I'm too mental and slow to be a teacher?

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nirrti_rachelle
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13 May 2007, 8:01 pm

If it weren't for me not being "disabled enough" to get on SSI, I would never leave the house again. I'm so sick of ignorant NTs I don't know what to do.

Today at work, the subject of me being in school to get my teacher's certification came up. I already have a BA in journalism and want to be a special education teacher, hence me going back to school a few months ago. I've, so far, made nothing but As and Bs in my classes. Another co-worker overheard us talking and asked what I was taking up. I tell him and he says, "You, a teacher? What the hell you gonna teach?"

The other co-worker said, "Would you want her teaching your kids?" The guy then said, "No, if I saw she was the teacher, we'd pull my little girl right out." The other person defends me saying, now you know she's smart. The guy then says he doesn't care. He doesn't want someone all mental and slow teaching his kids. :cry: :cry: :cry:


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13 May 2007, 8:14 pm

That man is living in the past. Don't pay any attention and follow that dream. Keep your eye on the prize! :)



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13 May 2007, 8:28 pm

And we have social skills problems?That is horrible,what an ignorant jerk.I think that AS people might have some advantages in working with special needs kids.Part of the problem with education is that the teacher follows a rigid format that just doesnt work for every child.Being able to "think out side the box" could be very advantagious in this area,helping you find eifferent approachs for the childs needs.


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13 May 2007, 8:31 pm

nirrti_rachelle wrote:
He doesn't want someone all mental and slow teaching his kids.


If someone tells you that again, then say you're glad you're mental (as opposed to, for instance, him, or a plant), and that you prefer to think before you act (unlike, for instance, him again).

You'd make a great special ed teacher, if you want to be!


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13 May 2007, 8:39 pm

I'm doing a good deal of teaching now,
and while I think that my social difficulties
get in the way, it's not too hard to simply
make light of them.

The only real worry that I'd have, is that
children would take advantage of you.
But, with a little bit of experience, you
should make a BETTER teacher than
an NAS would, simply because it's
more work to understand the emotions,
so you have a more rational take on
them.



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13 May 2007, 9:40 pm

nirrti_rachelle wrote:
If it weren't for me not being "disabled enough" to get on SSI, I would never leave the house again. I'm so sick of ignorant NTs I don't know what to do.

Today at work, the subject of me being in school to get my teacher's certification came up. I already have a BA in journalism and want to be a special education teacher, hence me going back to school a few months ago. I've, so far, made nothing but As and Bs in my classes. Another co-worker overheard us talking and asked what I was taking up. I tell him and he says, "You, a teacher? What the hell you gonna teach?"
The other co-worker said, "Would you want her teaching your kids?" The guy then said, "No, if I saw she was the teacher, we'd pull my little girl right out." The other person defends me saying, now you know she's smart. The guy then says he doesn't care. He doesn't want someone all mental and slow teaching his kids.


ok, ok, it looks like you need a change of attitude about your teaching technique! My good friend Chuck . . well let him tell it.


Chuck wrote:
My sister teaches at a nearby college. She has a PhD in psychology, and is the director of the department. She's autistic/Aspie/ADD. Everyone wants to take her classes because she's funny. She transposes her words, freezes up when her eyes meet any one else's, forgets where she was going mid-sentence, gets stuck trying to find a word...

She tells everyone on the first day that she's like this, she embraces it, and they will have to too. She says "Sometimes it will seem as if I don't know what I'm doing, and maybe I don't, so it will be up to you to figure that out for yourselves". She smiles and explains "If I get stuck searching for a word, you'll have to throw it out for me, or I won't be able to continue". So later, when she does get stuck they start throwing out random words: "Banana!" (she shakes her head no) "Swimming pool!" (no) "Chihuahua?" (no) "Long-legged Frenchman wearing a green beret going for stroll along Champs-Elysees? (she looks up into that student's eyes, freezing completely, the class laughs, she gets out her ping pong ball rifle and attacks everyone.....

She makes it all into a game and they love it, and have to pay attention to help her out.

Hope you learn to have fun with it.


just a suggestion.

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14 May 2007, 2:30 am

I say don't listen to him and go for it!



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14 May 2007, 5:28 am

Don't let them get you down. You've got great advice already. I just want to add that since you have the compassion to get into this kind of teaching, you're what the kids need! Best of luck.



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14 May 2007, 9:54 am

nirrti_rachelle wrote:
The guy then said, "No, if I saw she was the teacher, we'd pull my little girl right out." The other person defends me saying, now you know she's smart. The guy then says he doesn't care. He doesn't want someone all mental and slow teaching his kids. :cry: :cry: :cry:


So this guy.. Do you think the mental and slow could have been a reference to something other than AS? Being that you ARE black and you DO live in the South? I realize I don't know the guy, but I do have very negative perceptions of the South from my limited experiences there. Just a thought.



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14 May 2007, 10:12 am

Don't worry, people are stupid, so there's no need to listen to the majority of them :D



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14 May 2007, 12:18 pm

Thank you, guys. I've been really bummed out about people's attitude toward me. They only see my aspieness and not "me". I sometimes wonder if I'm human at all. The way they act, I might as well be another creature. Humans are allowed to be imperfect...but the same is never allowed for me.


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So this guy.. Do you think the mental and slow could have been a reference to something other than AS? Being that you ARE black and you DO live in the South? I realize I don't know the guy, but I do have very negative perceptions of the South from my limited experiences there. Just a thought.


Well, the guy is black, too and so are all of the employees where I work. Yes, I do think it has to do with being in the South where people aren't that big on those who are different. And it doesn't help that the prevailing attitude here is that of ignorance and it's almost considered "smart" to do stupid things here. Another thing is that I work in a restaurant with really ghetto acting people, which magnifies every single aspie trait ten-fold. Try working around a bunch of loud, obnoxious, extremely social people. You would go into silent mode very quickly.

I don't understand why everyone focuses on my AS traits yet ignore any intelligence I show at all. It's as if they look for reasons to validate their negative opinion of me and block out anything I do that shows otherwise. I have full confidence in my abilities with children. But what about the parents in my town, most of who think exactly like this guy? Am I going to have a bunch of kids being pulled out of my classroom as soon as the parents see me?


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14 May 2007, 1:07 pm

Well, I think that if you are closeted about your AS you could do well as a teacher. Everyone has their quirks - as long as you don't label your quirks I don't think that parents will have an automatic excuse to fear you as a teacher. Also, it depends on the job market where you live. In Utah there is a really severe teacher shortage, so any warm body with a teaching license is employable. Last of all, I think that your not acting all ghetto and loud is probably a plus if you want to be a teacher - what may seem uppity to those people at your work would be considered professional conduct for a teacher.

The only commend I'd have to make about teaching and aversion to loudness/disruption is that you'll have to be prepared for kids blurting out "Tomorrow is grandma's birthday!" in the middle of a lesson. I have a friend that says it drives her nuts when kids do that.



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14 May 2007, 7:16 pm

Maybe if the environment there is so hostile to who you are, what you want to do and how you want to live, you should consider living elsewhere?


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14 May 2007, 7:21 pm

I once had someone tell me that I lacked the intellectual ability to homeschool my kids... : ( ... it really struck to the core and I believed it for a long time. I doubted myself at every turn. My GPA was 3.75 from an ivy league school.



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14 May 2007, 8:31 pm

Nirrti_rachelle,

Don't you work at taco bell? Consider the source, babe, and move on.



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14 May 2007, 10:20 pm

People are so goddamn ignorant and cruel sometimes. Not just NTs...everyone...let's not fall into the trap of name-calling here.

I remember the days when I used to get 'ching chang chong!' and 'you spikka da eenglish?' thrown at me. Yes, I'm half chinese. Born in Australia, expect to get treated as an Australian, however! Hell, my English is more fluent than half those mongrels.

Oh and then there's the fat jokes. No thought of whether that would be hurtful, or whether the assumptions and jousts were actually TRUTHFUL or not. I was actually alright at sport if I tried. :lol:

Nowadays racial intolerance has moved onto sexual and neurodiversity intolerance. Anyone different in these arenas is battling the same issues we different-coloured people were battling a few years ago.

If there's one thing I've learned, it's that these people are FULL OF s**t. They LITERALLY don't know what they're talking about. No, I mean it. What do they know? For all we know their idea of neurodiversity = ret*d. In fact that's probably the case. Little do they know that Aspies are often MORE intelligent than they are. So what if Aspies aren't quite so up to speed socially. That's about the extent of it for so many out there in the community, working away and being generally successful contributors to society :)

Ignore them. Again, what do they know. You are the only one that knows your true potential...the rest of us know that said potential is enormous :)