So then my social worker said ....

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I called a suicide line, also advertised as 'just talking if you want', and the police came and hauled me off to a hospital in an ambulance. An event like that gets around. My credibility as 'building a new life' is rather thin just now.

So on Dec.4 my social worker came and found me sick in bed and not getting up. Excitement and near-arrest does that to me. The SW & trainee came in and watched me. I'm glad to report that my cat screeched out of nowhere (another dimension?), landed right next to my head, and purred - curative to me and aggressive to them. The loudest, multi-directional rumble. Sorta like she knows she's a rescue and returned the favour.

They left but now SW wants to bring her Supervisor to admire me in my hovel. They want to put me a home, right? And once we're going to Supervisor level, they'll work their way up to Police level and I'll go to hell. I mean, a nursing home. Or whatever they come up with. She wanted to come Tuesday but I told her nobody visits until January.

I asked her what she wants me to do. What would make me an acceptable client? She says she knows but can't say. It has to come from me. It must be because I told her I faked NT for 30 years and can do it again. She wants me to expose my soul.

What should I do?

Calling a suicide line because of an advertisement quote, that is an aspie moment if I have ever heard of one. Something I could have done.



They just want to observe you a little more, I think you are getting a little ahead of yourself in thinking you will be in a nursing home in short order. I think you should explain the situation first though, that you called the help line under the advertising premise, not because you were suicidal. Fake NT if you must, fool the supervisor and get them off your back. If your primary goal is to keep your present housing situation I say do whatever it takes.

I'm pulling for you and hope the best.

I sense you are having a little paranoia and worst-case-scenario thinking. I agree with Richard, you got this. Just try to remain calm, explain your thinking about "just talking" on that suicide line, and do what you have to do to get these people off your back.

If you allow your thoughts to get jumbled, that will convince them that you shouldn't be on your own.

Oh, and if you can have the apartment neat and tidy - relatively speaking - that will probably help you.

Sounds like they just want to make sure you're not suicidal and can look after yourself. Everything revolves around liability. The fear of getting accused of neglect by not reading the signs and taking proper action and all that. I can't believe that happened to you. "Give us a call just to chat". What a crock.

I remember calling a local crisis line here that advertised they send plain clothes police officers and a mental health worker out to your home to talk and they come in an unmarked car. Of course that was a total lie and they arrived in a marked car and uniformed officers. They seemed unapologetic for explicitly lying on their website. A waste of 12 hours sitting in a s**t hole psych ward when I just needed someone to talk to. For this reason I only call anonymous crisis lines now or chat with crisis lines using a VPN so they can go f**k themselves if they want to bother and harass me.

I don't know how it is in Quebec but in Ontario even if you wanted a bed in a nursing home you would be waiting a million years to get into such a place due to a massive shortage of beds and long wait lists.

A 5150 involuntary psychiatric hold sometimes renders people ineligible for the military, police or firefighter

Someone told me that she got billed for the 5150

But that's in United States

When I went to a job interview for suicide hotline operator, the interviewer explicitly specified that every call must involve an entire list of questions about the Mandated Reporter



Where I live, there is a free drop in counseling clinic


But you might not have that option

This might be a bad idea, but maybe if you call from a pay phone, the call will be harder to trace (please research this first if you decide to do it).

I do not know if I can be of help but here goes. It might be prudent to appoint a Health Care Power of Attorney. Do it up officially and get the document notarized. You must pick someone you really, really trust. Perhaps a close relative. It is possible that the local government could make a case that you are not of a sound mind and in that case they might place you somewhere other than your home. But if you have a Power of Attorney set up, they may find it difficult to force you from your home. This is because you have given the Power of Attorney the ability to act in your behalf.

This seems like a good idea.

Emphasis on the “really, really trust.”

hello claradoon. im sorry to hear, that this situation is still getting to u. as to useful ideas, others here had given quite okay. those people just want to follow procedures, its not really wrong, but ofc it gets on ur nerves, which are thin enough. and (as i had written on the old thread) they really should have listened to u in the first place, yes. imperfections of that system (that are gross, and everywhere) are the reason i am keeping way away from it. hold on please! they should get thru their procedures and leave u alone.

Thanks, but not possible. I'm isolated. I would have to appoint a stranger.

Gotcha.
I would ask you but that would make it international law.

But is there such a thing as a talk line? There used to be. But in this day and age. the stakes are higher.
Stale comment: violence is rife.
There are so many signs that went ignored and proceeded to tragedy.
Even my psychologist has to turn me in if he thinks I'm suicidal.
But what really happened was that I spoke freely to a stranger who was young and would suicide if that was her life.
At least they didn't admit me. That would have been on my record forever.

I have been observed to exhaustion! I really don't want to be observed. Is SW observing me? I thought she was supposed to help me and she's forever reminding me that she does. I don't argue but I don't agree.

I don't think there's such a direct connection with the Hotline. Maybe it's a combination of that and her latest visit, when I couldn't get out of bed. I told her I was in a lot of pain. I asked her to call pharmacy and ask for Tylenol. She did. Then I asked her to leave. I was even waving bye-bye, eyes shut, as she phoned. Now she says that was very rude of me at a time when she was helping me.

Doesn't my situation start to sound like Ass-P?

Fool the supervisor? The last time I saw her, she offered dozens of helpers until I suggested that would make a lot of observers. SW was there; she laughed and said, "I told you she's sharp."

A 'little' paranoia? You are kind. How about gobs and gobs of paranoia. 'Worst case scenario thinking' - that's because I often get worst case. I worry about the balance of power - if I'm not on top, then be wary!

How to get these people off my back - I was thinking of getting rid of them altogether. I told her to wait till January.
Sometimes my thoughts are jumbled and there's nothing I can do about it. Maybe dementia looms. Remember I found my diabetic test kit in the freezer. And sometimes I have to wait for ordinary words to come to me.

Apartment neat and tidy? Argghhhh! I've been here 2 yrs and haven't finished unpacking. My idea of cleaning up is creating 5 big orange bags of sorted laundry, stagger to the bank in the freezing cold to get loonies, and come home to see that I have lost my stash of quarters. Laundry still there. Nobody would perceive heroics, just slobbery.

That's what it's so hard to make them see. Although what they see might be a nursing home.

Thank you for your suggestions. I really appreciate it. Nothing's free here. I've noticed there are less pay phones since we're all carrying a phone. But you're right, though that might be a bit rash on my part. I'm in Canada so I don't get 5150.

It's heartening to hear from you and your thoughts on my situation.