Is pushing against things an aspie trait?

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08 Apr 2019, 1:22 pm

Ever since I was 12, I had something to push against. Thing is it's always shifting. It's like I can't be happy and content to be in a set 'tribe'.

The main ones are...

1 choosing to be a Celtic fan at a Rangers school. I did it based on principle. A lot of the kids were getting into extreme xenophobia and bigotry. My dad heard me talking like that and told me about how our family struggled in the famine etc. I had to support Celtic after that, out of principle. Also, reading their history and things. And also, yes, glory hunting and other things.
2 choosing to be posh when I went to a chav school. I chose to emphasise my poshness, changed my accent so it sounded RP, called the other kids common, changed from being a left winger into a Tory. I did it because I wanted there to be a divide between me and the other kids who were getting into things like knife fighting and having their stomachs pumped because they drunk too much at parties.
3 choosing to come out as bi at Christian school. To be fair there were a lot of bisexuals there but it wound up the teachers. Knowing it wound up the teachers, I acted like a total stereotype of a lesbian. I'm butch anyway but it was all doc martens and flannel shirts...
4 choosing to be right wing at uni because I was surrounded by SJWs. I wasn't actually right wing. I just couldn't stand the atmosphere where nobody really asked questions so I decided to be the one to ask them.
5 choosing to act and dress dumb when I got my MA. I was having a brief flirtation with an Essex boy so because of him I chose to act like an Essex girl. (Americans just think, Valley girl). I'm smart and I didn't have to do that but I was so bored...
6 when I was in a place where they all read the Daily Mail and hated immigrants, I got really into my roots again. I even flirted with this Pavee boy who was there to learn literacy. I refused to let right wing bigoted comments go without me responding to them.
7 now I'm in a place I ought to love. Celtic town. University town with courses which are cheap. I do love it but I feel a pressure to act perfect and I'm just... not perfect. And to pretend everything is perfect when it isn't, I'm specifically leaving things out here as well.

Is this sort of pushing against everything and everywhere an aspie trait? How do I stop doing it? Should I stop?



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08 Apr 2019, 1:28 pm

no, i dont think it is an aspie trait. i push back when i am pushed. i hit some certain things when i cant hold it, the list stays about the same. i dont fight for the fight's sake. i definitely am an aspergerian. as to, should u stop or not, that decision can only be made by u. ukno, the society needs punks, too... a much vital role, and somebody has to fill it. so if its urs, go for it, i'd say


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08 Apr 2019, 1:31 pm

To be honest----sounds like plain old adolescent rebellion when you were in school. I knew a few people like that.

I really wasn't like that; I tried to conform too much--that led me to be the Pariahs' Pariah. Got me nowhere. But my nature is that I don't like to "rock the boat."

I believe your love for Celtic is enough for you not to feel like "pushing" this time.



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08 Apr 2019, 1:37 pm

sometimes boat needs to be rocked. sometimes it doesnt. and some people are predisposed to rock it anyways) nothing wrong with that, too ^^


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08 Apr 2019, 1:48 pm

Don't know about it being an "Aspie Trait" or not. I've always gone "against the grain" in some way. It helps that I do not like smoking, public drunkenness, loud music, and loutish people to begin with, so avoiding whatever they're interests are comes easy.



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09 Apr 2019, 1:02 pm

When I saw the title I thought she meant pushing literally :lol: I was going to post something about how it can be if you like the feeling of your body against the objects your pushing kinda like a stim thing maybe.

Fnord wrote:
Don't know about it being an "Aspie Trait" or not. I've always gone "against the grain" in some way. It helps that I do not like smoking, public drunkenness, loud music, and loutish people to begin with, so avoiding whatever they're interests are comes easy.
I think us Aspies tend to have a much harder time conforming but we don't necessarily want to fight/resist things & we tend not to want to stand out for the sake of standing out. Rather we are just being ourselves & we tend to go against the grain like you said Fnord cuz of the nature of who we are. That's how it is with me anyways.


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09 Apr 2019, 2:15 pm

I think aspies lie to ourselves less often. And lie to other people less often, even when it would help us to save face or avoid hurting feelings.

We ask questions of things.

That said, I think Kraftie is right as well.

What I love about Celtic, this sounds weird for a football club, is the foundation. The helping of the hungry and the welcoming of immigrants. The lack of sectarianism - despite being accused of it all the time (only sectarian Catholic team in Scotland was Hibs, and they were only that way for ten years in the 19th century when frankly prejudice was the norm). A club for all. The amount of charity work they do to this day with hungry people and disabled people etc. All my criticisms are when individuals (myself included) fall short of that or act in a self interested way. So in a way, Kraftie's thing about patriotism applies to my love of Celtic.

And to an extent, I have to allow myself leeway to be human. Even if mum says things like 'you children laze around doing nothing all day', I have a disability and the government won't let me work because of that. Nothing wrong with my fancying KT either, it's just my stepdad won't let me admire him as a footballer as well or as a human being :roll:

Basically I have to accept that nothing and nobody is perfect in this world. And maybe get a bit more involved in doing things around charity?