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21 Mar 2018, 4:57 pm

The people in the horrible city of Portland are trying to push a ballot measure that would require everyone to turn in their “assault weapons”(simi auto guns) and any magazines over 10 rounds within 120 days of it passing. Anyone who doesn’t is a felon. So I’ll have to hand over all my guns but 1-2 or be a felony thousands of dollars of my objects to be deostryed so I’m just out thousands and left defenseless or I become a felon and have the swat team come to my house an die in blaz of gun fire. :cry:

But they not after our guns lies lies lies.



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21 Mar 2018, 5:09 pm

Magazines over one round? Is there a legal definition of “assualt weapon”? Does it apply to all types of semi-automatic long guns?



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21 Mar 2018, 5:12 pm

Do they compensate you? It seems obscene the government can take your property without compensating you.



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21 Mar 2018, 5:34 pm

sly279 wrote:
The people in the horrible city of Portland are trying to push a ballot measure that would require everyone to turn in their “assault weapons”(simi auto guns) and any magazines over 1 rounds within 120 days of it passing. Anyone who doesn’t is a felon. So I’ll have to hand over all my guns but 1-2 or be a felony thousands of dollars of my objects to be deostryed so I’m just out thousands and left defenseless or I become a felon and have the swat team come to my house an die in blaz of gun fire. :cry:

But they not after our guns lies lies lies.


Why do you need these guns sly? I have a shotgun only because I have worked in bear country in the past.


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21 Mar 2018, 6:30 pm

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Do they compensate you? It seems obscene the government can take your property without compensating you.

Tech they can’t take anything legal before the law but they don’t care so no their won’t be any compensation for the thousands in guns I’ve slowly managed to get over my life.



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21 Mar 2018, 6:35 pm

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Magazines over one round? Is there a legal definition of “assualt weapon”? Does it apply to all types of semi-automatic long guns?


10 rounds. No it’s a made up term by anti gun people. There’s never been a legal definition before they made it up and it Varies state to state and changes every year in those states, it means whatever they want it to. In this case any simiauto gun, rifle, shotgun, pistol, 22lr that can hold more then 10 rds.

They also requiring any magazine over 10 rounds turned in the school shooter used 10 round mags not standard mags.
I have two or 3 guns that aren’t simiauto, most guns made in the last 100 years have been simi auto.



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21 Mar 2018, 6:59 pm

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The people in the horrible city of Portland are trying to push a ballot measure that would require everyone to turn in their “assault weapons”(simi auto guns) and any magazines over 1 rounds within 120 days of it passing. Anyone who doesn’t is a felon. So I’ll have to hand over all my guns but 1-2 or be a felony thousands of dollars of my objects to be deostryed so I’m just out thousands and left defenseless or I become a felon and have the swat team come to my house an die in blaz of gun fire. :cry:

But they not after our guns lies lies lies.


Why do you need these guns sly? I have a shotgun only because I have worked in bear country in the past.


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It’s a bill of rights not needs. We don’t need phones, computers, cars, electricity, tasty food, etc. should the government limit is to mud guys and a few loads of bread a day since that’s all we need. We should only live to serve the elite, next step will be anyone who doesn’t live to serve the elite (aspies,disabled, unwanted people) should be sent to communities(camps) even today people support sterilization of people like us and aborting any babies like us. Same people are behind the gun control push as as well as wanting to determine what foods we can’t have. No soda for yiu Bloomberg says it’s bad and he knows better what good for you. Listen to daddy Bloomberg he’s a billionaire so that makes he smarter then you.



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21 Mar 2018, 7:38 pm

Can you acquire a different style of gun instead? I'm sure it's only certain types of guns being banned, not every make and model.



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21 Mar 2018, 7:42 pm

sly279 wrote:
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Magazines over one round? Is there a legal definition of “assualt weapon”? Does it apply to all types of semi-automatic long guns?


10 rounds. No it’s a made up term by anti gun people. There’s never been a legal definition before they made it up and it Varies state to state and changes every year in those states, it means whatever they want it to. In this case any simiauto gun, rifle, shotgun, pistol, 22lr that can hold more then 10 rds.

They also requiring any magazine over 10 rounds turned in the school shooter used 10 round mags not standard mags.
I have two or 3 guns that aren’t simiauto, most guns made in the last 100 years have been simi auto.

Thanks for the info. We have the 10 round magazine law here in Canada. I don’t think I’ve handled a semi-auto. Just your basic single shot rifle or over unders.



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21 Mar 2018, 7:54 pm

While AW is a made up term, it definitely has a definition and I don't think most semi-auto guns would meet the definition which other than the magazine limit refers to rifles with features like threaded barrels, collapsable stocks, and pistol grips.

I don't see how banning those things serves any purpose as most of the features don't really affect how lethal it is other than the magazine limit and even that isn't really going to slow someone down all that much (it takes a second or 2 to switch a magazine out).

Anyway, as far as defense goes, you're statistically more likely to be hurt if you have guns than if you don't.


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21 Mar 2018, 7:57 pm

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Can you acquire a different style of gun instead? I'm sure it's only certain types of guns being banned, not every make and model.

I can’t afford guns anymore. And revolvers which are like the only ones not banned cost a lot , are high powered and have lots of recoil.

It basically bans any gun made in the last 100 years or so. She we can have revolvers and level actions which are pricy guns much more suited for killing bears.



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21 Mar 2018, 7:59 pm

AnneOleson wrote:
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Magazines over one round? Is there a legal definition of “assualt weapon”? Does it apply to all types of semi-automatic long guns?


10 rounds. No it’s a made up term by anti gun people. There’s never been a legal definition before they made it up and it Varies state to state and changes every year in those states, it means whatever they want it to. In this case any simiauto gun, rifle, shotgun, pistol, 22lr that can hold more then 10 rds.

They also requiring any magazine over 10 rounds turned in the school shooter used 10 round mags not standard mags.
I have two or 3 guns that aren’t simiauto, most guns made in the last 100 years have been simi auto.

Thanks for the info. We have the 10 round magazine law here in Canada. I don’t think I’ve handled a semi-auto. Just your basic single shot rifle or over unders.

You actually have a 5 rd mag law. Canada has plenty of simi autos though you all can even have guns we can’t in the USA. Such as the vs58 since it’s cinsidered a short barreled rifle here.



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21 Mar 2018, 8:08 pm

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While AW is a made up term, it definitely has a definition and I don't think most semi-auto guns would meet the definition which other than the magazine limit refers to rifles with features like threaded barrels, collapsable stocks, and pistol grips.

I don't see how banning those things serves any purpose as most of the features don't really affect how lethal it is other than the magazine limit and even that isn't really going to slow someone down all that much (it takes a second or 2 to switch a magazine out).

Anyway, as far as defense goes, you're statistically more likely to be hurt if you have guns than if you don't.


Unfortunately they stepping up their definition, one state is pushing a ban that says any simiauto that can take a magazine that’s holds 10 or more rounds is an assault weapon.

My States ban included 22lr guns with a fix mag too.
If a pistol has a threaded barrel it’s and assault weapon. If has a barral should so yiu don’t burn your hands holding it with two hands it’s and assault weapon, apparently they think rifles should only be held with one hand. If yiu can have you finger on the trigger while gripping the rifle it’s a asault weapon 0.o they don’t seem to know how rifles work. How’d you’d shoot it if yiu can’t hold it with your finger in the trigger or two handed?

The parkland shooter used 10 round mags and killed 17 people. He said they were easier to conceal. He purposely chose them over standar dmags due to their length. The Virginia tech shooter also used ten round mags. Magazine capacity doesn’t do anything. The navy shooter used s shotgun that holds up to 9 rounds,the Texas tower shooter used a bolt action that holds 4/5 rounds. The type of gun or its capacity doesn’t matter. They use ar 15 cause that’s the gun the media shows all the time and says it’s evil so of course when they go it to be famous they use the gun the media has made famousl. But it’s only used in half or less of the mass shootings. Pistols are used more often in mass shootings. But that doesn’t fit their agenda, neither do the cases where mass shootings were stopped by people with guns so they don’t cover them.

Cnn has my mom thinking that ar15 is full auto and would blow a big hole right through a deer.



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21 Mar 2018, 8:39 pm

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Anyway, as far as defense goes, you're statistically more likely to be hurt if you have guns than if you don't.
As a retired Master Sergeant with combat experience, I find your statement backwards.

I guess I would end up being a felon. I already have some buried.

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21 Mar 2018, 9:59 pm

If you have any object you’re statistically more likely to be hurt by it then if you didn’t. That doesn’t mane it’s likely you’ll every be hurt by it.
How many times have you be stabbed by the butter knifes you have? Cause your statistical more likely to be stabbed by one if you own one rhennif you don’t.



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21 Mar 2018, 10:07 pm

sly279 wrote:
AnneOleson wrote:
sly279 wrote:
AnneOleson wrote:
Magazines over one round? Is there a legal definition of “assualt weapon”? Does it apply to all types of semi-automatic long guns?


10 rounds. No it’s a made up term by anti gun people. There’s never been a legal definition before they made it up and it Varies state to state and changes every year in those states, it means whatever they want it to. In this case any simiauto gun, rifle, shotgun, pistol, 22lr that can hold more then 10 rds.

They also requiring any magazine over 10 rounds turned in the school shooter used 10 round mags not standard mags.
I have two or 3 guns that aren’t simiauto, most guns made in the last 100 years have been simi auto.

Thanks for the info. We have the 10 round magazine law here in Canada. I don’t think I’ve handled a semi-auto. Just your basic single shot rifle or over unders.

You actually have a 5 rd mag law. Canada has plenty of simi autos though you all can even have guns we can’t in the USA. Such as the vs58 since it’s cinsidered a short barreled rifle here.


I see that it was changed a few years ago, the difference being for centre fire and rim fire. (When l was working in a related field it was 10).