The Cure For Depression: Just Be Positive!

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14 Apr 2017, 10:53 am

I don't know what my grandmother is thinking, but it's incredibly patronizing to hear her say "just be positive!" every time I'm not happy I get that she's worried about me and I shouldn't be so ungrateful, but I'd be doing much better mentally if she wasn't nagging me. If I could choose to be positive I wouldn't have depression. In fact, I was getting better until my friend killed herself. Now I'm "not allowed" to have depression again even though it's too late for that. She seems to think the problem is just too much negativity and that if I just surround myself with happier things I'll get over it. I already tried that. I listen to my favorite music, I draw, I write, I play with my rats, I go for long walks, I take Vitamin D, I have plushes and vinyl figures everywhere in my room, and I'm still not happy. Whenever something upsets me I can't talk about it with my family because they just tell me to be more positive and the problem will go away. They even suggested that, in a tiny dorm room, I take up yoga again because "it helped me when I was little." It's like they don't know that interests change. Now the words "positive" and "negative" leave a bad taste in my mouth. When I told them this, they screamed "Well what do you want me to say?!" In other words, "I don't know how to say anything else so I'm just gonna scream at you until the problem fixes itself!"



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14 Apr 2017, 2:00 pm

im sorry your going through alot i want you to know that your important you must keep moving forward regardless how hard it is we are only given one shot in life.



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14 Apr 2017, 2:18 pm

I have problems with depression too. Sometimes doing things I like does help. Other times I just have to fight through it. Sometimes I spend all of my spare time sleeping. There is no easy fix. Some people who have never dealt with it do not understand that. They do not understand that it can hit for no reason. As far as dealing with other people I just try to look as happy as I can so they don't ask me questions.



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14 Apr 2017, 2:29 pm

wowiexist wrote:
I have problems with depression too. Sometimes doing things I like does help. Other times I just have to fight through it. Sometimes I spend all of my spare time sleeping. There is no easy fix. Some people who have never dealt with it do not understand that. They do not understand that it can hit for no reason. As far as dealing with other people I just try to look as happy as I can so they don't ask me questions.


i play video games because it makes me happy. im taking medication in order to reduce the depression and it has helped. overall i do feel down but not as bad as before. you're important as well keep moving forward life is the most precious thing in the world



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14 Apr 2017, 3:02 pm

rats_and_cats wrote:
"Well what do you want me to say?!" In other words, "I don't know how to say anything else so I'm just gonna scream at you until the problem fixes itself!"
Any chance these might help with that?

6 Things You Should Say to Someone Who Has Depression
https://themighty.com/2015/08/6-things- ... epression/
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We’ve all seen the lists explaining what not to say to someone with depression; never say, “Cheer up!” or “Just snap out of it!”, for example, because doing so just makes things worse for the afflicted individual, and it becomes painfully obvious you don’t understand that depression isn’t just sadness, it’s a disease. So what should you say to someone having a severe depressive episode or an anxiety attack? Here’s a list of suggestions culled from my own near-lifelong battle with this insidious disease.


Depression is Not Just Sadness
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Published on Apr 12, 2017
A short film adaptation of Sarah Chau's article on The Mighty, explaining the differences between depression and sadness.


To the Person Who Thinks Depression Is a Choice
https://themighty.com/2016/09/when-peop ... -a-choice/
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Wouldn’t life be easy if we could just wake up and decide not to be sick?

In many situations, people with a mental illness compare their situation to that of a physical illness because many people do not understand. I’ve heard on many occasions that I’m “choosing to be depressed,” and I “should get a hold of myself.”

Why would anyone ever want to be depressed?

It’s such a horrible experience and can cause major interferences in your life. Would you want to wake up every morning and feel like you’re forcing yourself to hold on just one more day? Feeling like there is nothing left to live for? Always being tired, never feeling motivated to do anything, never seeing or talking to anyone and having body conscious issues and many other problems that accompany depression?

When you’re depressed or have a mental illness you feel like you’re in a battle against yourself. A lot of times, you feel like you’re in a battle with other people when they make jokes or comments or send you articles of “how to consciously stay happy.” You feel like no one wants you around, like you don’t belong.


What to Do When You Feel Powerless in Helping Your Loved One With Depression
https://themighty.com/2016/09/how-to-he ... e-episode/
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If you have watched a loved one go through a major depressive episode you know all too well that feeling of powerlessness – of wanting to help in some way but you don’t know how or what to do. Even worse, your loved one might not have anything to say to you when you ask what you can do to help. If this sounds all too familiar to you, here are a few ideas and things that worked for me (or that I wish my family had known) while I was in my worst state.


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14 Apr 2017, 5:18 pm

Thanks for the links, kidsandtrainsandcats. I think they might help.
Doing things I like does help a little bit, but I think right now my depression has to run its course.



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14 Apr 2017, 5:47 pm

I hope you will feel better soon.



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14 Apr 2017, 6:16 pm

rats_and_cats wrote:
...but I think right now my depression has to run its course.

Ooh, I don't think that's a good idea. Depression runs a nasty course if untreated.

Your family can't help you and they have told you as much. So they are frustrated and would rather ignore your problem. I strongly suggest talking to your doctor about how you feel. The doctor will know if medication or other treatments are appropriate. But don't let depression run its course, that's like letting diabetes go untreated to run its course. Depression is an illness and neither you nor your family can treat it.



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15 Apr 2017, 9:51 am

Sometimes, that kind of advice can backfire. Seeing the world through rose colored glasses doesn't make good common sense. Acknowledging there is a problem and getting the right kind of help is the main thing that can contribute to a better outcome.



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15 Apr 2017, 1:58 pm

When the only words of advice you hear is suck it up, you f!cking special snowflake of a buttercup from family and friends, I'm better off shutting myself off from the world and never coming back. In short, I gave up.



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15 Apr 2017, 6:53 pm

I've myself really struggled to stay happy, not saying that I've been depressed.

I know it's not a mere choice. You don't merely choose to be positive, and then wait for some "miraculous" response that actually makes you happy. And I personally don't see the point of trying hard to enjoy an activity you used to enjoy genuinely, just to make yourself "normal" again. That's like forcing yourself to be positive.

The point is to act. I believe that one should act not in accordance to what one is tempted/inclined to, but rather to what promotes life.


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15 Apr 2017, 11:27 pm

I had basically the same reaction from my teachers when I was cripplingly depressed in middle school. I told them they were doing the equivalent of telling a person with a broken leg to "just don't have a broken leg". Mental illness is difficult for people without it to understand. I took medicine and went to therapy, but things didn't really get better until I went to a better school and found a better therapist.



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16 Apr 2017, 12:21 am

rama wrote:
I've myself really struggled to stay happy, not saying that I've been depressed.

I know it's not a mere choice. You don't merely choose to be positive, and then wait for some "miraculous" response that actually makes you happy. And I personally don't see the point of trying hard to enjoy an activity you used to enjoy genuinely, just to make yourself "normal" again. That's like forcing yourself to be positive.

The point is to act. I believe that one should act not in accordance to what one is tempted/inclined to, but rather to what promotes life.


Words of wisdom here ...



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16 Apr 2017, 6:36 am

rama wrote:
The point is to act. I believe that one should act not in accordance to what one is tempted/inclined to, but rather to what promotes life.

One foot in front of another. Keep moving or drown. That sort of thing? I'm not sure I understand you rama.

What has promoting life got to do with depression? Are you talking about suicide?



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16 Apr 2017, 7:44 am

androbot01 wrote:
rama wrote:
The point is to act. I believe that one should act not in accordance to what one is tempted/inclined to, but rather to what promotes life.

One foot in front of another. Keep moving or drown. That sort of thing? I'm not sure I understand you rama.

What has promoting life got to do with depression? Are you talking about suicide?

Well, an uncertain something is still better than a certain nothing.

One could carry on living a lifestyle that basically or effectively denies life itself. So I'm not just talking of life as a function of organs, but also as a function of a mode of living. So no, I'm not talking about suicide. I'm talking about what makes life interesting or vitalizing.

All in all, I will be always wanting what affirms life, instead of resorting to desperation.
Hence my signature.


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16 Apr 2017, 7:57 am

rama wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
rama wrote:
The point is to act. I believe that one should act not in accordance to what one is tempted/inclined to, but rather to what promotes life.

One foot in front of another. Keep moving or drown. That sort of thing? I'm not sure I understand you rama.

What has promoting life got to do with depression? Are you talking about suicide?

Well, an uncertain something is still better than a certain nothing.

One could carry on living a lifestyle that basically or effectively denies life itself. So I'm not just talking of life as a function of organs, but also as a function of a mode of living. So no, I'm not talking about suicide. I'm talking about what makes life interesting or vitalizing.

All in all, I will be always wanting what affirms life, instead of resorting to desperation.
Hence my signature.


I am hearing you say that depression is a choice. I find that thinking ill-informed and condescending. Do you really think people choose to be unhappy? Why would someone chose this?

Your sentiment disgusts me.