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23 Jan 2018, 2:29 pm

I was getting SSI, then SSI AND SSDI, now just SSDI. I’m worried I’m going lose it.
If I make over $810 a month it’s considered trial work if I do this 9 months in 5 years they boot me? But I was always told if I made less then SGA which is 1,180 id be ok.
I make 700-900 a month. More so in holidays cause holiday pay. And I got a raise. So,e months I get 3 checks which puts more close to the sga or over it. I guess it’s cause two weeks is 14 days so 28 days but there’s 30-31 days a month so those extra days eventually add up into another pay check twice a year.

My social security office told me they do t deal with ssdi, so who the freak do I go to to deal with it? It’s social security disability insurance. Aren’t they social security? So they only do ssi? Makes no sense.
I need to talk to someone about the trial work and my income, I’d hate to tell work I can only work 3 days instead of the 4 I can handle. But $900 a month isn’t enough to survive off which th government agrees as they don’t consider anything less then 1,180 substantial employment. Seriously they think $800 is enough to live off of? I was getting ssi and they’d take half. Leaving me with $25 for buss,$80 for food a month and $40 for supplies. If I lose ssdi I won’t be able to afford any of those after bills.
I just don’t get why you have to earn more then 1,180 a month to be substantial but $800 is considered a trial work month.
Maybe I never should tried to find part time work.
I dont know who to call. As my google searches say the ssa office handles both, but the office tells me they don’t handle ssdi only ssi. I likely owe over payments to ssdi. When I was on ssi if they sent me over $750 I’d have to pay it back. Last month ssdi sent me like 500 with my work makes $1000. So over paid me by like 177 which I have but i dont know who to take it to as ssa office doesn’t do ssdi. Oh but I still had backpaymente for ssi, which now since I, not getting they haven’t been able to take from my payments like planned, they never told me I wasn’t getting ssi until I went in, so I need to figure how to pay that, but if ssdi is taking back payments I can’t afford to do both . This is a big mess. Stressing me out.



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24 Jan 2018, 2:58 am

I have been getting SSDI for 7 years and been working part time for seven years. I never went above and just tell your boss you can only work part time because you are on SSDI and you ca't go over time.

i don't understand the work trial period and never had but occasionally I will get a letter from them saying they have determined I am not able to work normal hours or keep up the hours whatever they say in their letter. Also every year they raise how much you can make a month. Also tell your boss to not give you any raises that would make you earn above a certain amount.

Can you call your family for help so you can pay back SSI? I know this is probably embarrassing but that is what families are for. if you need money, it doesn't hurt to ask for it.


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24 Jan 2018, 3:33 am

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I have been getting SSDI for 7 years and been working part time for seven years. I never went above and just tell your boss you can only work part time because you are on SSDI and you ca't go over time.

i don't understand the work trial period and never had but occasionally I will get a letter from them saying they have determined I am not able to work normal hours or keep up the hours whatever they say in their letter. Also every year they raise how much you can make a month. Also tell your boss to not give you any raises that would make you earn above a certain amount.

Can you call your family for help so you can pay back SSI? I know this is probably embarrassing but that is what families are for. if you need money, it doesn't hurt to ask for it.

Do you make less then $800?
I’m working 4 days a week for 5 hours a day, so little over 20 hours. Currently I’m working 3 days. Maybe I’ll have to ask to stay at 3 :( but that’ll make it more likely I’ll get fired, and still won’t solve those two months a year I get 3 checks. Those 2 months will always be over $1180.

I get a 3% raise every year, Corp policy for all employees. I make $11. Min wage is is currently 10.25 but increase .50 every year. Social security must use federal wage. It’ll be impossible to work and be on ssdi in Oregon in few years.

Work trial is any 9 months in 5 years thst you make over $810. I got s letter yesterday that says I ended my work trial period :( which means any month I make over $1180 I’ll be kicked off. So March. So I might have to quit my job after fighting so hard to keep it. And soon :(

Ssi just wants payments. Any payments, but if I quote my job thst become impossible . I hate the government why do they have to over complicate everything.



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24 Jan 2018, 3:37 am

Goggle and the ssa site are freaking useless. Everything is either about how to calculate how much benifit s your get or how working effects ssi. Nothing about how it effects ssdi besides if you go over the sga which is 1180 whole $10 more then last year.
If I lose ssdi I’ll have. To kill my self. I can’t work full time and my below part time job can’t pay my bills :cry:
It’s another gov catch 22 you make too much to be in aid but not enough to live without aid. It’s why I have so little for food and can’t get food stamps. When I was not working I got 180 for food stamps, part tim min wage meant I got $0.



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24 Jan 2018, 3:45 am

I don't really know anything about that, but I know how frustrating it can be trying to deal with these kinds of things, you really just have to try and be patient and not stress too much, but that is hard...I even struggle to do that, like last year they cut my payment by half which made it pretty hard to pay rent so I finally got that cleared up to get the full amount, but now I am worried they might get another mix up and cut it again, even though now I am paying even more rent and utilities since me and my boyfriend got a new apartment. But yeah even when you do address it it, seems it takes them months to resolve the situation. So unfortunately don't have any advice but I know how sh***y it is dealing with these kinds of things....also doesn't help that the human resources office is located in such a place I can take a lightrail train most of the way there and then still have a mile walk to get there. You'd think they could have a shuttle from the courthouse building to the human resources office since they are rather far apart, but no you just have to walk a mile from the courthouse to get to the human resources office.


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24 Jan 2018, 10:40 am

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I have been getting SSDI for 7 years and been working part time for seven years. I never went above and just tell your boss you can only work part time because you are on SSDI and you ca't go over time.

i don't understand the work trial period and never had but occasionally I will get a letter from them saying they have determined I am not able to work normal hours or keep up the hours whatever they say in their letter. Also every year they raise how much you can make a month. Also tell your boss to not give you any raises that would make you earn above a certain amount.

Can you call your family for help so you can pay back SSI? I know this is probably embarrassing but that is what families are for. if you need money, it doesn't hurt to ask for it.

Do you make less then $800?
I’m working 4 days a week for 5 hours a day, so little over 20 hours. Currently I’m working 3 days. Maybe I’ll have to ask to stay at 3 :( but that’ll make it more likely I’ll get fired, and still won’t solve those two months a year I get 3 checks. Those 2 months will always be over $1180.

I get a 3% raise every year, Corp policy for all employees. I make $11. Min wage is is currently 10.25 but increase .50 every year. Social security must use federal wage. It’ll be impossible to work and be on ssdi in Oregon in few years.

Work trial is any 9 months in 5 years thst you make over $810. I got s letter yesterday that says I ended my work trial period :( which means any month I make over $1180 I’ll be kicked off. So March. So I might have to quit my job after fighting so hard to keep it. And soon :(

Ssi just wants payments. Any payments, but if I quote my job thst become impossible . I hate the government why do they have to over complicate everything.



I make more than $800 on part time. My work just reports my wages to them and I don't have to do anything. If I stopped working for them, I would have to report my loss of employment to them and also report my employment if I got another job or got other earnings. You are supposed to report money you borrow too but that is dumb. I don't borrow money 'cause I don't need to.

Oh you live in Oregon too?

I work 5 days a week four hours a day and make $14.50 an hour. Our wages are high here and so is minimum wage.


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24 Jan 2018, 2:47 pm

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I have been getting SSDI for 7 years and been working part time for seven years. I never went above and just tell your boss you can only work part time because you are on SSDI and you ca't go over time.

i don't understand the work trial period and never had but occasionally I will get a letter from them saying they have determined I am not able to work normal hours or keep up the hours whatever they say in their letter. Also every year they raise how much you can make a month. Also tell your boss to not give you any raises that would make you earn above a certain amount.

Can you call your family for help so you can pay back SSI? I know this is probably embarrassing but that is what families are for. if you need money, it doesn't hurt to ask for it.

Do you make less then $800?
I’m working 4 days a week for 5 hours a day, so little over 20 hours. Currently I’m working 3 days. Maybe I’ll have to ask to stay at 3 :( but that’ll make it more likely I’ll get fired, and still won’t solve those two months a year I get 3 checks. Those 2 months will always be over $1180.

I get a 3% raise every year, Corp policy for all employees. I make $11. Min wage is is currently 10.25 but increase .50 every year. Social security must use federal wage. It’ll be impossible to work and be on ssdi in Oregon in few years.

Work trial is any 9 months in 5 years thst you make over $810. I got s letter yesterday that says I ended my work trial period :( which means any month I make over $1180 I’ll be kicked off. So March. So I might have to quit my job after fighting so hard to keep it. And soon :(

Ssi just wants payments. Any payments, but if I quote my job thst become impossible . I hate the government why do they have to over complicate everything.



I make more than $800 on part time. My work just reports my wages to them and I don't have to do anything. If I stopped working for them, I would have to report my loss of employment to them and also report my employment if I got another job or got other earnings. You are supposed to report money you borrow too but that is dumb. I don't borrow money 'cause I don't need to.

Oh you live in Oregon too?

I work 5 days a week four hours a day and make $14.50 an hour. Our wages are high here and so is minimum wage.


If you work every week then your $20 from hitting sga and being kicked off :s if you make over 1180 you have to report it and then you get two more months and you done. Unless you drop below it again. I read you don’t have to report non earned income with ssdi. So like money from investments and stuff, and there’s no saving limit. Unlike with ssi. I don’t borrow money either. People borrow from me sometimes but rarely pay me back.

Yeah I live in Oregon. Your in Portland right if I remember.

I wish the ssa took state min wage and state sga isn’t effect instead of federal. Federal min wage is 7.25 which wouldn’t cut it here.



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24 Jan 2018, 3:37 pm

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I don't really know anything about that, but I know how frustrating it can be trying to deal with these kinds of things, you really just have to try and be patient and not stress too much, but that is hard...I even struggle to do that, like last year they cut my payment by half which made it pretty hard to pay rent so I finally got that cleared up to get the full amount, but now I am worried they might get another mix up and cut it again, even though now I am paying even more rent and utilities since me and my boyfriend got a new apartment. But yeah even when you do address it it, seems it takes them months to resolve the situation. So unfortunately don't have any advice but I know how sh***y it is dealing with these kinds of things....also doesn't help that the human resources office is located in such a place I can take a lightrail train most of the way there and then still have a mile walk to get there. You'd think they could have a shuttle from the courthouse building to the human resources office since they are rather far apart, but no you just have to walk a mile from the courthouse to get to the human resources office.

Thanks sweet leaf.
Everything here is so spread out. Miles apart. Housing is way over there, then ssa is way over there, and disability services is down town. They should have just had a government area.

So I guess my ssdi checks aren’t reduced for working, so the money I’ve been getting xtra isn’t over payments, so first I was like yay more food money and maybe I could get haircuts. But nope I forgot about housing, now their raise our rent to account for the extra 170 a month. And 30-50 of that has to go to ssi. But they won’t care. So $80 food s month it is :( anytime life seems to get better government always like no no no yiu can’t Improve your situation.

Basing it off this I got from Oregon site. Benefit check is all or nothing, based on whether countable earnings are above or below Substantial Gainful Activity-SGA, $1,170/month



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26 Jan 2018, 6:48 am

Some of your post is confusing, but I get the main point of it. Sounds like a pita to deal with. Hopefully you find the right office to call for info and get answers to your questions.

I bet your employer would accommodate you. You might not have to only work 3 days/week. You might be able to just take one or two shifts off per month instead of one less per week - whatever work out so that you're still earning the max you're allowed to before losing other income. Anyways, if your bosses aren't total jerks they'll be understanding and help by scheduling you for one or two fewer shifts per month if you can't earn that extra income. Same goes for those bonus cheque months - figure out when they are, and if necessary, take a week off in the previous pay period. Or just allow those to be some of the only months where you go over. That's probaby why they allow x# of months over y period of time where you're allowed to go over - they know there are a couple 3 cheque months per year.

Your assistance rates aren't ultra clearly posted, but from what I gather you get around $1000/month in assistance + earn another ~$800/month by working - so around $1800usd. Is that correct? If so, that's not all that much lower than I earn working full time (Approx $2100cdn after taxes - so you make more than I do after accounting for the exchange rate, before over time & weekend work.) & my transportation expenses are considerably more expensive. My current income is the starting wage for my job, though, and will increase over time. But just for comparison's sake, with the expenses I have if I don't work overtime or a second job on weekends then I have to dip into savings to pay for food. Different situation, not exactly apples to apples, but just saying.. money's tight for a lot of peoples' current cashflow situations. Mine is by choice, though. Short term low wage for a higher wage in the long run.

Another thing I wanted to point out for your information and comparison's sake is that your assistance rates & rules sound quite generous compared to here. We have the least affordable housing prices in North America - rent's areyou through the stratosphere.. yet you know what people are eligible for here in Canadian dollars?

Income Assistance (Welfare)

Up to $710cdn/month for a single person & you're allowed to earn up to $400cdn/mo before payments are reduced.
Up to $977.22 for a couple & can earn up to $600/mo for families with children.
Up to $1201.06 for a couple with two kids & can earn up to $700/mo

On Disability

$1133cdn/mo, but can earn per YEAR:

$12,000 for a single person with the Persons with Disabilities designation
$14,400 for a family with two adults where only one person has the Persons with Disabilities designation
$24,000 for a family where both adults have the Persons with Disabilities designation

How stupid is that? People on disability are supposed to not be capable of working much, if at all, yet they're allowed to earn the most before their benefits are reduced! I guess the logic is that more able people will seek full time work and get off of welfare.. but the opposite is true - so many people stay on welfare because they can't get full time work (they're not fully capable sometimes, but not disabled enough to qualify for disability payments) and so get stuck in the cycle of being on welfare and not being able to afford to take on a bit more work here and there because the moment they do they start losing the benefits they depend on for survival. Ridiculous system. It shouldn't penalize people into wanting to stay on welfare IF they can work their way off of it! Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Overall it sounds like you've got a pretty good deal where you live. Could be worse.. you could be on regular welfare here where rents are much higher. I'm sure you're not exactly living a champagne lifestyle, but it sounds like you're at least staying afloat.


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26 Jan 2018, 11:54 pm

Nope.
I get $500 from ssdi. I make 700-900 from work.
Before on ssi I was getting $750 but it’d get reduced, so for every $2 I’d make I’d get $1 less of ssi, after $85. So if I got 900 it’d be $900-85=$815/2=$407. So I’d only get $342.5 that month from ssi. Minus $30for back payments. That’s gross mind you. I’d make $630 post tax + 312.5 from ssi, so my actual income is only $942.5
Where as a lot of other people make thst in one week. A teenage girl I play with online made more then I make in two weeks in one day.
Bunch of people make 1,200 a week. Ssdi is really confusing i dont know how it works I’d been thinking it works like ssi, so I’d been putting money back as I thought it was overpayments. As I shouldn’t have been getting $500 but they transferred me fully t ssdi. Someone on Sadie could get $4000 and still make 1,180 depending on how many work credits they have. Usually it’s older people or people collecting spouse or family benifits cause the person died. I dont know how I got enough work credits to get any ssdi o.O I haven’t wirk e much. To get one credit you have to make $5,000 beyond thst i dont know how it works which is why I need to talk to them.

My employer doesn’t know I’m on disability. I’d like to keep it that way. They’re conservatives they frown on people like me who they see as losers and thieves.
I imagine they just think I’m working another job like most the other people. It’s what other workers assume of me. Most people working there besides the mangers are college students, retired, this is their side job to get the discounts, or home wives of well off husbands to get husband a discount.


Australia apparently pays around 2,500 to their disabled people. I could live quite well off that if it was debt resistant.

As is the $750 isn’t much more then what someone in the 1940s got. They’ve rigged the cost of living so it doesn’t rise with inflation. So a ssi person today gets the same as a sssi person in the 40s and I think yo understand how much more $700 was worth back then. You’d get a oz of silver for $1 in the 80s now it cost $18. So just from the $80s to no inflation is.

We got $11raise last year. Before thst no raise. Ssa really should be $1500 if they didn’t rig the cola, so they could spend the ssa funds in the general funds to pay for other things, and now because of thst ssa is running out of money and they refuse to transfer money from the general funds leaving ssa with a bunch of iows from congress for 50 years of theft.



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27 Jan 2018, 2:56 am

It’s very common here that people on disability or welfare etc will work part time odd jobs for cash. There’s a fair bit of cash work available here in things like general labour and cleaning as well as various construction jobs/landscaping/cutting grass, loading moving trucks etc.

And then there are those on gov’t assistance who supplement their income selling drugs/alcohol etc but I wouldn’t recommend it to you lol. There are still less illegal things people do, like collecting cans - apparently a really hard working can collector can make up to $200/day cash in the city. That’s pretty damned good money. Most would be lucky to make half that, but even that’s pretty damn good.

Are there cash jobs you could do “off the books,” to make a bit of extra money?


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It’s very common here that people on disability or welfare etc will work part time odd jobs for cash. There’s a fair bit of cash work available here in things like general labour and cleaning as well as various construction jobs/landscaping/cutting grass, loading moving trucks etc.

And then there are those on gov’t assistance who supplement their income selling drugs/alcohol etc but I wouldn’t recommend it to you lol. There are still less illegal things people do, like collecting cans - apparently a really hard working can collector can make up to $200/day cash in the city. That’s pretty damned good money. Most would be lucky to make half that, but even that’s pretty damn good.

Are there cash jobs you could do “off the books,” to make a bit of extra money?



You mean do all the things conservative claim people on welfare do and why it should be defunded and shut down?

I can’t do physical labor jobs.

He couldn’t here lol. You’re only allowed to turn in $10 and cans at a time.



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Why can’t you do physical labour jobs? :?


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Why can’t you do physical labour jobs? :?

I have a bad back for one, then I’m not strong either and lastly I’m a germaphobe. So I cant stand getting dirty or touching disgusting stuff, I can’t touch dogs for example.
I did help a friend once with haying but I was too weak and slow. And it hurt my back a lot.



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As a friends friendmojce said, god really f**ked you over when he made you.

And it’s true. God hates me. I was meant to die at birth never meant to live. I have so many mental and Physical defects it’s ridiculous. :cry: and now it’s gotten worse.



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Why can’t you do physical labour jobs? :?

I have a bad back for one, then I’m not strong either and lastly I’m a germaphobe. So I cant stand getting dirty or touching disgusting stuff, I can’t touch dogs for example.
I did help a friend once with haying but I was too weak and slow. And it hurt my back a lot.


What do you mean by "bad back?" (genetic inherited disorder? injury? weak? etc)

Not strong = so get stronger over time.

Germophobes can still do work. Don't work a high trigger job or in a high trigger environment like a garbage dump or infectious disease testing lab lol.

So you tried haying once and learned you were to weak and slow. All that means is that you'll have to get stronger and faster over time so that you're able to better help/do other work, too. I'm crious if your back hurt from the work because of a genetic/skeletal disorder, or if it's from an injury, or if it's simply because your back isn't strong?

Anyways, my point with all of this is that over time people get stronger and are more capable of doing physical work.


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