that those misguided headmasters constantly threw at me.

It didn’t help when I laughed each and every time: ‘”…uh, my socks are pulled up?’” and “’…over what exactly?’” being two favourite thoughts and words.



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12 May 2007, 10:31 am

my mom is the most understanding caring person ever
my brother gets it and tries hard-I see
my dad doesn't really get anything :roll: and keeps telling me "if only you obsessed with school or somethng" (God I hate it when he says that)
or he also seems to think the ADD pills I took as a child helped me :roll: I was hyper to be funny



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12 May 2007, 10:36 am

Things can be done to improve your situation. It simply may not be easy, comfortable, or convenient. Your solution depends on what you want out of it. If you want to improve your relationship, like sinsboldly said, at the least try to pick up glasses. While I lived alone (up until a few months ago) I would leave them all over the place. Once someone started living with me, any dishes started to irritate me...because they weren't mine.

(I know, a bit of a double standard, more of a control thing. My dishes are my fault, and my problem, so it is my decision on when to pick them up, as the consequences are entirely my fault if I don't. Now...dishes everywhere, pots not clean, I can't get water when I want because they haven't been cleaned, because the other guy doesn't need a drink yet, so he doesn't always see the point in cleaning up after himself, drives me crazy.)

Yeah, it could be a hassle, but some sacrifice could bring about some improvements elsewhere.

That being said, phrases I hate (some of which that were used by my father) were "figure it out," "get over it," "get yourself better," that kind of thing.



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12 May 2007, 11:03 am

I was about 15 years old when I came crying to my mother asking her to help me get help... I told her I was really depressed and had thought about suicide...she seemed to panic and just told me that depression is just something that's in the news, that I just needed to get a job.

She couldn't have been more wrong, but sometimes I wonder if it was for my benefit.

I've had the mindset to "just think about it---just use my mind, and find the logical answer" when i'm having my stupid mind problems.

The only drugs that have ever helped me have been THC and Marijuana. It's terrible.



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12 May 2007, 11:07 am

Racer_J wrote:
The only drugs that have ever helped me have been THC and Marijuana. It's terrible.


Wait, you can get the THC without the marijuana? This is relevant to my interests... :P

I've had similar experiences with that. Four anti-depressants and an anti-psychotic, none of them did any lasting good for me. Therapy...either I never found the "right fit," or there isn't one out there. Smoking... done with some level of thought involved and not to excess, and not simply to "get high," it has been beneficial in the past. Got me through a real rough week in April. Had to (and have to) get clean now for a drug test (assuming I can find a job, get through an interview, and be the "best" candidate...man that's going to be tough) but I've still considered smoking small amounts on occasion in the future if I need to and if I'm able to.

Catnip tea had some interesting effects. (Yeah, make a tea bag from a coffee filter and pour in catnip, just don't let your cat see if you have one, it might get mad at you for pinching from its stash... :P) Made me feel mellow and relaxed, though I haven't tried it enough and in enough of a controlled environment to be sure if it was much more than placebo, or possibly chemicals used to treat it. Need to find some organic stuff.



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12 May 2007, 11:11 am

THC tablets



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12 May 2007, 11:48 am

I was just kidding :lol: Weed's all that helps.

Aspie joke, of course it only made sense to me. (edit-sorry, not saying you guys arent aspie or anything. just the usual reaction I get to one of my jokes, that nobody gets it but me)

The catnip tea is a very compelling idea, since I have a big ol' baggie in snowpuff's (our cat) cabinet...



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12 May 2007, 11:51 am

that will kill you

I don't drink or do drugs-goes against everything I stand for



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12 May 2007, 12:01 pm

Also, I've heard of THC tablets, but only in "the cannabis companion," a book I bought at some store in the mall a while back. AMAZING reading if you have the time. But anyhow, the book talks about Marinol, the only legal cannabinoid in the united states.

Quote from the book...
"For those opposed to smoked marijuana, the biggest problem is finding a cannabis-based medicine that is as instantly "bioavailble." Marinol, the legal alternative, must be eaten and takes one to three hours to take effect--not much good for chemotherapy patients too nauseous to keep it down, or for migraine sufferers who need to stop an oncoming attack. It's also expensive, and shares the problems of eating marijuana--it's hard to predict whether a given dose will be enough to be effective, but not so much that it's incapacitating. In contrast, any moderately experienced pot-smoker can easily "titrate" the dose while toking."

Sorry for the quote, but I'm drunk and wishing I could replace those six shots with six bong hits.

I hope the feds don't read this (I know nothing about marijuana, feds! :roll: :wink: :wink: )



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12 May 2007, 12:06 pm

Kilroy wrote:
that will kill you

I don't drink or do drugs-goes against everything I stand for


I really do respect that. You have no idea...I felt the same way for a large chunk of my life, but have found marijuana allows me to relax, and most of all, allows me to sleep, which was my favorite thing about it when I started. If my sleep schedule wasn't already destroyed by working night shift (which has only been the last 4 months), I would feel all messed up without it; however, I don't really care when I fall asleep because of that midnight shift thing. I have 2 days off and might stay up all day today. What a mess I am...

-EDIT-and I know you're probably talking about the catnip when you say "that will kill you" but I strongly opposed drugs before weed...and I strongly oppose any other drugs I've done or others have done. Unfortunately I'm prone to drinking quite a bit.



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12 May 2007, 12:12 pm

...evidence for catnip being lethal please? I'd really like to have that source before I try making more tea...

As for smoking, yes, it has helped with migraines. Also with other things. Like smoking anything, it is bad for your lungs. That's a given. I accept that and understand that, and decide to smoke anyways.



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12 May 2007, 12:30 pm

I figure you're asking killroy about the lethal catnip, I was making up a cup now actually...i'll let you know if i die. It actually smells pretty good, and my cat wont leave me alone now.



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12 May 2007, 12:36 pm

and I also googled this...

says catnip ensures a good nights sleep. I'm getting sleepy...