If there is no cure for mental illness?

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16 Jan 2019, 7:00 pm

Then why go on living? :(



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16 Jan 2019, 7:54 pm

Because mental illness could be treated.

There's no cure for the common cold, either.



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16 Jan 2019, 7:57 pm

There is no cure for stupidity, either. If stupidity was sufficient reason to commit suicide, the human species would be doomed.



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16 Jan 2019, 8:04 pm

Mental illness can be lived with, twiz.
Most can be greatly alleviated with the right treatment.
People do recover.
Don't give up.


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17 Jan 2019, 1:32 am

indeed cant well, separate u from ur condition. but can learn to control it. can develop adaptations that would well, make it easier for u. i am by no means bipolar OR borderline, but i have experienced splitting (mostly caused by ptsd spikes and\or autistic overstimulation) and learned to cope with it. takes its toll, but it works. the conditions we have are, indeed, part of us, but being part of us, they are ours to take on. after all, people with perfect mental health can also lack self control and be just... well, total waste of space. its hard work and hard choices, but u can have the upper hand over urself. dont give it up.


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17 Jan 2019, 9:53 am

There is no cure for many chronic conditions and people need to learn to live with them.
I was suicidal two weeks ago.
I rested.
Now I'm still tired but no more suicidal.
Do you know the spoon theory?
This is how people live with chronic conditions of any kind.


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17 Jan 2019, 10:55 am

f**k my life, magz, this is just... prescious. unreally prefect explanation. thank you so much for sharing.


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17 Jan 2019, 12:26 pm

Isn't there?

I had social anxiety for five years and now if I take my medicine I'm better. I mean yes, I do have to take it but I'm better ish.



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17 Jan 2019, 12:28 pm

that is the difference between cure and relief, TUF. cure means if something could take away ur social anxiety entirely and permanently. relief means, that it gets subsided. so ya there is no cure, but there are reliefs. and counting them spoons. (me and one of my friend, who has some health issues too, have taken to call it "minmaxing", as in game term. we are nerds, ya xd)


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17 Jan 2019, 12:48 pm

Do you guys think I tend to delve too deeply into fantasy to escape instead of embracing reality?

Reality sucks, but it is what it is. There's bad people everywhere who want to hurt us, there probably is no God or afterlife, and there really is no actual purpose to life except to stay alive as long as possible until you drop dead and lose everything that ever meant anything to you. In this world only ruthless monsters make it to the top and I am incapable of being a ruthless monster. I'm like a chicken living comfortably in a henhouse with false security until I get plucked, stuffed, and oven roasted by the world...



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17 Jan 2019, 1:14 pm

if u dont feel safe, then there is no false security. and ya u dont seem like chicken. the world has gone at me many times, ukno, and im still here, still rambling, still not roasted (even if quite a lot of my metaphorical feathers are missing). i am alive.


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17 Jan 2019, 1:46 pm

Mental illness gets better with treatment (if you're talking about depression and anxiety at least) therapy and medication made my anxiety and depression a lot better and made my tics disappear too.



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17 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm

I have Bipolar Disorder type one and I get mania and depression that can cause me to do some pretty abnormal things.

Maybe if I find a medicine that actually works it'll help.



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17 Jan 2019, 1:58 pm

i have cptsd that is so weaved in me, it cant really be separated. there is no magic pill. but there is somewhat exercise that helps. i do my own and it helps step by step. it is possible for u too.


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17 Jan 2019, 2:19 pm

Yeah I've learned that even with medication there are some aspects to bipolar disorder that can't be subdued. And your body can build a tolerance to the medication over time which causes it to be less effective. It sucks. :lol:



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17 Jan 2019, 2:26 pm

step 1 build self awareness. i know what is happening. i know the sighns of a coming PA, flip, meltdown etc. i know i need to hide/distract/use any other means i have to manage it.
step 1.5 having checks installed. am i in a nightmare or in reality? am i flipped/splitted? am i triggered?
step 2 actually learn to make it to safety/relief.
step 3 start working on reversing ur "bad" state. as in, un-splitting. that one is a real b***h, but when it works it so very works
step 4 firm ur control over issues. only achieved per winning steps 1-3 a number of times
step 5 well, u have more or less decent control. keep executing it.
takes a LOT of time, a LOT of secondguessing urself a FUCKLOAD of outside help too in my case. but it gets better when u do it. hope im not operating a black box here...


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sanity is a prison. insanity is doom. is there a third option, please?
beware the ire of the patient ones!
and if i walk away, who is gonna stay? i believe to make the world be a better place.